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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am evaluating the latest build of SPSS 22. So far, it seems to be back to the level of accessibility I had before they went JAVA crazy a few years ago. Of course the output is still inaccessible, but the GUI seems to be working well. In my initial evaluation, I was able to type data into to the data editor again. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Social-sciences-list [mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Godfrey, Jonathan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Blind Social Scientists List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Social-sciences-list] problems with R<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>The base installation of R is as accessible as stats software gets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>R commander is an add-on that uses a development toolkit that creates an inaccessible front end that overlays R.</span><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>It is really useful for sighted students who have used other stats software like SPSS or Minitab where pull down menus and dialogue boxes are the normal way of working. It does alos generate R code, but this code is not just basic R but includes commands specific tot he Rcmdr library.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>If you do choose to continue using R, then you will need to use R without the R commander add-on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>You may find a few useful things to help you on your way with R at <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://r-resources.massey.ac.nz">http://r-resources.massey.ac.nz</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I updated a couple of the pages there yesterday actually having created a few MP3 files with some of the basic things I done with R and a few screen reader and operating system combinations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>You might drop me a line with your experiences of R and SPSS at some stage. I am trying to keep a good handle on how blind people are getting on with statistics software.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>