[Sportsandrec] introduction and suggesting on relearningriding atricycle as a blind adult

Mon Aug 26 02:21:07 UTC 2013

Hi Lisa,

I think the idea to make a stand for your tricycle is a good idea.

I think you're on the right track; you already have walked the route to 
familiarize yourself with the curbs, bumps etc.
I hope you find something that works. I would think an O&M instructor would 
have ideas of what devices, if any, would detect curbs, hills, etc.
There are some electronic travel aids out there that use waves in the 
environment to detect objects, but I do not think any of them detect drop 
offs.

The mini guide may be of help because it detects overhanging objects and 
nearby objects such as mailboxes.
It will not detect drop offs though.
Perhaps you can use landmarks in the environment and the mini guide can help 
you find them for orientation purposes.
If interested, the miniguide is sold by APH.

Here is the description.
This portable electronic travel device is ideal for use by blind and 
deafblind persons.

The Miniguide US is a tiny, handheld electronic travel device that can 
enhance the effectiveness of a blind person's primary travel method. It uses 
ultrasound to detect objects, and gives tactual or auditory feedback by 
vibrating or chirping more rapidly as you approach an object.

When used with a cane or dog guide, the Miniguide US can help a blind person 
avoid obstacles and overhangs; locate landmarks; locate items such as 
mailboxes or trash cans; and find paths through crowds at ranges from 20 
inches to 26 feet.

The optional Remote Unit is used in an instructional setting so that 
instructors can receive the same tactual feedback as their students.
end description.

I think your tricycle sounds neat. Nice that it has a basket
on the back. That will be handy if you want to carry water.
I think texture changes and the sun will help in orientation and maybe the I 
phone gps.

Let us know how it turns out.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lisa Hall
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:52 PM
To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] introduction and suggesting on relearningriding 
atricycle as a blind adult

Hi Ashley,

Due to the fact that it's been approximately 30 years since I rode a 
tricycle, I'm sure it will take time to get confidence in using it again. I 
do quite a bit of walking to familiarize where bumps are on the sidewalk. I 
suppose I could check with an O&M Instructor regarding this myself. The 
tricycle have 2 brakes, one on each side of the handle bard, and a park 
button on each side of the handlebar. It even have a basket in the back for 
carrying things if needed.

The seat on the back is adjustable and is configured for my height and 
comfort level at this time. I still have to purchase a helmet, a bell or 
horn, and probably a chain and padlock for securing the tricycle. I even 
have thought of getting a couple of blocks to put under the two back wheels 
to use as an exercise bike for during the winter or wet days when I want to 
work out. What do others think?

Sincerely,

Lisa Hall

-----Original Message-----
From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:28 PM
To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] introduction and suggesting on relearning riding 
atricycle as a blind adult

Hello Lisa,
Welcome to the list.
I've seen you on other lists.

I also need to exercise more. I'm not a hard core exerciser or rec person, 
but thought I'd stay on here to see what techniques everyone uses to stay 
active.
Like you, I have some of those hobbies such as music, reading, and playing 
card games.

I belong to a health club too, but have to rely on the unreliable 
paratransit to get there and consequently do not go as much as I need to; 
maybe a few times a week.
I tend to just move to music or jump around for exercise at home.
I suggest keeping up the walking about the neighborhood for exercise; a 
great low impact activity.
I wish I could, but we do not have sidewalks where I am and I plan to move 
to some place where I can do so when I have a job.

I also rode a tricycle as a kid for recreation activities. I also had a big 
wheel before a tricycle; oh this brings back memories!
It was fun!
I also just learned of tricycles for adults recently and was very pleasantly 
surprised.
I was always supervised though and just rode around the quiet neighborhood 
and also used my vision to steer clear of objects but there were rarely any.

I'm sure you will find many blind and sighted adults who ride bikes.
I would imagine many of the same concepts of care and maintenance and 
learning to ride such as the rpm to go will be the same.
Have you asked a local bike club about this?
I would think you could learn from sighted people who use them about the 
mechanics of riding a tricycle.

