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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=IT link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Vincent and Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I have an old version of SPSS, I never installed access bridge. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I found a lot of R resources and examples of sintax, in particular in medical or bio-medical sciences.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I need specific information about sintax, for example how to do compute variable using Mean function, or recode a variable into an other, in social science field.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>It’s not very easy to convert fron medical to social science. I need to study it!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I thank you very much.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Veronica<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Da:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> Social-sciences-list [mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>Per conto di </b>Vincent Martin<br><b>Inviato:</b> giovedì 14 novembre 2013 22:31<br><b>A:</b> 'Blind Social Scientists List'<br><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Social-sciences-list] SPSS 22<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I beta-tested earlier this summer and they seem to have gotten all the bugs I encountered fixed by release time. From what I have been told, this is a better implementation. The installation actually asks if you want JAWS access during the installation and checks to see if you have the right version of the Access bridge installed. I am unsure if it installs it if a person does not have it installed though. There were four things that I was supposed to do to insure speech compatibility, but I haven’t even done it yet. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Social-sciences-list [<a href="mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Godfrey, Jonathan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Blind Social Scientists List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Social-sciences-list] SPSS 22<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>Hello Vince,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>When you say back to the days before going Java crazy, do you mean we wouldn’t have to use the access bridge? Is this a move away from Java or just a superior implementation?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Social-sciences-list [<a href="mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vincent Martin<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 15 November 2013 10:05 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> 'Blind Social Scientists List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Social-sciences-list] problems with R<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I am evaluating the latest build of SPSS 22. So far, it seems to be back to the level of accessibility I had before they went JAVA crazy a few years ago. Of course the output is still inaccessible, but the GUI seems to be working well. In my initial evaluation, I was able to type data into to the data editor again. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Social-sciences-list [<a href="mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:social-sciences-list-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Godfrey, Jonathan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Blind Social Scientists List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Social-sciences-list] problems with R<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>The base installation of R is as accessible as stats software gets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='color:#1F497D'>R commander is an add-on that uses a development toolkit that creates an inaccessible front end that overlays R.</span><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>It is really useful for sighted students who have used other stats software like SPSS or Minitab where pull down menus and dialogue boxes are the normal way of working. It does alos generate R code, but this code is not just basic R but includes commands specific tot he Rcmdr library.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>If you do choose to continue using R, then you will need to use R without the R commander add-on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>You may find a few useful things to help you on your way with R at <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://r-resources.massey.ac.nz">http://r-resources.massey.ac.nz</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I updated a couple of the pages there yesterday actually having created a few MP3 files with some of the basic things I done with R and a few screen reader and operating system combinations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>You might drop me a line with your experiences of R and SPSS at some stage. I am trying to keep a good handle on how blind people are getting on with statistics software.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div>
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