[Sportsandrec] Voting problems lucas county

Wed Nov 5 03:12:17 UTC 2008

Roger,

I hope this experience didn't come as a surprise.
Consider that this process was not designed with anyone who isn't a 
white, male, sighted protestant, as far as I know.
It is only within the last say hundred years that anyone else was eve 
considered, and now, some may argue blinks are becoming realistic voters.
I myself still vote absentee. At 06:54 PM 11/4/2008, you wrote:
>As I brought in 2 visually impaired people to vote, I ran in to make
>sure the head phones were set up. Though people were kind, they
>apologized profusely for polling booth zero (the accessible booth) as
>it was not set up and able bodied people were voting away. One voter
>was standing on the head phone. The polling folks were mortified. I
>suggested quietly that this should have been set up per the manual
>that he showed me, the night before. Then a Barack Obama supporter
>came up and asked to vote for one of the guests I brought.
>
>The one individual was very upset of the situation and did not want
>someone vote for her. I had no idea what to do and was suggested to
>call the Board of Elections which I did.All in all, Lucas County was
>not sensitive to accessibility issues and we have a way to go in
>future years.
>
>
>On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:56 PM, Roger Acuna wrote:
>
>>Yes, poling places are old-school. I like absentee.  Lets save
>>millions, go melinium and do this voting stuff online!
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "annie Sawicki" <seahorse5 at mac.com>
>>To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
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>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:04 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Voting problems
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>>>In Lucas County, accessibility was not the area of thought. There
>>>is  help and one needs to call the Secretary of State immediately
>>>and  report the situation at the booth, not when when you leave.
>>>Able  bodied voters have been fiesty because it takes "too long."
>>>
>>>Annie
>>>On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:38 AM, Joe Shaw wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am proud to say it works well here in Nashville. I voted for
>>>>the  third time with the audible system and it was very smooth
>>>>and easy.  The only thing I am a bit ashamed of is that I early
>>>>voted as I   like to get out amongst them on election day. I
>>>>participated in  early voting out of respect for my two year
>>>>old's disdain for  outlandishly long lines. I dig the system though.
>>>>Happy voting!
>>>>Joe
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews"
>>>><dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:33 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Voting problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Carly, first of all, please watch your language.  Some people
>>>>>are  more easily offended then I.
>>>>>
>>>>>Secondly, different things are important to different people.
>>>>>I  have voted with an accessible machine, and it was not a
>>>>>hassle,  and even if it was, the powerful feelings brought on by
>>>>>being able  to vote privately and independently outweighed any
>>>>>potential hassle.
>>>>>
>>>>>David Andrews, List Owner
>>>>>
>>>>>At 07:19 PM 11/1/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>Sports and rec List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why go through all the hassle associated with the availability
>>>>>>of accessible voting machines, when the so-called Democratic
>>>>>>process didn't have us in mind, upon its conception, in the 1st
>>>>>>place?  Why not just vote absentee, and be done with it? The
>>>>>>poles are a  giant cluster fuck, anyway.
>>>>>>Why not just get someone you trust to fill in your ballot and
>>>>>>send it in, being unconcerned with the presence and
>>>>>>functionality  of voting machines?
>>>>>>I've already voted, and am unconcerned with the
>>>>>>materialization  of accommodations at the poles.
>>>>>>Carly:24 PM 11/1/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>>are there supposed to be talking voting machienes at every pole?
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Shaw"
>>>>>>><jrs3147 at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>To: <Nfbmidtnlist-request at nfbmidtn.org>; "Middle TN Chapter
>>>>>>>of  the National Federation for the Blind."
>>>>>>><nfbmidtnlist at nfbmidtn.org>
>>>>>>>Cc: <vendtalk-request at nfbnet.org>; "Tennessee Talk (NFB of
>>>>>>>Tennessee Discussion)" <tn-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Sports and
>>>>>>>Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>>>>>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:54 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [Sportsandrec] Voting problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dear Federationists,
>>>>>>>>Please do not forget our voting lifeline on Tuesday 4,
>>>>>>>>November. If problems persist in your polling presinct,
>>>>>>>>there  is help with the equipment from 7:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m.
>>>>>>>>If you  encounter difficulty pick up a phone and call 1-877- 
>>>>>>>>NFB-1940.  Technicians will be standing by. Call from your
>>>>>>>>place in line  at the moment of difficulty not after the fact.
>>>>>>>>Many people fought hard to gain this right for us to be able
>>>>>>>>to  vote as can every other American, exercise our right.
>>>>>>>>Thank you,
>>>>>>>>Joe Shaw
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