[Sportsandrec] Running Independently Outdoors: Need Creative Ideas!
Scott
kmssanderson at aol.com
Wed Oct 3 19:49:33 UTC 2012
This is an interesting topic as I have given up on running outside, too many bruises! Treadmill is safer but I do really miss running outside. The running stroller makes sense but leave it o me to wipe out a bunch of soft shoed walkers.
Laugh all you want at the paint roller handle but trust me, it works great! Best part is that the fiberglass is sensitive enough to give you an accurite reading on the footing. A graphite paint roller handle would be the cadillac hiking pole.
Anyone else have any hiking tips?
-Scott
---- Original Message ----
From: Louise Walch <louisewalch at gmail.com>
To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2012 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Running Independently Outdoors: Need Creative Ideas!
Tai,
Bouncing off the recent post about hiking tools--How about a long
handled paint roller? I'm only half serious as I've never tried this
method, but maybe something crazy like this would work.
For any others reading, I push a jogging stroller when I run. I do
have some remaining vision, but the three wheels in front give me good
info about upcoming terrain.
I really like your thinking though Tai and as always I'm very
interested to hear what you come up with.
Louise
On 10/3/12, Tai Blas <taiablas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all. I am a totally blind runner and recently moved to a house near a
> paved bike path. My crazy law school schedule and the schedules of possible
> running guides do not coincide, so it is difficult for me to find a running
> partner. I do run on a treadmill, but prefer to be outdoors. I would like
> to
> run independently on the path. I plan to use a physical landmark and/or GPS
> on my iPhone to let me know when I am nearing the point at which I started
> so I know where to exit the path to get home. I do not enjoy running with
> my
> cane, as I like to run fast and the cane seems to get caught in things at
> times. I am looking for some sort of stick with a wheel on the end that
> rolls forward and backwards or some kind of ball that can roll in all
> directions (not merely side-to-side as most cane roller tips do) so that I
> can run while using a cane-like object. I know this sounds odd, but I am
> wondering if anyone has ideas as to how I might make something like this
> for
> running. Ideally, the wheel or ball on the end could roll both side to side
> and forward so that I could always continue moving forward. Your thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tai
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:55:04 -0400
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
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> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
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> Hi Anita,
> The important thing is that you are creating something that seems to be
> working for you and that you are having fun doing. House work is not
> effective exercise. It can be hard work but you really want to exercise
> for
> the sake of exercising. In other words a focused effort purley to make you
> healthier or stronger or leaner(whatever your goals are)
> If you are having fun, you are sweating and your heart rate is up, you are
> on the right track.
> Finding a decent instructor is not always an easy thing. In my experience
> a
> lot of them tend to be flakes. I know that is going to piss someone off
> but its true. I owned a gym for years and delt with many insturctors on a
> professional level and it wasn't always easy. As far as it being cost
> prohibative goes, you might find someone who teaches at a comunity center,
> a
> JCC or in a hospital wellness center who might be more willing to work
> with
> you at a very reasonable price as these facilitys tend to pay less than the
> big commercial health clubs so that instructor might be more flexable.
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Anita Ogletree
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:40 PM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net> Hi Bill.
>
> I agree with you that doing a class one-on-one, when it's affordable, is a
> very good way to learn the moves. I had actually tried to get the one from
> AL to set up some time for us to do that but she never got around to it.
> When my money is right, I will seek out a good instructor and at least get
> down some of the basic moves. for now, I am enjoying what I have done for
> the last two days. That's probably not what a lot of folks want to do, but
> I believe it is working for me.
>
> Prior to yesterday, I wasn't getting much in the way of physical activity.
> There's only so much housework to be done and I didn't feel motivated enoug
> just to do some of the simple exercises like jumpin jacks, etc. So this
> has
> been good for me.
>
> Anita
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:56 AM
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Hi Ashley,
>> I really don't think you need to worry about being in class and the
>> others laughing at you becuase you have the moves wrong. I have
>> observed tons of aerobic classes, step classes, tybo classes etc and
>> most of the time there are more people doing the moves wrong than
>> right. If the moves are complicated the only doing them right is
>> usually the teacher. And in my opinion when a teacher makes the moves
>> to complicated she is an egotist and is more about showing off than
>> really helping the class.
>> The best way to learn the moves is to do a one on one with the
>> instructor.
>> I know some of you will say you can't aford a private session but its
>> really the only way to know what that instructor is doing. The bonus
>> is that the instructor will be awaire of you in class and might keep a
>> closer eye in your direction. You may find that if you contact the
>> instructor and explain your situation that he or she might be willing
>> to help you with no extra charge.
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:06 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have actually
>> found something I tried yesterday at home.
>>
>> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair
>> and said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She
>> told them to let the music help them by moving to what they felt from
>> listening. Then she incorporated the different arm and leg movements
>> into that.
>>
>> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I
>> can share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips.
>> I had learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in
> Birmingham.
>> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>
>> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try
>> it again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other
>> forms of exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I
>> didn't have the fun I did yesterday.
>>
>> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she
>> lost weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she
>> was heavier and still needed some to be altered. I think she went
>> from a size 14 to a size 10 within a six-month period. She had said
>> that she didn't want to lose anymore but since she was teaching it
>> several times a week, I think she was going to lose a few more. I
>> haven't spoken with her since last year, but I think I am going to
>> give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>>
>> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see
>> how I feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active
>> as I would like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end
>> up regretting it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness
>> I knew I would have and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my
>> abdominal muscles but I am determined to get healithier and possibly
>> stop taking medication for my blood pressure. It may even help with
>> my sleeping issues for which I take medication as well. My family's
>> medical history is chalked full of all of those illnesses of the
>> heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have that happen to me.
>> Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want to feel much
>> better about myself.
>>
>> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell
>> you how it is going.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Anita
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>> Anita,
>>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>>> class; looks fun though.
>>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>>> and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>>> friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>>> youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anita Ogletree
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>>> since I have posted to the list.
>>>
>>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>>> On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness
>>> centers that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the
>>> way of
>> exercise.
>>>
>>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in
>>> this form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some
> songs.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>>> music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor
>>> back in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically
>>> challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my
>>> improvisation will work to some extent.
>>>
>>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>>> be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>>> forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Warmest regards,
>>>
>>> Anita
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:20:35 -0700
> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>, "'Sports and Recreation for the
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> Discussion List'" <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
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> Hi, Ashley,
>
> At 05:56 AM 10/2/2012, Bill Kociaba wrote:
>>Good morning, Ashley,
>
>
> My partner, Robin and I wanted to get into abs classes at our gym
> where we are already avid spinners. I began by writing the instructor
> and hemet with us, administering private lessons FREE of charge! We
> learned the moves in his class and were able to circulate throughout
> the stations pretty seamless. And, we see the instructor on the bus
> sometimes and plainly, cultivated a new friend.
> You must contact the instructor to make sure he doesn't have any head
> trips going for which you ought to be wary.
> Good luck, Ashley and keep us posted!
> Car
>
>>I really don't think you need to worry about being in class and the others
>>laughing at you becuase you have the moves wrong. I have observed tons of
>>aerobic classes, step classes, tybo classes etc and most of the time there
>>are more people doing the moves wrong than right. If the moves are
>>complicated the only doing them right is usually the teacher. And in my
>>opinion when a teacher makes the moves to complicated she is an egotist
>> and
>>is more about showing off than really helping the class.
>>The best way to learn the moves is to do a one on one with the instructor.
>>I know some of you will say you can't aford a private session but its
> really
>>the only way to know what that instructor is doing. The bonus is that the
>>instructor will be awaire of you in class and might keep a closer eye in
>>your direction. You may find that if you contact the instructor and
> explain
>>your situation that he or she might be willing to help you with no extra
>>charge.
