[Sportsandrec] (no subject)

Nefertiti Matos Olivares nefamphetamine at gmail.com
Wed Apr 8 10:05:58 UTC 2009


Manhattan’s UWS was my life for all my life until I moved out to
Williamsburg and I know all about everything in between. Help me help
you. Where in NYC do you live?

On 4/7/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree. It is actually a pretty fluid method once you get a hang of
> it. When you think about it, one arm should be out in front at all
> times unless you are swimming breast stroke or butterfly. I have made
> the one hand out in front all times work for back stroke too.
>
> On 4/7/09, James Fetter <jfetter at nd.edu> wrote:
>> In my experience, most swim instructors who are deemed good by everyone
>> else who takes lessons from them are also willing to work with blind
>> swimmers. The key, for people just learning how to swim, is finding
>> someone willing to get in the water and physically show him/her the
>> correct form and body position. I would be up front in asking potential
>> swim instructors if they are willing to do this. I hope this helps.
>> James
>>
>>
>> On 4/7/2009 6:51 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>> Aziza,
>>> I wonder the same thing.  I have not seen an inaccessible pool
>>> either.  I think he means the swimming instructor being conducive to
>>> instructing a blind person.  He was asking about swim lessons, not
>>> pool infrastructure.
>>> Ashley
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aziza C"
>>> <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] (no subject)
>>>
>>>
>>> May I ask what you mean by our needs. I am not sure I've ever seen a
>>> pool that is not accessible... Every pool is different I'll admit, and
>>> I apologize if I am misreading your question.
>>>
>>> On 4/7/09, The Guerra Show, with stephen Guerra
>>> <theguerrashow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Can you advise where have you looked?
>>>>
>>>> The Y up on 92nd might be a suitable setting!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William ODonnell
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:43 PM
>>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] (no subject)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone in the NYC area know where one can take swimming lessons
>>>> in a
>>>> setting conducive to our needs?
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Lilyth Berlin <nefamphetamine at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Lilyth Berlin <nefamphetamine at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] pilates
>>>>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 2:48 PM
>>>>> In my quest to lead a healthier
>>>>> existance, I learned about many forms
>>>>> of exercise, pilates being very high on my list. I found that,
>>>>> although I have some useful vision, a class setting was more stressful
>>>>> than anything else. Luckily, I happened to mention my interest to a
>>>>> good friend of mine. As it turned out, she had partnered with a
>>>>> pilates instructor here in NYC to make an hour-long pilates program
>>>>> some time ago. It is just perfect for the blind in that it’s
>>>>> completely accessible. If any one is interested, I’ve gotten
>>>>> permission to pass along her number so that you may speak to her
>>>>> directly. Feel free to contact me off-list and I’ll get you on your
>>>>> way.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/09, Jennifer Boylan <jaboylan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Ashley! I had an experience with pilates for
>>>>> a few months but it was
>>>>> > under ideal circumstances. One of the
>>>>> high-partial seniors at the blind
>>>>> > center had taken classes at the community
>>>>> college. She then returned and
>>>>> > had sessions with all interested twice a week for an
>>>>> hour at the blind
>>>>> > center. She knew the techniques and could
>>>>> explain them well. Also, we had
>>>>> > a sighted volunteer on hand to quickly show us the
>>>>> correct positioning if
>>>>> > the instructions weren't totally clear. After a
>>>>> time or two, we had the
>>>>> > movements memorized and could proceed smoothly.
>>>>> The class was geared
>>>>> > towards the elderly, not too fast or strenuous, but I
>>>>> felt I gained some
>>>>> > benefit from it. If you can't get an instructor
>>>>> to be more descriptive,
>>>>> > maybe someone else from the class would show you moves
>>>>> before or after the
>>>>> > session. Hope it works out for you--if not, I'm
>>>>> sure you'll find something
>>>>> > else great to try! Jennifer
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>>>>> > <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tell me about your experience with pilates.
>>>>> What is the pace of the
>>>>> >> class?
>>>>> >> What muscles are used and what is the
>>>>> purpose? I am refering to pilates
>>>>> >> mat exercises. You can do pilates on a
>>>>> device named the reformer. But
>>>>> >> that
>>>>> >> is different. What benefits did you get from
>>>>> class?
>>>>> >> How helpful was the instructor?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am considering taking it at my health
>>>>> club. They offer them as a part
>>>>> >> of
>>>>> >> the membership. They also offer private
>>>>> lessons for an additional fee.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The director of group classes raised concerns
>>>>> about my ability to grasp
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> do the exercises before they move on. She
>>>>> says pilates is precise and
>>>>> >> controlled and they do 6-10 reps of each
>>>>> exercise. and I will not have
>>>>> >> much
>>>>> >> time to figure out the move. She says the
>>>>> instructors will be of
>>>>> >> assistance
>>>>> >> but they have to be accessible to other
>>>>> participants and keep the class
>>>>> >> moving.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Do you think its doable without previous
>>>>> experience? I really don't want
>>>>> >> to get lost; its not worth my time. The
>>>>> director highly suggested I do
>>>>> >> private sessions first before the class. I
>>>>> am concerned too. Without the
>>>>> >> benefit of seeing the exercises, I do not know
>>>>> whether I'll understand
>>>>> >> what
>>>>> >> to do. I will ask them to explain it.
>>>>> But they cannot slow down the
>>>>> >> class
>>>>> >> for me.
>>>>> >> So I am wondering is this someone doubting my
>>>>> ability or is this real? I
>>>>> >> know that due to the visual nature and pace of
>>>>> some classes, they are
>>>>> >> difficult to follow. I don't know if this is
>>>>> one of them.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ashley
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Peace, love and empathy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nefertiti
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