[Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community

Sat Aug 11 00:20:34 UTC 2012

Hi, Ashley,

I have already said that multiple workouts in one day is a little, 
animal but it works for us. We don't want a family.
And, as others have said, one need not go to such lengths for 
achieving fitness. definitely not.:27 AM 8/10/2012, you wrote:
>Audrey,
>But some people like me made a point that you do not need multiple 
>workouts a day.
>I think some were arguing amount  just to be debating.
>Carley and a few people can do it and want to. But it is Not necessary to
>maintain a healthy fitness level for the average person.
>
>
>A good 30 minutes plus stretching which totals like 45 minutes
>is best. Going over the minimum recommendation is a good thing if 
>your body can handle it and you have some goal to attain.
>Kelly spelled out the minimum recommendation s from AHA and ACSM the best.
>
>Having a family is definitely limiting. I don't have one, but I've 
>talked to people that do. They would have to either take the kids with them or
>have someone watch them while going out to exercise. Its best not to 
>leave small kids alone as they could get hurt. So I think this is a 
>valid barrier to work around.
>
>Ashley
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Audrey Farnum
>Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:38 AM
>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>
>Yeah. I get that people have families, jobs, financial restraints,
>etc. I still think, if someone really wants to be healthier, then
>they'll find a way to do it. I'm not talkingabout people spending
>hours a day to become world class athletes. That's not realistic for
>the average person. I'm just talking about getting off the couch and
>making the choice to be more active or make better choices about what
>to eat. I have met few people who are genuinely "too busy" to do any
>kind of exercize. And I know a pair of 70 year olds who are more
>active and in better shape than most young people I know. Everyone has
>obstacles to fitness. It's a matter of deciding how to get around
>those obstacles. Using work, family etc to say you don't have time to
>be active still seems like excuses to me. I work full time. True, I
>don't have a family to worry about so it's easy for me to be selfish
>and go row in the evenings after work or spend my Saturdays on a long
>ride on the tandem. But when I can't fit those things in, I find other
>ways to do some kind of physical activity because it is important to
>me. If I have to get up an hour earlier to get in a workout on the
>erg, then so be it. If I have to skip a tv show, fine. It'll be on
>again eventually. I've torn up both my knees. The doc said no running,
>so I found activities that get around that particular limitation. I
>don't see why the average blind person who currently does nothing
>can't find a way to start doing something. I don't expect everyone to
>become an elite athlete. I'm not an elite athlete and I never will be.
>But I'm 50 pounds lighter than I used to be and my doctor has stopped
>threatening to put me on blood pressure and cholesterol medication
>because I stopped telling myself I was too blind or too busy to do
>anything about it. Everyone on this list already understands that diet
>and exercize are important. I think the original point of this thread
>was to figure out how to get your average couch potato in the blind
>community to make a lifestyle change. I don't think any comments on
>here have been intended to be hateful or personal attacks on anyone.
>I've seen some interesting ideas and it's encouraging to see the
>sudden flurry of activity on this list. I don't think any comments
>here should be taken personally. I think everyone here wants the same
>thing. We just have to figure out how we as the S&R Division can reach
>out to more blind people and get them to make the choice to be more
>active.
>
>Audrey
>
>On 8/10/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>I can usually squeeze in a couple of hours a day.  You have just got to
>>figure out how to squeezeit in.  You are looking for an average per week,
>>more of a balance.  Ashley,  you might be over training that one exercise.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
>>Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:06 AM
>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List; Sports and
>>Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>>
>>Good morning, Ashley,
>>
>>Doing two spin classes a day is definitely the exception to the rule of
>>spinning and not, by any means, the rule, for a truth that, most of us
>>indeed are employed and cannot afford the time and effort required to
>>invest
>>so much in cultivating physical, conditioning.  /9/2012, Ashley Bramlett
>>wrote:
>>>Carley,
>>>I wish you'd say things without profanity. Also, if you can and want to
>>>workout twice, then do so. But for me, one workout in school was
>>>enough. I had loads of reading to do and one spin class wore me out.
>>>As Bill said, exercise is important, but most people need only about
>>>45 minutes of consistent exercise to stay in shape. I think your
>>>willingness to do two sessions is the exception not the rule. If I did
>>>two workouts a day, it was only one spin class and the other was a
>>>lighter workout on my own; usually a brisk walk.
>>>Be glad you had the time and  stamina to do two a day.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>>>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:39 PM
>>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>>>
>>>Good morning, Robin,
>>>
>>>All those enumerated points not withstanding, you can't forget being
>>>disciplined such that we can jump up at 3:30 to 4:00, to get to the gym
>>>in time for a 6:30A.M class, prior to doing our day, and then being
>>>disciplined enough to drag our asses back for more in the evenings. And
>>>Bill, School happens to bfunction as our J.O.B, we are working for
>>>rehab in exchange for them giving us help necessary to prepare for
>>>entry into the work force. As such, when the semester begins at the end
>>>of this here moon, we will absolutely restrict our working out to one
>>>in the morn before class.
>>>Have an athletic day, Robin, and Bill!
>>>Car AM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>>>>Hello:
>>>>
>>>>What do you consider youth? Please explain. Do you consider someone,