>>Bill
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>Anita Ogletree
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:06 AM
>>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have actually
> found
>>something I tried yesterday at home.
>>
>>I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair and
>>said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She told them
>> to
>>let the music help them by moving to what they felt from listening. Then
>>she incorporated the different arm and leg movements into that.
>>
>>What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I can
>>share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips. I had
>>learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in Birmingham.
>>Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>>sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>
>>But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try it
>>again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other forms of
>>exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I didn't have
> the
>>fun I did yesterday.
>>
>>When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she lost
>>weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she was heavier
>>and still needed some to be altered. I think she went from a size 14 to a
>>size 10 within a six-month period. She had said that she didn't want to
>>lose anymore but since she was teaching it several times a week, I think
> she
>>was going to lose a few more. I haven't spoken with her since last year,
>>but I think I am going to give her a call and see if she is still doing
>> it.
>>
>>But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see how I
>>feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active as I
>> would
>>like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end up regretting
>>it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness I knew I would
>> have
>>and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my abdominal muscles but I
>> am
>>determined to get healithier and possibly stop taking medication for my
>>blood pressure. It may even help with my sleeping issues for which I take
>>medication as well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all of
>>those illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have
>>that happen to me. Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want
>>to feel much better about myself.
>>
>>So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell you
> how
>>it is going.
>>
>>Have a great day!
>>
>>Anita
>>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>>To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>><sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>> > Anita,
>> > welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>> > exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>> > I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>> > class; looks fun though.
>> > I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>> > and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>> > friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>> > youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>> >
>> > Good luck.
>> > Ashley
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Anita Ogletree
>> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>> > To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>> >
>> > I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>> > since I have posted to the list.
>> >
>> > My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>> > On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>> > Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness centers
>> > that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the way of
>>exercise.
>> >
>> > This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>> > Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>> > available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in this
>> > form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some
> songs.
>> >
>> > Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>> > moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>> > music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back
>> > in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically
>> > challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my
>> > improvisation will work to some extent.
>> >
>> > I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>> > be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>> > forward to hearing from you.
>> >
>> > Warmest regards,
>> >
>> > Anita
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:14:07 -0500
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
> To: <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Great Workout Music
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> Hello. Recently, someone posted about playlists of workout music. I have a
> few suggestions:
>
> 1. NPR Music has put together a workout music stream. The ultimate workout
> mix can be accessed through the NPR Music app on your mobile device,
> through
> the Songza and Spotify apps on your mobile device, or at:
> http://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/145185920/the-ultimate-npr-workout-mix
>
> 2. The Songza app allows you to choose playlists by activity or genre. One
> of the activities is working out, and you can choose from several playlists
> with music appropriate for working out from every music genre.
>
> 3. Playlists on spotify. Check out the spotify app.
>
> 4. the Lolo apps for iPhone and possibly android allow you to choose beats
> per minute and the app will choose music with the correct BPM or speed up
> other music to meet the desired BPM.
>
>
> 5. I found a site containing playlists by beats per minute. It is:
> http://www.remanents.com/blog/bold-pace-music/
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Tai
>
>
>
>
>
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> 5. Re: Hello! (Ashley Bramlett)
> 6. Re: Hello! the music question (Ashley Bramlett)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:01:25 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
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>
> Hi,
>
> Well I'm in VA too. iIts northern va in fact; and more details can be given
> off list.
> Anita, as I said before on list, there are not many organized fitness and
> recreation activities for blind people. Zumba, well, I just asked about
> that and only received one response from Lori. The problem is classes go
> fast and I don?t think a DVD will explain the moves. Any friends or family
> willing to show you? I was just asking about that and was gonna reply to
> Lori soon.
> I looked for workout cds which would elimate the visual element and found
> none. Oh there's meditation and yoga cds, but that's it.
>
> My best suggestion is to join a gym that is friendly and affordable. Make
> sure you can operate the machines or are permitted to label them. You will
> probably need to join a zumba class at a gym or community center to learn.
> If you live in a major county like fairfax or arlington or Alexandria, they
> got a big recreation department. The rec centers offer such classes.
> The main blind sport is bowling. The league meets in Arlington at Fort
> myer.
>
> I can give more detail off list if interested.
> What prompted a move to VA and what sort of fitness do you like?
>
> I also can share with you about the beep ball league that plays in the
> summer in falls church if interested. Its fun, but not much exercise; we
> hit
> off a tee, where as regular beep ball you are pitched a ball. its an
> informal game sponsored by the phone pioneers.
> If in VA and interested, we really need more players and it starts again in
> july.
> As for me, I mainly walk and jog for my fitness.
> That's about all I can share about organized stuff for blind people.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ydnest at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:44 AM
> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
> Hello Anita Where is Virginia do you live? We live in Northern VA.
>
>
> Michelle Ouellet
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: sportsandrec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:36 am
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>
> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while since I
> have osted to the list.
> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
> May
> 4, 011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since. Unfortunately, I
> have
> not een able to find any of the fitness centers that I was a member of and
> I
> have ot had very much in the way of exercise.
> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
> Zumba.
>
> I
> lso did a search to see if there were any sites or videos available to to
> ndividuals that are blind that are interested in this form of fitness.
> Have
> ot found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the moves
> used n Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the music I just
> decided o swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back in Alabama
> attempted to show e. Of course I am rhythmically challenged and that is
> always a hurdle for me; owever, I think my improvisation will work to some
> extent.
> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
> into
> his fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward to hearing
> rom you.
> Warmest regards,
> Anita
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:42:49 -0400
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
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>
> Hi Ashly. I would love to talk to you off list. Email me here at
> anitaogletree at verizon.net.
>
> I needed a change from being an Bama girl.
>
> Let's talk soon!
>
> Anita
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 3:01 PM
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Well I'm in VA too. iIts northern va in fact; and more details can be
>> given off list.
>> Anita, as I said before on list, there are not many organized fitness and
>>
>> recreation activities for blind people. Zumba, well, I just asked about
>> that and only received one response from Lori. The problem is classes go
>> fast and I don?t think a DVD will explain the moves. Any friends or
>> family
>
>> willing to show you? I was just asking about that and was gonna reply to
>> Lori soon.
>> I looked for workout cds which would elimate the visual element and found
>>
>> none. Oh there's meditation and yoga cds, but that's it.
>>
>> My best suggestion is to join a gym that is friendly and affordable. Make
>>
>> sure you can operate the machines or are permitted to label them. You
>> will
>
>> probably need to join a zumba class at a gym or community center to
>> learn.
>
>> If you live in a major county like fairfax or arlington or Alexandria,
>> they got a big recreation department. The rec centers offer such classes.
>> The main blind sport is bowling. The league meets in Arlington at Fort
>> myer. I can give more detail off list if interested.
>> What prompted a move to VA and what sort of fitness do you like?
>>
>> I also can share with you about the beep ball league that plays in the
>> summer in falls church if interested. Its fun, but not much exercise; we
>> hit off a tee, where as regular beep ball you are pitched a ball. its an
>>
>> informal game sponsored by the phone pioneers.
>> If in VA and interested, we really need more players and it starts again
>> in july.
>> As for me, I mainly walk and jog for my fitness.
>> That's about all I can share about organized stuff for blind people.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ydnest at aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:44 AM
>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>> Hello Anita Where is Virginia do you live? We live in Northern VA.
>>
>>
>> Michelle Ouellet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
>> To: sportsandrec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:36 am
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while since
>>
>> I have
>> osted to the list.
>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
>> May 4,
>> 011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since. Unfortunately, I have
>>
>> not
>> een able to find any of the fitness centers that I was a member of and I
>> have
>> ot had very much in the way of exercise.
>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>> Zumba. I
>> lso did a search to see if there were any sites or videos available to to
>> ndividuals that are blind that are interested in this form of fitness.
