[Sportsandrec] clueless coaches

Roger Acuna kearney125 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 14:08:16 UTC 2012


Mike, high fives all around!  Kids are definitely more open to sports and 
rec ideas.  As a kid,  I was lucky to have the most awesome siblings and 
neighborhood buddies.  In one way or onther I participated and played right 
along  with them in all sports and activities including soccer, baseball, 
football, skateboarding, biking, and more: and yah, when it came to school 
PE instructors, it took some convincing.  And I also wrestled  at 126 weight 
class in heighschool highschool.in southern california.  Lots of fun!
Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin" <robin-melvin at comcast.net>
To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List" 
<sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches


> At 05:44 PM 7/9/2012, you wrote:
>>hello;
>>
>>My name is Mike, i know i've introduced myself to some of you.
>>I've read through this entire thread, and i've got to ask, where is the 
>>discussion around the responsibility of the student?  One person i think 
>>mentioned talking to the parent about what's going on in class... but what 
>>is the kid comfortable doing?  that's where it really dwells.
>>Sure the teachers have to use some common sense and judgement when it 
>>comes to class participation, however, i believe a fuller percentage of 
>>what can and can't be done lies with the student.  who knows his/her 
>>limitations better?
>>I lost both my eyes to retino blastoma by the time i was six.  i 
>>participated in all PE activities, including flag football where i played 
>>nose tackle and center just by having my knuckles touch the nose of the 
>>ball; my idea, not the teachers.  i even stripped a kid who had 40lbs on 
>>me and scored a touchdown, he was as shocked as anyone.  LOL
>>Basketball, just have another kid run under and clap once under the 
>>basket.  swimming, gymnastics, rope climbing,  volleyball, weights, 
>>track...
>>i actually got a call at college one day by my former braille transcriber 
>>and mobility specialist, they wanted to know how i succeeded in gym class 
>>because a girl had come 2 years behind me and was struggling.  they asked, 
>>well, "what did you do with Mike."  The teacher's answer was "nothing, he 
>>just did it."  No reason anyone else can't be like that.  if they can't, 
>>it should be like any child comparison with sight; you're either an 
>>athlete or you're not, has nothing to do with vision.  Obviously you're 
>>not going to hit a baseball with as much success, but i think you get my 
>>point.
>>i competed in wrestling from 3rd grade through my second year at The 
>>University of Pittsburgh, and also rowed stroke in a 4-man shell for the 
>>University.
>>in junior/high school i also participated in track, did long jump and 
>>discus.
>>Granted, it takes a little convincing of the parents/teachers, but that's 
>>my whole point.  We've got to tell these kids it's up to them, if we wait 
>>for the adults to figure it out, it'll be centuries.
>>I grew up wrestling in PA, probably the most competitive state in the 
>>nation for this sport, in one of the 3 most competitive weight classes at 
>>126lbs.  I'm not saying this to be immodest, i just want to help.  I had 
>>written to Lisa M earlier looking for ways i can assist, and i'm still 
>>waiting for a response.
>>Today i am lifting in a fully sighted open powerlifting federation, the 
>>IPA.  2 years ago i won Nationals for my age group at 198, it was 
>>incredible.  there's no reason other people can't feel this kind of 
>>success, especially the youngsters.
>>I'm also certified as a strength coach by the NSCA, and a senior Olympic 
>>lifting coach by USAW.  so if anyone else knows where and how i could 
>>help...
>>I remember at Pitt our coach use to make us wrestle with the lights out. 
>>It wasn't because i was there, Coach Stottlemeyer had been doing that for 
>>years.
>>These kinds of adaptations are out there, or just waiting to be found.
>>All it takes is the right kid, and we can help.
>>Coaches and teachers are there as resources, it is up to students and 
>>athletes to decide how to allow them to be of benefit, or be useful;
>>and athletes/students to be coachable/teachable.  Blind students and 
>>athletes are no different in my opinion.
>>thanks for allowing me to participate.
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List' 
>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 8:11 pm
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches
>>
