[Sportsandrec] Research Not Survey

Sat Aug 11 21:52:31 UTC 2012

Hey, snarky Justin!
It's my morning.
you wrote:
>Good morning?  Are you in Australia?  Its 2:00 in the 
>afternoon  from where I'm sitting!
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>
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>>Good morning, Justin and others,
>>
>>I am blind. In my experience, other blind folk's affectionate if 
>>not somewhat irreverent  term for the cane is stick. For me, cane 
>>sounds like you take the device with more seriousness than it ought 
>>to be taken. So, I call it a stick and am proud of doing so.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "JUSTIN LOUCHART" <jalouchart at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List" 
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>>>Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:36 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Research Not Survey
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi, Ashley,
>>>>
>>>>That makes sense. We're taught as soon as we get a cane that it is a
>>>>cane, it has a proper name, and persons who have any opportunity to
>>>>know that name should both know and implement that name.
>>>>Unfortunately, cultural rules are very often not truths. It is a
>>>>stick. At its core, it is a stick. I call it a cane, I'm mildly amused
>>>>when others don't call it a cane, but I'm not offended. I happen to
>>>>know the difference between an initialism and an acronym, and there is
>>>>a strict grammatical (and thereby cultural)  differentiation between
>>>>those two words just as it is a strict differentiation between a cane
>>>>and a stick. I try not to be offended, however, when someone doesn't
>>>>know or chooses not to utilize what I understand to be a clear
>>>>separation of terms. They have their reasons, I have mine, and it's
>>>>important to me to not be offended by their less permanent choices.
>>>>We're not destroying the integrity of the thing by nominating it
>>>>tangentially to its cultural nomination.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Justin
>>>>
>>>>On 8/11/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>IMO, call a cane what it is, a white cane. I get offended when sighted
>>>>>people call my cane a stick. To me that diminishes its importance.
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: JUSTIN LOUCHART
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:06 AM
>>>>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Research Not Survey
>>>>>
>>>>>Good morning, Jody,
>>>>>
>>>>>A stick is actually grammatically and fundamentally correct, seeing as
>>>>>it serves no other function. A stick is not a definitional preface
>>>>>based upon matter or material thereof. Our cultural disposition to
>>>>>meet the word stick with negativity is only that, a cultural
>>>>>disposition.
>>>>>In every language I speak the word for the long cane is comparable to
>>>>>an English word for stick, as in German, schtuk. I would be dismayed
>>>>>to find this singular cultural disposition causing a glitch between
>>>>>multiple parties of the blindness contingent. We deal with enough
>>>>>negativity as humans in the first place, dealing with extra relative
>>>>>merely to our dialectical diction seems... unnecessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>Similarly, I'm totally on board with helping to explore historically
>>>>>significant paradigm shifts. Bring on the Louis and Clark!
>>>>>
>>>>>Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/11/12, jody at thewhitehats.com <jody at thewhitehats.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Hi Justin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, and a sighted guide will forget to remind you of curbs and obstacles
>>>>>>but the guide dog does not forget.  Hahahaha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Especially spouses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JODY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>--
>>>>>Justin Louchart
>>>>>JALOUCHART at GMAIL.COM
>>>>>
>>>>>Inveniam Viam Aut Faciam
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>>>>JALOUCHART at GMAIL.COM
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>>>>Inveniam Viam Aut Faciam
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