>> Have
>> ot found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>> moves used
>> n Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the music I just
>> decided
>> o swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back in Alabama attempted to
>> show
>> e. Of course I am rhythmically challenged and that is always a hurdle
>> for
>
>> me;
>> owever, I think my improvisation will work to some extent.
>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
>> into
>> his fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward to
>> hearing
>> rom you.
>> Warmest regards,
>> Anita
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:01:56 -0700
> From: Mike <underthetoaster at gmail.com>
> To: Sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] derek jeter pitch n hit
> Message-ID: <506A04C4.4030507 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Guys
> While I was at convention one of the teachers from BLIND inc. told me
> about this device: the Derek Jeter Pitch 'n' Hit.. It is a baseball with
> a hole in it that travels along a double cord, therefore, you can hear
> it coming very well. You tie one end to a tree or pole or something and
> you have a friend hold the handles of the cords at the other end. Then
> they pull the handles apart quickly and bring them back together, which
> is what propels the ball.
> I got one and I found that it is really fun. It's way easier than
> hitting a beeper ball. And no electronics to damage! It is pretty easy
> but more challenging than hitting a ball from a tee since the pitcher
> can vary the speed, so you can actually track the entire path of the
> ball by hearing, which you can't do with the intermittent beeps of the
> beeper balls. Just thought I'd let you guys know about that. It's also a
> good way to wow the neighborhood kids.
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:47:02 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Anita,
> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced class;
> looks fun though.
> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools and
> community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind friendly
> workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try youtube for such a
> zumba demonstration.
>
> Good luck.
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Ogletree
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while since I
>
> have posted to the list.
>
> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
> May
>
> 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since. Unfortunately, I
> have not been able to find any of the fitness centers that I was a member
> of
>
> and I have not had very much in the way of exercise.
>
> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
> Zumba.
>
> I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos available to
> to
>
> individuals that are blind that are interested in this form of fitness.
> Have not found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
>
> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the moves
>
> used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the music I just
>
> decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back in Alabama
> attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically challenged and that is
> always a hurdle for me; however, I think my improvisation will work to some
>
> extent.
>
> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
> into
>
> this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward to
> hearing
>
> from you.
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Anita
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:50:04 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <A1A14B3647FC409896E0D0A32EBBA0FC at OwnerPC>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Michelle,
> Are you going to convention in richmond? If so, I will try and find you if
> I
>
> go. Not sure I can make it yet.
> Are you interested in zumba or other fitness class? If so, maybe I can
> propose for the next VA convention they hire an instructor to lead a class.
>
> It could be for zumba, aerobics or whatever we pick.
>
> I think it would be so much easier to learn in a class for blind people as
> the instructor would have to describe in detail moves then.
> A convention is a great place to get those involved in a fun thing like
> zumba.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ydnest at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:44 AM
> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
> Hello Anita Where is Virginia do you live? We live in Northern VA.
>
>
> Michelle Ouellet
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: sportsandrec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 9:36 am
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>
> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while since I
>
> have
> osted to the list.
> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
> May
>
> 4,
> 011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since. Unfortunately, I have
> not
> een able to find any of the fitness centers that I was a member of and I
> have
> ot had very much in the way of exercise.
> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
> Zumba.
>
> I
> lso did a search to see if there were any sites or videos available to to
> ndividuals that are blind that are interested in this form of fitness.
> Have
> ot found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the moves
>
> used
> n Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the music I just
> decided
> o swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back in Alabama attempted to
> show
> e. Of course I am rhythmically challenged and that is always a hurdle for
> me;
> owever, I think my improvisation will work to some extent.
> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
> into
> his fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward to hearing
> rom you.
> Warmest regards,
> Anita
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:52:23 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello! the music question
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> reply-type=response
>
> good question. Maybe asking a fitness instructor would answer this.
> I could see this upbeat music being motivating.
> if you have an itunes account, may want to try there.
> I usually don't workout with music, but if I do, I find disco upbeat enough
>
> to move to.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred's ol' XP
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:05 PM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello! the music question
>
> Hi,
> I'm also interested in workout music. Is there a stream that
> features music that ranges between 80 to 120-beats per minute?
> If not, wouldn't this be a cool group of audio streams to own/run?
> Thanks,
> Fred, a block from the beach, near San Diego
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:05:43 -0400
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
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> reply-type=response
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink
> Ashley,
> I have actually found something I tried yesterday at home.
>
> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair and
> said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She told them to
>
> let the music help them by moving to what they felt from listening. Then
> she incorporated the different arm and leg movements into that.
>
> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I can
> share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips. I had
> learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in Birmingham.
> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>
> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try it
> again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other forms of
> exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I didn't have
> the
>
> fun I did yesterday.
>
> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she lost
> weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she was heavier
> and still needed some to be altered. I think she went from a size 14 to a
> size 10 within a six-month period. She had said that she didn't want to
> lose anymore but since she was teaching it several times a week, I think
> she
>
> was going to lose a few more. I haven't spoken with her since last year,
> but I think I am going to give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>
> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see how I
> feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active as I would
>
> like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end up regretting
> it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness I knew I would have
>
> and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my abdominal muscles but I am
>
> determined to get healithier and possibly stop taking medication for my
> blood pressure. It may even help with my sleeping issues for which I take
> medication as well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all of
> those illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have
> that happen to me. Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want
> to feel much better about myself.
>
> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell you
> how
>
> it is going.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Anita
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Anita,
>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced class;
>> looks fun though.
>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools and
>> community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind friendly
>>
>> workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try youtube for such
>> a
>
>> zumba demonstration.
>>
>> Good luck.
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while since
>>
>> I have posted to the list.
>>
>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
>> May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>> Unfortunately,
>
>> I have not been able to find any of the fitness centers that I was a
>> member of and I have not had very much in the way of exercise.
>>
>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in this
>> form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
>>
>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>> music
>
>> I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back in
>> Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically challenged and
>>
>> that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my improvisation will
>> work to some extent.
>>
>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
>> into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward to
>>
>> hearing from you.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Anita
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:56:05 -0400
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <000601cda09d$49aff3b0$dd0fdb10$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Ashley,
> I really don't think you need to worry about being in class and the others
> laughing at you becuase you have the moves wrong. I have observed tons of
> aerobic classes, step classes, tybo classes etc and most of the time there
> are more people doing the moves wrong than right. If the moves are
> complicated the only doing them right is usually the teacher. And in my
> opinion when a teacher makes the moves to complicated she is an egotist and
> is more about showing off than really helping the class.
> The best way to learn the moves is to do a one on one with the instructor.
> I know some of you will say you can't aford a private session but its
> really
> the only way to know what that instructor is doing. The bonus is that the
> instructor will be awaire of you in class and might keep a closer eye in
> your direction. You may find that if you contact the instructor and
> explain
> your situation that he or she might be willing to help you with no extra
> charge.
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Anita Ogletree
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:06 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have actually
> found
> something I tried yesterday at home.
>
> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair and
> said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She told them to
> let the music help them by moving to what they felt from listening. Then
> she incorporated the different arm and leg movements into that.
>
> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I can
> share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips. I had
> learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in Birmingham.
> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>
> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try it
> again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other forms of
> exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I didn't have
> the
> fun I did yesterday.
>
> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she lost
> weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she was heavier
> and still needed some to be altered. I think she went from a size 14 to a
> size 10 within a six-month period. She had said that she didn't want to
> lose anymore but since she was teaching it several times a week, I think
> she
> was going to lose a few more. I haven't spoken with her since last year,
> but I think I am going to give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>
> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see how I
> feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active as I would
> like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end up regretting
> it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness I knew I would have
> and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my abdominal muscles but I am
> determined to get healithier and possibly stop taking medication for my
> blood pressure. It may even help with my sleeping issues for which I take
> medication as well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all of
> those illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have
> that happen to me. Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want
> to feel much better about myself.