>>>>who is 70 Plus years Old young?
>>>>
>>>>I also disagree that you are NOT able to incorporate a daily routine
>>>>of exercise because you WORK a Full Time Job & Raise a Family because
>>>>many of our comrades in Spin Class do just that.
>>>>It's just adjusting your schedule and sticking to it, which I admit is
>>>>DIFFICULT.
>>>>
>>>>As for normal responsibilities, everyone chooses whether or NOT to
>>>>raise a family, and just because Carly & I decide NOT to have children
>>>>shouldn't minimize our responsibilities.
>>>>
>>>>As for your KNEES hurting while spinning, I think you should have
>>>>someone adjust your Bike's Settings. your Knees should NOT be hurting.
>>>>It is my impression that you are supposed to FEEL the affects of
>>>>spinning in your Calves, thighs, & your core (abdominal region).
>>>>
>>>>Carly failed to mention that we also walk quite a bit before & after
>>>>our meals in addition to our WORKOUTS.  We decide to take STAIRS
>>>>instead of the ELEVATOR if at all possible. we also do NOT indulge as
>>>>much as you think primarily because we are on a budget, but when we
>>>>can we do.
>>>>
>>>>Don't HATE..
>>>>
>>>>At 06:25 AM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi Carley,
>>>>>You have the luxury of time and I am guessing youth as well.
>>>>>Virtually no one who works a full time job and or has a familey and
>>>>>normal responsabilitys has the time to do 2 to 3 hours of exercise a
>>>>>day. My knees hurt just hinking about 3 hrs of spinning.  Its always
>>>>>possable to create some time in ones life to get in a workout even if
>>>>>its just a quick half hour  a couple times a week.  And if you put
>>>>>enough into it thats all you need to stay in good shape.
>>>>>Bill Kociaba
>>>>>CRUISEONE
>>>>>Bill at Ycruise.com
>>>>>954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
>>>>>7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Carly Mihalakis"
>>>>><carlymih at comcast.net>
>>>>>To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>>>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:35 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind Community
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, LM,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Doing 2 1-hour or 90-minuit, spin classes per day, 1 in the morning,
>>>>>>followed by another in the afternoon or evening.
>>>>>>"Dieting" by default  is setting oneself up for eminent, failure.
>>>>>>I am happy to say I endulge in anything I want to eat, making sure
>>>>>>to get enough hard, aerobics that anything I chose to eat will not
>>>>>>make it to my waistline or otherwise. However, doing two classes per
>>>>>>day only works right now because it's summer, and we are off from
>>>>>>school. Next semester however, Robin and I only get one workout in
>>>>>>the morning save for times of vacation. You can be sure I will
>>>>>>adjust a calory intake, when the time is upon us.At
>>>>>>12:11 PM 8/8/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>So here's my problem ... I've done all the crash dieting for judo
>>>>>>>in order to cut down to a weight class or two and all of that has
>>>>>>>really screwed with my head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know junk food is bad. I know exercise is good for me and I would
>>>>>>>totally do more of it if the day had about an extra hour or two a day.
>>>>>>>But for someone who should drop about 20 pounds, the idea of "dieting"
>>>>>>>brings up some really emotional baggage. So what does one do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sometimes, picking up that fork and taking bites of an all you can
>>>>>>>eat dessert bar sounds great and you want to do it because 10, 15,
>>>>>>>years ago you were forced to eat 900 calories a day until you lost
>>>>>>>the weight your coaches told you to lose and you were told to go
>>>>>>>run 2 miles while your coach followed you in his car to make sure
>>>>>>>you ran them. I mean seriously, sometimes the whole concept of
>>>>>>>eating right makes me want to sit down with a bucket of Chunky Monkey.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 8/7/12, Roger Acuna <kearney125 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > I am reminded when I visit family for thanksgiving.  Its a
>>>>>>>junk food > free
>>>>>>> > for all!  Healthy trays are also part of this but I firstt go
>>>>>>>for > anything
>>>>>>> > chocolate.   Oh, another time at Dizney land, I ate at this
>>>>>>>place with > an
>>>>>>> > all-you -can-eat  dessert bar. Well, never mind the main course!
>>>>>>> > I litterally had a huge plate of mixed desserts with a huge
>>>>>>>glass of > milk.
>>>>>>> > The happiest place on earth!  Yes, healthy eating is really a
>>>>>>>conscious life
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > style wich I mostly have but I go off the chocolate deep end
>>>>>>>every now > and
>>>>>>> > then.  Moderation, modderation, modderation!
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> > From: <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>>>>>> > To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
>>>>>>> > <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:05 AM
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Statistics on Fitness in Blind
>>>>>>> > Community
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> Hello Roger,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Yes, Americans are killing themselves with their fork.  All
>>>>>>>it takes >> is
>>>>>>> >> asking yourself if you really want that chip or do you
>>>>>>>really want >> to
>>>>>>> >> loose
>>>>>>> >> weight.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> My problem is will power.  I had been losing weight and
>>>>>>>doing well >> and
>>>>>>> >> then
>>>>>>> >> my mother in law came to visit.  Now she already has diabetes
>>>>>>>because >> of
>>>>>>> >> her
>>>>>>> >> diet and she loves junk food and candy.  She would get stuff
>>>>>>>and I >> would
>>>>>>> >> eat
>>>>>>> >> it.  Now I know this was not my mother in law's fault, it
>>>>>>>was my >> fault
>>>>>>> >> for
>>>>>>> >> eating the junk.  I have learned my lesson well and when she
>>>>>>>comes >> back
>>>>>>> >> this
>>>>>>> >> year I will really watch myself.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> JODY
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
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