>>Yeah, I met you.  We sat outside or a while, and you gave me some 
>>abdominal
>>tips.  You have a dog right?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill Kociaba
>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:00 PM
>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches
>>
>>I am not sure. I was at the sports and rec meeting and I spoke. I am a
>>former gym owner and am currently a massage therapist/personal trainer 
>>here
>>in hollywood, Fl.
>>I am sorry to say I met so many people that I am really not sure who was
>>who.
>>
>>Bill Kociaba
>>CRUISEONE
>>Bill at Ycruise.com
>>954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
>>7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:29 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches
>>
>>
>>>Did I meet you bill last year/
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill Kociaba
>>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:59 PM
>>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches
>>>
>>>Hay Justin,
>>>I wasn't there.  I was in Orlando last year and will be again next
>>year as
>>
>>>I
>>>live in Fl.  Traveling to conventions outside of the state doesn't
>>really
>>>fit into my budget.
>>>
>>>Bill Kociaba
>>>CRUISEONE
>>>Bill at Ycruise.com
>>>954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
>>>7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
>>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 3:20 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches
>>>
>>>
>>>>I wish I had a chance to meet you guys at convention.  I don't think
>>that
>>>>I
>>>>have ever met you.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>[mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>jody at thewhitehats.com
>>>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:53 PM
>>>>To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] clueless coaches
>>>>
>>>>Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>>I had a good friend who was a brittle diabetic.  His gym teacher's
>>idea
>>>>of
>>>>toughing him up was to have him run laps until he calapsed and ended
>>up
>>>>in
>>>>the emergency room in shock.
>>>>
>>>>Really, I look back and see how irresponsible some of these teachers
>>>>were.
>>>>Even having kids go outside in shorts and short sleeved shirts in
>>>>November
>>>>up north was so irresponsible.  If a parent sent their kid out to
>>play in
>>>>freezing weather in shorts and short sleeves they would be charged
>>with
>>>>child abuse!
>>>>
>>>>Some of the adaptive PE they come up with now a days isn't any
>>better.
>>>>The
>>>>totally blind girl I mentioned who came in second place in her
>>division
>>>>in
>>>>the judo tournament described PE in school.  The teacher had her sit
>>in a
>>>>chair and do arm exercises.  We joked about it all the time in class.
>>>>Those
>>>>are the exercises for an 80 year old cardiac patient, not a healthy
>>12
>>>>year
>>>>old blind girl.
>>>>
>>>>Oh don't get me started!  Actually I had so much faith in the public
>>>>school
>>>>system we homeschooled our daughter.  She got her diploma at 16.  She
>>>>started judo at 18 months of age but gave it up at 8.  Not to say she
>>>>didn't
>>>>learn anything.  She is married to a black belt in karate so now she
>>>>loves
>>>>kick boxing.
>>>>
>>>>Our son did get his black belt.  He started judo at 11.  He came
>>home
>>>>from
>>>>school complaining a bully made him kiss a tree in order to be
>>allowed to
>>>>pass him.  Well, it didn't take long before that boy ended up eating
>>>>grass
>>>>and leaving our son alone.  Our son had a great tai-otoshi, he could
>>even
>>>>do
>>>>it and make it look like the other guy tripped.
>>>>
>>>>We just moved to a small farm with 5 acres.  I am in heaven here.
>>Tom
>>>>and
>>>
>>>>I
>>>>were just out in the barn and we found our mats.  We can put them
>>out in
>>>>the
>>>>grass and play to our hearts content and with complete privacy
>>except for
>>>>our neighbor's horse.
>>>>
>>>>When we practice we have to leave the dogs inside because they think
>>we
>>>>are
>>>>puppy wrestling and they want to join in.
>>>>
>>>>Between the farm and working out I hope to loose some of the weight
>>I
>>>>have
>>>>put on over the last few years.  I was almost to my goal when my
>>mother
>>>>in
>>>>law came to stay with us.  She loves junk food. It wasn't her fault,
>>it
>>>>was
>>>>my fault for not having any will power.  I am determined now to get
>>to my
>>>>goal.  The Zone diet works best for us.
>>>>
>>>>JODY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>JODY
>>>>
>>>>
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