>
> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell you
> how
> it is going.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Anita
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Anita,
>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>> class; looks fun though.
>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>> and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>> friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>> youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>>
>> Good luck.
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>> since I have posted to the list.
>>
>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>> On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness centers
>> that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the way of
> exercise.
>>
>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in this
>> form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
>>
>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>> music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back
>> in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically
>> challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my
>> improvisation will work to some extent.
>>
>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>> be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>> forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Anita
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:39:41 -0400
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <BLU170-DS310012BE6EEB6C1AD52F82DA860 at phx.gbl>
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>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> Hi Bill.
>
> I agree with you that doing a class one-on-one, when it's affordable, is a
> very good way to learn the moves. I had actually tried to get the one from
>
> AL to set up some time for us to do that but she never got around to it.
> When my money is right, I will seek out a good instructor and at least get
> down some of the basic moves. for now, I am enjoying what I have done for
> the last two days. That's probably not what a lot of folks want to do, but
>
> I believe it is working for me.
>
> Prior to yesterday, I wasn't getting much in the way of physical activity.
> There's only so much housework to be done and I didn't feel motivated enoug
>
> just to do some of the simple exercises like jumpin jacks, etc. So this
> has
>
> been good for me.
>
> Anita
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:56 AM
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Hi Ashley,
>> I really don't think you need to worry about being in class and the
>> others
>> laughing at you becuase you have the moves wrong. I have observed tons
>> of
>> aerobic classes, step classes, tybo classes etc and most of the time
>> there
>> are more people doing the moves wrong than right. If the moves are
>> complicated the only doing them right is usually the teacher. And in my
>> opinion when a teacher makes the moves to complicated she is an egotist
>> and
>> is more about showing off than really helping the class.
>> The best way to learn the moves is to do a one on one with the
>> instructor.
>> I know some of you will say you can't aford a private session but its
>> really
>> the only way to know what that instructor is doing. The bonus is that
>> the
>> instructor will be awaire of you in class and might keep a closer eye in
>> your direction. You may find that if you contact the instructor and
>> explain
>> your situation that he or she might be willing to help you with no extra
>> charge.
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:06 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have actually
>> found
>> something I tried yesterday at home.
>>
>> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair and
>> said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She told them
>> to
>> let the music help them by moving to what they felt from listening. Then
>> she incorporated the different arm and leg movements into that.
>>
>> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I can
>> share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips. I had
>> learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in Birmingham.
>> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>
>> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try it
>> again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other forms
>> of
>> exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I didn't have
>> the
>> fun I did yesterday.
>>
>> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she lost
>> weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she was
>> heavier
>> and still needed some to be altered. I think she went from a size 14 to
>> a
>> size 10 within a six-month period. She had said that she didn't want to
>> lose anymore but since she was teaching it several times a week, I think
>> she
>> was going to lose a few more. I haven't spoken with her since last year,
>> but I think I am going to give her a call and see if she is still doing
>> it.
>>
>> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see how I
>> feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active as I
>> would
>> like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end up regretting
>> it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness I knew I would
>> have
>> and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my abdominal muscles but I
>> am
>> determined to get healithier and possibly stop taking medication for my
>> blood pressure. It may even help with my sleeping issues for which I
>> take
>> medication as well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all
>> of
>> those illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to
>> have
>> that happen to me. Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I
>> want
>> to feel much better about myself.
>>
>> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell you
>> how
>> it is going.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Anita
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>> Anita,
>>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>>> class; looks fun though.
>>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>>> and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>>> friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>>> youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anita Ogletree
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>>> since I have posted to the list.
>>>
>>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>>> On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness centers
>>> that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the way of
>> exercise.
>>>
>>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in this
>>> form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some
>>> songs.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>>> music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back
>>> in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically
>>> challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my
>>> improvisation will work to some extent.
>>>
>>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>>> be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>>> forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Warmest regards,
>>>
>>> Anita
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sportsandrec mailing list
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:16:02 -0500
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
> To: <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Flip turns
> Message-ID: <004b01cda0da$bef2cbb0$3cd86310$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all. I am trying to learn to do flip turns. I received the adaptap units
> and have installed them in the pool. They are great. However, I have never
> done flip turns and would like to master them for the most efficiency while
> doing laps. Does anyone have tips?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tai
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:24:52 -0500
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
> To: <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Need An Incentive to Work Out?
> Message-ID: <004d01cda0db$fb0170b0$f1045210$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Here is a new service I have yet to try. I believe that an Android phone or
> iPhone is required. GymPact charges you for missed workouts and rewards you
> for meeting your weekly workout goals. When you sign up for an account, you
> specify how many times a week you will go to the gym or run using the
> RunKeeper app. You enter the gym you will attend and link your RunKeeper
> account to GymPact. You enter your financial info securely and specify how
> much the app can charge you each time you miss your workout. When you get
> to
> the gym or start a RunKeeper workout, start the GymPact app and complete
> your workout. Your phone's GPS will know how long you are at the gym or
> using RunKeeper and will register your workout. If you do not attend, you
> are charged the amount you committed to pay for missed workouts. If you do
> attend all of your workouts, then you are eligible to receive a payment.
> The
> payments charged to users who do not complete their weekly workout goals
> are
> then divided up among all of the users who did complete their weekly
> workout
> goal. Each week, you have an opportunity to cancel your account if you do
> not want to participate that week. More information is available at:
> http://www.gympact.com
>
> Tai
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:37:24 -0500
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
> To: <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blind_cycling at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] A Fitness Service I love: Earndit
> Message-ID: <006a01cda0dd$bb2f53b0$318dfb10$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Earndit,
> http://www.earndit.com,
> allows you to earn points toward free rewards just by completing your
> regular workouts. You need to use an approved device or app in order to
> participate. Approved activity measurement services include Foursquare (15
> points per gym check-in with a limit of one check-in per day), the
> BodyMedia
> FIT armband which is what I use, the Nike running censor which I also use,
> and others. You can earn up to 60 points per day for a maximum of 420
> points
> per week. Most rewards are at least 100 points. You can choose how you wish
> to redeem your points. So far, I have racked up over 1000 points and have
> received gift cards to purchase organic dried fruit from
> http://www.peeledsnacks.com, a Nature Box organic snack subscription from
> http://www.naturebox.com, and a ManPacks subscription for my husband from
> http://www.manpacks.com. Other rewards available include gift cards toward
> workout gear, clothes, water bottles, protein bars, energy drinks, and
> design-your-own snack bars. Check it out! Nothing like free gift cards!
>
> Tai
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:40:55 -0700
> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Great Workout Music
> Message-ID: <E1TJ9I7-0006Nu-Qb at elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Awesome list of resources!
> Thanks Tai
> Fred
>
> At 01:14 PM 10/2/2012, "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hello. Recently, someone posted about playlists of workout music. I have a
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:26:22 -0700
> From: Mike <underthetoaster at gmail.com>
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Flip turns
> Message-ID: <506B6A0E.7070408 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi
> I just recently learned how to do it and the real secret is just
> practice. You have to get the rythm of how your stroke is positioned
> whin you go down and then the hard part for me was after you kick off,
> turning back over so you are right-side up again. I rocketed down to the
> bottom of the pool many times before I got it right! I had a sighted
> instructor showing me but just practicing was more helpful than all the
> blah blahing the teacher was saying.
> Mike
>
> On 10/2/2012 1:16 PM, Tai Blas wrote:
>> Hi all. I am trying to learn to do flip turns. I received the adaptap
> units
>> and have installed them in the pool. They are great. However, I have
>> never
>> done flip turns and would like to master them for the most efficiency
> while
>> doing laps. Does anyone have tips?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tai
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:25:15 -0400
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <7083072CF08B4EE899A81AB8784C23A4 at OwnerPC>
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>
> Anita,
> sure I'll take the info. I share your concerns about being in a group and
> having sighted people think you're weird since you may not do what they're
> doing.
> Perhaps a fitness instructor could give you private lessons. I think
> exercise will go a long ways in helping prevent or control some of those
> family problems such as blood pressure and blood sugar.
>
> How long did you take zumba before and did the instructor help you
> individually?
>
> I'm real surprised a wheel chair bound person taught blind people zumba as
> she could not demonstrate it with the feet; well, maybe she got creative
> somehow.
>
> Glad you liked zumba and keep up with it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Ogletree
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:05 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink
> Ashley,
> I have actually found something I tried yesterday at home.
>
> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair and
> said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She told them to
> let the music help them by moving to what they felt from listening. Then
> she incorporated the different arm and leg movements into that.
>
> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I can
> share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips. I had
> learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in Birmingham.
> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>
> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try it
> again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other forms of
> exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I didn't have
> the
> fun I did yesterday.
>
> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she lost
> weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she was heavier
> and still needed some to be altered. I think she went from a size 14 to a
> size 10 within a six-month period. She had said that she didn't want to
> lose anymore but since she was teaching it several times a week, I think
> she
> was going to lose a few more. I haven't spoken with her since last year,
> but I think I am going to give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>
> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see how I
> feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active as I would
> like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end up regretting
> it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness I knew I would have
> and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my abdominal muscles but I am
> determined to get healithier and possibly stop taking medication for my
> blood pressure. It may even help with my sleeping issues for which I take
> medication as well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all of
> those illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have
> that happen to me. Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want
> to feel much better about myself.
>
> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell you
> how
> it is going.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Anita
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Anita,
>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced class;
>> looks fun though.
>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools and
>> community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind friendly
>>
>> workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try youtube for such
>> a
>
>> zumba demonstration.
>>
>> Good luck.
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while since
>>
>> I have posted to the list.
>>
>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
>> May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>> Unfortunately,
>
>> I have not been able to find any of the fitness centers that I was a
>> member of and I have not had very much in the way of exercise.
>>
>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in this
>> form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some songs.
>>
>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>> music
>
>> I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back in
>> Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically challenged and
>>
>> that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my improvisation will
>> work to some extent.
>>
>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
>> into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward to
>>
>> hearing from you.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Anita
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:56:11 -0400
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <BLU170-DS36C26CCB6FE0D2284DBAE3DA850 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi Bill.
>
> Thank you for the suggestions. And I agree that it is sometimes very
> challenging whenever dealing with high-priced gyms. I can't even begin to
> think about getting a personal trainer.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Anita
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:55 PM
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Hi Anita,
>> The important thing is that you are creating something that seems to be
>> working for you and that you are having fun doing. House work is not
>> effective exercise. It can be hard work but you really want to exercise
>> for
>> the sake of exercising. In other words a focused effort purley to make
>> you
>> healthier or stronger or leaner(whatever your goals are)
>> If you are having fun, you are sweating and your heart rate is up, you
>> are
>> on the right track.
>> Finding a decent instructor is not always an easy thing. In my
>> experience
>
>> a
>> lot of them tend to be flakes. I know that is going to piss someone off
>> but its true. I owned a gym for years and delt with many insturctors on
>> a
>> professional level and it wasn't always easy. As far as it being cost
>> prohibative goes, you might find someone who teaches at a comunity
>> center,
>
>> a
>> JCC or in a hospital wellness center who might be more willing to work
>> with
>> you at a very reasonable price as these facilitys tend to pay less than
>> the
>> big commercial health clubs so that instructor might be more flexable.
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:40 PM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net> Hi Bill.
>>
>> I agree with you that doing a class one-on-one, when it's affordable, is
>> a
>> very good way to learn the moves. I had actually tried to get the one
>> from
>> AL to set up some time for us to do that but she never got around to it.
>> When my money is right, I will seek out a good instructor and at least
>> get
>> down some of the basic moves. for now, I am enjoying what I have done
>> for
>> the last two days. That's probably not what a lot of folks want to do,
>> but
>> I believe it is working for me.
>>
>> Prior to yesterday, I wasn't getting much in the way of physical
>> activity.
>> There's only so much housework to be done and I didn't feel motivated
>> enoug
>> just to do some of the simple exercises like jumpin jacks, etc. So this
>> has
>> been good for me.
>>
>> Anita
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:56 AM
>> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>> Hi Ashley,
>>> I really don't think you need to worry about being in class and the
>>> others laughing at you becuase you have the moves wrong. I have
>>> observed tons of aerobic classes, step classes, tybo classes etc and
>>> most of the time there are more people doing the moves wrong than
>>> right. If the moves are complicated the only doing them right is
>>> usually the teacher. And in my opinion when a teacher makes the moves
>>> to complicated she is an egotist and is more about showing off than
>>> really helping the class.
>>> The best way to learn the moves is to do a one on one with the
>>> instructor.
>>> I know some of you will say you can't aford a private session but its
>>> really the only way to know what that instructor is doing. The bonus
>>> is that the instructor will be awaire of you in class and might keep a
>>> closer eye in your direction. You may find that if you contact the
>>> instructor and explain your situation that he or she might be willing
>>> to help you with no extra charge.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Anita Ogletree
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:06 AM
>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have actually
>>> found something I tried yesterday at home.
>>>
>>> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair
>>> and said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She
>>> told them to let the music help them by moving to what they felt from
>>> listening. Then she incorporated the different arm and leg movements
>>> into that.
>>>
>>> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I
>>> can share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips.
>>> I had learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in
>> Birmingham.
>>> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>>> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>>
>>> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try
>>> it again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other
>>> forms of exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I
>>> didn't have the fun I did yesterday.
>>>
>>> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she
>>> lost weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she
>>> was heavier and still needed some to be altered. I think she went
>>> from a size 14 to a size 10 within a six-month period. She had said
>>> that she didn't want to lose anymore but since she was teaching it
>>> several times a week, I think she was going to lose a few more. I
>>> haven't spoken with her since last year, but I think I am going to
>>> give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>>>
>>> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see
>>> how I feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active
>>> as I would like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end
>>> up regretting it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness
>>> I knew I would have and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my
>>> abdominal muscles but I am determined to get healithier and possibly
>>> stop taking medication for my blood pressure. It may even help with
>>> my sleeping issues for which I take medication as well. My family's
>>> medical history is chalked full of all of those illnesses of the
>>> heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have that happen to me.
>>> Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want to feel much
>>> better about myself.
>>>
>>> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell
>>> you how it is going.
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> Anita
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>>> Anita,
>>>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>>>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>>>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>>>> class; looks fun though.
>>>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>>>> and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>>>> friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>>>> youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Anita Ogletree
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>>>> since I have posted to the list.
>>>>
>>>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>>>> On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness
>>>> centers that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the
>>>> way of
>>> exercise.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>>>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>>>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in
>>>> this form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some
>> songs.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>>>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>>>> music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor
>>>> back in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically
>>>> challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my
>>>> improvisation will work to some extent.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>>>> be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>>>> forward to hearing from you.
>>>>
>>>> Warmest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Anita
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:11:16 -0400
> From: Anita Ogletree <anitaogletree1963 at live.com>
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <BLU170-DS41453B3BF506A2A27247C4DA850 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Hey Ashely. I never got the chance to take the class because the
> instructor
>
> could never fit in any time to work with me one-on-one. She just tried to
> show me some moves whenever I was at her shop. I realized that I wouldn't
> feel comfortable in a class with other people because I couldn't keep up
> with what was going on.
>
> Once I tried to learn to swim in a class that was offered for six weeks and
>
> I also tried doing the exercises they did in another. The person who had
> told me about the classes and drove me there and back laughed at me when
> she
>
> was talking to another church member about how I looked trying to do the
> exercises. That wasn't a good feeling. So I just won't put myself out
> there to be insulted like that. That destroys my confidence. I guess you
> could say I am a little insecure when it comes to being made fun of. It's
> something I have experienced from child hood to now.
>
> I will get the website address and email it to you. There are some links
> that want you to sign up as a member but I skipped over that and searched
> for those that could be played on Youtube.
>
> Anita
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:25 PM
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Anita,
>> sure I'll take the info. I share your concerns about being in a group and
>>
>> having sighted people think you're weird since you may not do what
>> they're
>
>> doing.
>> Perhaps a fitness instructor could give you private lessons. I think
>> exercise will go a long ways in helping prevent or control some of those
>> family problems such as blood pressure and blood sugar.
>>
>> How long did you take zumba before and did the instructor help you
>> individually?
>>
>> I'm real surprised a wheel chair bound person taught blind people zumba
>> as
>
>> she could not demonstrate it with the feet; well, maybe she got creative
>> somehow.
>>
>> Glad you liked zumba and keep up with it.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:05 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink
>> Ashley,
>> I have actually found something I tried yesterday at home.
>>
>> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair and
>> said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She told them
>> to
>> let the music help them by moving to what they felt from listening. Then
>> she incorporated the different arm and leg movements into that.
>>
>> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I can
>> share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips. I had
>> learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in Birmingham.
>> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>
>> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try it
>> again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other forms
>> of
>> exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I didn't have
>> the
>> fun I did yesterday.
>>
>> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she lost
>> weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she was
>> heavier
>> and still needed some to be altered. I think she went from a size 14 to
>> a
>> size 10 within a six-month period. She had said that she didn't want to
>> lose anymore but since she was teaching it several times a week, I think
>> she
>> was going to lose a few more. I haven't spoken with her since last year,
>> but I think I am going to give her a call and see if she is still doing
>> it.
>>
>> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see how I
>> feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active as I
>> would
>> like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end up regretting
>> it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness I knew I would
>> have
>> and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my abdominal muscles but I
>> am
>> determined to get healithier and possibly stop taking medication for my
>> blood pressure. It may even help with my sleeping issues for which I
>> take
>> medication as well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all
>> of
>> those illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to
>> have
>> that happen to me. Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I
>> want
>> to feel much better about myself.
>>
>> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell you
>> how
>> it is going.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Anita
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>> Anita,
>>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced class;
>>> looks fun though.
>>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools and
>>> community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>>> friendly
>
>>> workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try youtube for such
>>> a zumba demonstration.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anita Ogletree
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>>> since
>
>>> I have posted to the list.
>>>
>>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama. On
>>>
>>> May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness centers
>>> that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the way of
>>> exercise.
>>>
>>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in this
>>> form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some
>>> songs.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>>> music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor back
>>> in
>
>>> Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically challenged
>>> and
>
>>> that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my improvisation will
>>> work to some extent.
>>>
>>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may be
>>> into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look forward
>>> to
>
>>> hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Warmest regards,
>>>
>>> Anita
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sportsandrec mailing list
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:03:00 -0400
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <005e01cda16f$cd0ee680$672cb380$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Good morning Anita,
> I would be happy to do whatever I can to direct and help you. I have been
> a
> personal trainer since before they even coined the phrase. I realize Fl.
> to
> Va. prohibits face to face one on one work but I am sure I can be of some
> help. If you would like to talk off the group contact me directly at
> williamkociaba at comcast.net
>
> Just saw your other email. I think we all have been laughed at by someone
> in our lives and it really does hurt. When its strangers laughing at the
> fat kid or the blind kid or whatever that hurts but you can say&*(^ em and
> go on but when its a supposed friend as you mentioned that really is
> painful and someone from your church? A "good Christianwoman" then its
> unforgivable.
> Have a fantastic day and don't let anyone's negative energy slow you down.
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Anita Ogletree
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:56 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
> Hi Bill.
>
> Thank you for the suggestions. And I agree that it is sometimes very
> challenging whenever dealing with high-priced gyms. I can't even begin to
> think about getting a personal trainer.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Anita
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:55 PM
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Hi Anita,
>> The important thing is that you are creating something that seems to
>> be working for you and that you are having fun doing. House work is
>> not effective exercise. It can be hard work but you really want to
>> exercise for the sake of exercising. In other words a focused effort
>> purley to make you healthier or stronger or leaner(whatever your goals
>> are) If you are having fun, you are sweating and your heart rate is
>> up, you are on the right track.
>> Finding a decent instructor is not always an easy thing. In my
>> experience a
>> lot of them tend to be flakes. I know that is going to piss someone off
>> but its true. I owned a gym for years and delt with many insturctors
>> on a professional level and it wasn't always easy. As far as it being
>> cost prohibative goes, you might find someone who teaches at a
>> comunity center, a JCC or in a hospital wellness center who might be
>> more willing to work with you at a very reasonable price as these
>> facilitys tend to pay less than the big commercial health clubs so
>> that instructor might be more flexable.
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:40 PM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net> Hi Bill.
>>
>> I agree with you that doing a class one-on-one, when it's affordable,
>> is a very good way to learn the moves. I had actually tried to get
>> the one from AL to set up some time for us to do that but she never
>> got around to it.
>> When my money is right, I will seek out a good instructor and at least
>> get down some of the basic moves. for now, I am enjoying what I have
>> done for the last two days. That's probably not what a lot of folks
>> want to do, but I believe it is working for me.
>>
>> Prior to yesterday, I wasn't getting much in the way of physical
>> activity.
>> There's only so much housework to be done and I didn't feel motivated
>> enoug just to do some of the simple exercises like jumpin jacks, etc.
>> So this has been good for me.
>>
>> Anita
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:56 AM
>> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>> Hi Ashley,
>>> I really don't think you need to worry about being in class and the
>>> others laughing at you becuase you have the moves wrong. I have
>>> observed tons of aerobic classes, step classes, tybo classes etc and
>>> most of the time there are more people doing the moves wrong than
>>> right. If the moves are complicated the only doing them right is
>>> usually the teacher. And in my opinion when a teacher makes the
>>> moves to complicated she is an egotist and is more about showing off
>>> than really helping the class.
>>> The best way to learn the moves is to do a one on one with the
>>> instructor.
>>> I know some of you will say you can't aford a private session but its
>>> really the only way to know what that instructor is doing. The bonus
>>> is that the instructor will be awaire of you in class and might keep
>>> a closer eye in your direction. You may find that if you contact the
>>> instructor and explain your situation that he or she might be willing
>>> to help you with no extra charge.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Anita Ogletree
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:06 AM
>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have
>>> actually found something I tried yesterday at home.
>>>
>>> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair
>>> and said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She
>>> told them to let the music help them by moving to what they felt from
>>> listening. Then she incorporated the different arm and leg movements
>>> into that.
>>>
>>> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I
>>> can share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips.
>>> I had learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in
>> Birmingham.
>>> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>>> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>>
>>> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try
>>> it again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other
>>> forms of exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I
>>> didn't have the fun I did yesterday.
>>>
>>> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she
>>> lost weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she
>>> was heavier and still needed some to be altered. I think she went
>>> from a size 14 to a size 10 within a six-month period. She had said
>>> that she didn't want to lose anymore but since she was teaching it
>>> several times a week, I think she was going to lose a few more. I
>>> haven't spoken with her since last year, but I think I am going to
>>> give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>>>
>>> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see
>>> how I feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically
>>> active as I would like to have been for a while and I didn't .net
>>> want to end up regretting it. I took some advil to help with the
>>> muscle soreness I knew I would have and that pretty much did the job.
>>> I can feel my abdominal muscles but I am determined to get healithier
>>> and possibly stop taking medication for my blood pressure. It may
>>> even help with my sleeping issues for which I take medication as
>>> well. My family's medical history is chalked full of all of those
>>> illnesses of the heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have
>>> that
> happen to me.
>>> Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want to feel much
>>> better about myself.
>>>
>>> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell
>>> you how it is going.
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> Anita
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>>> Anita,
>>>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I
>>>> enjoy exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>>>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>>>> class; looks fun though.
>>>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>>>> and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>>>> friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>>>> youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Anita Ogletree
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>>>> since I have posted to the list.
>>>>
>>>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>>>> On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness
>>>> centers that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the
>>>> way of
>>> exercise.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out
>>>> during Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or
>>>> videos available to to individuals that are blind that are
>>>> interested in this form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was
>>>> able to find some
>> songs.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on
>>>> the moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of
>>>> the music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba
>>>> instructor back in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am
>>>> rhythmically challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however,
>>>> I think my improvisation will work to some extent.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>>>> be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>>>> forward to hearing from you.
>>>>
>>>> Warmest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Anita
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:46:16 -0400
> From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID:
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> That is rude. I hope you took that person to task for laughing at you about
> the swimming.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Anita Ogletree
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:11 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
> Hey Ashely. I never got the chance to take the class because the
> instructor
> could never fit in any time to work with me one-on-one. She just tried to
> show me some moves whenever I was at her shop. I realized that I wouldn't
> feel comfortable in a class with other people because I couldn't keep up
> with what was going on.
>
> Once I tried to learn to swim in a class that was offered for six weeks and
> I also tried doing the exercises they did in another. The person who had
> told me about the classes and drove me there and back laughed at me when
> she
> was talking to another church member about how I looked trying to do the
> exercises. That wasn't a good feeling. So I just won't put myself out
> there to be insulted like that. That destroys my confidence. I guess you
> could say I am a little insecure when it comes to being made fun of. It's
> something I have experienced from child hood to now.
>
> I will get the website address and email it to you. There are some links
> that want you to sign up as a member but I skipped over that and searched
> for those that could be played on Youtube.
>
> Anita
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:25 PM
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>
>> Anita,
>> sure I'll take the info. I share your concerns about being in a group
>> and having sighted people think you're weird since you may not do what
>> they're doing.
>> Perhaps a fitness instructor could give you private lessons. I think
>> exercise will go a long ways in helping prevent or control some of
>> those family problems such as blood pressure and blood sugar.
>>
>> How long did you take zumba before and did the instructor help you
>> individually?
>>
>> I'm real surprised a wheel chair bound person taught blind people
>> zumba as she could not demonstrate it with the feet; well, maybe she
>> got creative somehow.
>>
>> Glad you liked zumba and keep up with it.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Ogletree
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:05 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink Ashley, I have actually
>> found something I tried yesterday at home.
>>
>> I did a google search and found an individual who is in a wheelchair
>> and said that she taught some blind students how to do Zumba. She
>> told them to let the music help them by moving to what they felt from
>> listening. Then she incorporated the different arm and leg movements
>> into that.
>>
>> What I did was to search for Latin music and I found a website that I
>> can share with you if you'd like and I did the movements with my hips.
>> I had learned a little of that from my previous hairstylist back in
> Birmingham.
>> Only thing is, I'd rather do it where I can mess up and not feel that
>> sighted people are watching me or laughing at me because I look weird.
>>
>> But I worked up a good sweat and enjoyed it so much I am going to try
>> it again today. I have started and stopped so many times with other
>> forms of exercise. Even when I had a portable treadmill back in AL I
>> didn't have the fun I did yesterday.
>>
>> When the hairstylist was doing it and then became an instructor, she
>> lost weight and sold some of her clothes that she had worn when she
>> was heavier and still needed some to be altered. I think she went
>> from a size 14 to a size 10 within a six-month period. She had said
>> that she didn't want to lose anymore but since she was teaching it
>> several times a week, I think she was going to lose a few more. I
>> haven't spoken with her since last year, but I think I am going to
>> give her a call and see if she is still doing it.
>>
>> But I am going to spend atleast 45 minutes to an hour today and see
>> how I feel. I took it easy because I havent been as physically active
>> as I would like to have been for a while and I didn't .net want to end
>> up regretting it. I took some advil to help with the muscle soreness
>> I knew I would have and that pretty much did the job. I can feel my
>> abdominal muscles but I am determined to get healithier and possibly
>> stop taking medication for my blood pressure. It may even help with
>> my sleeping issues for which I take medication as well. My family's
>> medical history is chalked full of all of those illnesses of the
>> heart, kidneys and blood sugar. Not trying to have that happen to me.
>> Before I reach my next birthday (I will be 50), I want to feel much
>> better about myself.
>>
>> So I will send you the information if you would like and I will tell
>> you how it is going.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Anita
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:47 PM
>> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>
>>> Anita,
>>> welcome. I am a part time student while looking for work and I enjoy
>>> exercise. I mainly walk and jog.
>>> I wish I could try zumba, but not sure how I'd do the fast paced
>>> class; looks fun though.
>>> I think you'll find a gym or zumba class in your area. Some schools
>>> and community centers offer it; its popular. I wish there were blind
>>> friendly workout cds, but haven't found them yet. You might try
>>> youtube for such a zumba demonstration.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anita Ogletree
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
>>>
>>> I just wanted to say hello, again to the list. It has been a while
>>> since I have posted to the list.
>>>
>>> My name is Anita and the last time I posted I was living in Alabama.
>>> On May 4, 2011, I moved to Virginia and have been here since.
>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any of the fitness
>>> centers that I was a member of and I have not had very much in the
>>> way of exercise.
>>>
>>> This morning I went searching for music played for working out during
>>> Zumba. I also did a search to see if there were any sites or videos
>>> available to to individuals that are blind that are interested in
>>> this form of fitness. Have not found it yet but I was able to find some
> songs.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list know someone who can give instructions on the
>>> moves used in Zumba or any videos or cd's? When I found some of the
>>> music I just decided to swivel my hips the way a Zumba instructor
>>> back in Alabama attempted to show me. Of course I am rhythmically
>>> challenged and that is always a hurdle for me; however, I think my
>>> improvisation will work to some extent.
>>>
>>> I would love to hear from anyone who has ever tried Zumba or who may
>>> be into this fitness routine and can give me some pointers. Look
>>> forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Warmest regards,
>>>
>>> Anita
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:47:36 -0400
> From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Sportsandrec] hiking
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> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their any
> hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as good
> staffs
> for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal cain won't work.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:05:20 -0400
> From: JUSTIN LOUCHART <jalouchart at gmail.com>
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> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
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> Hi,
>
> I'm an avid hiker in almost all terrain. I use my cane in my right
> hand and a titanium trekking pole in my left, sweeping with one and
> stabbing with the other.
>
> Justin Louchart
>
> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their any
>> hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as good
>> staffs
>> for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal cain won't
> work.
>>
>>
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>
> --
> Justin Louchart
> JALOUCHART at GMAIL.COM
>
> Inveniam Viam Aut Faciam
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:01:02 -0400
> From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
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> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
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> Which one do you sweep with? And where do I get a titanium pole. What is
> the length on both? I found that lemgth really helped?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> JUSTIN LOUCHART
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:05 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm an avid hiker in almost all terrain. I use my cane in my right hand and
> a titanium trekking pole in my left, sweeping with one and stabbing with
> the
> other.
>
> Justin Louchart
>
> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their
>> any hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as
>> good staffs for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal
>> cain won't work.
>>
>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:25:50 -0400
> From: JUSTIN LOUCHART <jalouchart at gmail.com>
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> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
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>
> I use a variety depending upon what country I'm in, etc. I think our
> standard poles are Leki.
>
> I usually sweep with my cane, exceptions are when dealing with
> extremely fragile ground or when needing to test rock faces.
>
> Mine are both telescopically extendable, my cane comes up to 59 inches
> on my 64 inch frame, and my trekking pole comes up to something like
> 57 inches.
>
> Justin
>
> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Which one do you sweep with? And where do I get a titanium pole. What is
>> the length on both? I found that lemgth really helped?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> JUSTIN LOUCHART
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:05 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm an avid hiker in almost all terrain. I use my cane in my right hand
> and
>> a titanium trekking pole in my left, sweeping with one and stabbing with
>> the
>> other.
>>
>> Justin Louchart
>>
>> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their
>>> any hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as
>>> good staffs for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal
>>> cain won't work.
>>>
>>>
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>> JALOUCHART at GMAIL.COM
>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:26:28 -0400
> From: "Jody Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Hello!
> Message-ID: <000001cda17b$75d7f8f0$6187ead0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I agree, that was rude and I would have said something too. And she calls
> herself a Christian?
>
> JODY
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:13:50 -0400
> From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
> Message-ID:
>
> <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAKCS8Et50zBKrk/jSsh9JUgigQAAEAAAAHBWhTwvXZBDoDPo1pfw
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I need to talk to you. Can I call you off list?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> JUSTIN LOUCHART
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:26 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> I use a variety depending upon what country I'm in, etc. I think our
> standard poles are Leki.
>
> I usually sweep with my cane, exceptions are when dealing with extremely
> fragile ground or when needing to test rock faces.
>
> Mine are both telescopically extendable, my cane comes up to 59 inches on
> my
> 64 inch frame, and my trekking pole comes up to something like
> 57 inches.
>
> Justin
>
> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Which one do you sweep with? And where do I get a titanium pole. What
>> is the length on both? I found that lemgth really helped?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of JUSTIN LOUCHART
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:05 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm an avid hiker in almost all terrain. I use my cane in my right
>> hand and a titanium trekking pole in my left, sweeping with one and
>> stabbing with the other.
>>
>> Justin Louchart
>>
>> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their
>>> any hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as
>>> good staffs for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A
>>> normal cain won't work.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Justin Louchart
>> JALOUCHART at GMAIL.COM
>>
>> Inveniam Viam Aut Faciam
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:14:07 -0400
> From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
> Message-ID:
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> I mean call you? Not call you off list? Lol.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> JUSTIN LOUCHART
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:26 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> I use a variety depending upon what country I'm in, etc. I think our
> standard poles are Leki.
>
> I usually sweep with my cane, exceptions are when dealing with extremely
> fragile ground or when needing to test rock faces.
>
> Mine are both telescopically extendable, my cane comes up to 59 inches on
> my
> 64 inch frame, and my trekking pole comes up to something like
> 57 inches.
>
> Justin
>
> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Which one do you sweep with? And where do I get a titanium pole. What
>> is the length on both? I found that lemgth really helped?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of JUSTIN LOUCHART
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:05 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm an avid hiker in almost all terrain. I use my cane in my right
>> hand and a titanium trekking pole in my left, sweeping with one and
>> stabbing with the other.
>>
>> Justin Louchart
>>
>> On 10/3/12, Justin.Williams2 <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their
>>> any hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as
>>> good staffs for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A
>>> normal cain won't work.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> JALOUCHART at GMAIL.COM
>>
>> Inveniam Viam Aut Faciam
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:34:18 -0600
> From: "Matt Simpson" <msimpson at usaba.org>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
> Message-ID: <023c01cda17c$8dc97820$a95c6860$@usaba.org>
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>
> Hi Justin,
>
> I recently began hiking a bit more myself after not having been in a few
> years. I bought a couple of trekking poles from R.E.I. They are aluminum
> adjustable poles that can take your bodyweight. I was at first skeptical of
> needing two poles as I previously only used one. However, I found that for
> rougher hikes, especially going down hill, having two poles was invaluable.
> You can use one to feel obstacles or drop-offs and put your weight on both
> while dropping down ledges or larger drop-offs. They were on the pricier
> side, $60 and up for a set, but I have found it well worth the price so
> far.
>
> Matt
>
> Matt Simpson
> Membership and Outreach Coordinator
> United States Association of Blind Athletes
> 1 Olympic Plaza
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
> 719-866-3019 (Direct)
> 719-866-3400(Fax)
> www.usaba.org
> Facebook? Twitter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Justin.Williams2
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:48 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their any
> hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as good
> staffs
> for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal cain won't work.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Scott <kmssanderson at aol.com>
> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
> Message-ID: <8CF6F952466142D-A94-7C72A at webmail-d087.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hey Everyone
>
>
> I hike/hunt a ton and I tried the hiking poles but never had much luck with
> them withstanding heavy use. This will sound funny but I went to home depot
> and bought a fiberglass extendable paint roller handle. Yep, that's my
> outdoor hiking cane. I believe it's like 1 1/2" diameter and extends out
> maybe 8 feet. I have used this for 5 years now and never had any problems
> with it breaking and they can withstand tons of pressure.
>
>
> When handle is retracted it's maybe 4 feet long and depending on terrian I
> can slide out more if needed like going down steep stuff.
>
>
> Looks like a redneck thing but it works.
>
>
> -Scott
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: Matt Simpson <msimpson at usaba.org>
> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2012 11:34 am
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> I recently began hiking a bit more myself after not having been in a few
> years. I bought a couple of trekking poles from R.E.I. They are aluminum
> adjustable poles that can take your bodyweight. I was at first skeptical of
> needing two poles as I previously only used one. However, I found that for
> rougher hikes, especially going down hill, having two poles was invaluable.
> You can use one to feel obstacles or drop-offs and put your weight on both
> while dropping down ledges or larger drop-offs. They were on the pricier
> side, $60 and up for a set, but I have found it well worth the price so
> far.
>
> Matt
>
> Matt Simpson
> Membership and Outreach Coordinator
> United States Association of Blind Athletes
> 1 Olympic Plaza
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
> 719-866-3019 (Direct)
> 719-866-3400(Fax)
> www.usaba.org
> Facebook Twitter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Justin.Williams2
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:48 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their any
> hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as good
> staffs
> for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal cain won't work.
>
>
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>
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:59:23 -0400
> From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'"
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
> Message-ID:
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>
> I had a long wooden stick, and that combined with lunca martial art foot
> work did preety well, but I will definitely want a better pole, no
> question.
> I am a little leiry about having both h ands full.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Matt Simpson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> I recently began hiking a bit more myself after not having been in a few
> years. I bought a couple of trekking poles from R.E.I. They are aluminum
> adjustable poles that can take your bodyweight. I was at first skeptical of
> needing two poles as I previously only used one. However, I found that for
> rougher hikes, especially going down hill, having two poles was invaluable.
> You can use one to feel obstacles or drop-offs and put your weight on both
> while dropping down ledges or larger drop-offs. They were on the pricier
> side, $60 and up for a set, but I have found it well worth the price so
> far.
>
> Matt
>
> Matt Simpson
> Membership and Outreach Coordinator
> United States Association of Blind Athletes
> 1 Olympic Plaza
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
> 719-866-3019 (Direct)
> 719-866-3400(Fax)
> www.usaba.org
> Facebook? Twitter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Justin.Williams2
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:48 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] hiking
>
> So, I hiked an eight and a half mile hike last Saturday. Are their any
> hikers on this list? Are their any tips you can give me such as good
> staffs
> for hiking? The long stick I had really helped. A normal cain won't work.
>
>
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