You simply peddal a tricycle. Curious why don't you want a bike? You could 
either ride a bike behind someone or get a tandem bike and then the guide is 
right in front of you guiding the bike.
I would rather have a tricycle because of the balance factor. My vision 
impairment has affected my gait and balance and I think if I mounted a bike 
it would fall over. Looking back on it, I was too scared to ride without 
training wheels; when my parents got a kid bike, it had training wheels and 
I was too afraid to ask for them to be removed. I had trouble controlling 
the bike's speed sometimesand recall the bike crashing into things a few 
times .

Anyway, I should look into a tricycle! That would be a cool way to enjoy the 
outside and ride somewhat independently; I'd have a guide ahead of me still, 
but I'd feel safe enough riding the tricycle alone on a bike path and we 
have many in the next town.
Do you get them from bike stores, or where?
Glad this question came up as it’s a good one. In a familiar environment 
such as a neighborhood, how can we ride safely and navigate drop offs and 
objects?

Anyway, back to your question.
You said,
"My goal is to relearn how to ride a tricycle as an adult. I don't know many 
blind people who ride tricycles as an adult. "

Lisa, I know no one riding a tricycle as an adult; that is a new thing in 
the bike world, the idea of tricycles for adults.
But there are many people on here who rode or ride tandem bikes as an adult.
I think they can give advice if they are still on here.
You say, you need to relearn to ride. Hmm.
What exactly do you need to relearn? You simply peddal it.
Well, you will have to learn to put on the brakes but other than that, what 
would you need to learn?

As to your question of learning what
is in front of you with hearing loss, I do not know of a way. Can you make 
use of echo location with your hearing aids?
That is the ability to use echos from objects. If not, I don't know.
Most blind people I know use echo location to determine what is ahead but it 
will not detect drop offs.
Have you investigated any of the electronic travel aids?
I do not have one and know little about them.
I can ask this question on the mobility instructor list if you want and I 
won't use your name.
Anyway, a electronic travel aid may be something of use; they vibrate to 
communicate with you.
I think the mini guide vibrates with objects ahead of you.
Do you have any vision? If so, putting bright colors on curbs may help. Of 
course you'd need permission to do so, but I would think they would grant 
this.
Another idea is walking the route with a cane and remembering it. Another 
idea is having someone make you a tactile map with such information. As you 
ride, pay attention to texture changes and slopes.
Also, the feel of the wind may help.
Finally, I think using the GPS on the I phone and other related aps will 
help.
Not being an I device user, I cannot recommend aps. But I bet there are aps 
that will tell you about streets.

Your safest bet might be to use a sighted person to ride with you  a few 
times around with to allert you of drop offs and changes in terrain.
Its harder with hearing loss I'm sure. I commend your efforts. Best of luck 
with your boyfriend and you to learn the tricycle.

Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Hall
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:33 AM
To: Sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Sportsandrec] introduction and suggesting on relearning riding 
atricycle as a blind adult

Hi everyone,

I am Lisa Hall from Cincinnati, Ohio. I am a longtime member of NFB since 
1985. I have lived in three states over the years: Louisiana, 32 years; 
Texas, 11 years; and Ohio 7 years. I currently work for Clovernook Center 
for the Blind and Visually Impaired as a Braille proofreader. I have my 
personal web site at www.lisa-halls-world.org. I have not learned how to use 
Twitter, facebook or any other network opportunities out on the internet 
yet. I noticed that many businesses use this medium to find new customers 
and reconnect with previous customers. I have been totally blind all of my 
life.

As far as recreation activities, as a kid, I used to ride a tricycle when I 
lived in Louisiana from 1962 through 1995. I loved it back then. My 
neighborhood back then was quiet and little traffic on my residential 
street. I abandon this activity for many years since I became an adult. I 
learned recently that tricycle for adults was available. My boyfriend 
purchased one for me as a surprise for my birthday which doesn't occur until 
December 3 and Christmas which is several months off. Now I am in a training 
mode again.

I like to walk around my neighborhood to keep fit when I can. Over the last
2 years I joined two health clubs but did not go very often because of 
transportation challenges. I live in a three-bedroom apartment with steps to 
get into the building with a sidewalk similar to a setup in a regular house 
where I grew up. However, the house I lived in back then did not have stairs 
and only 1 step into the house.

The neighborhood is on a bus line and I walk to work everyday. I live across 
the street from the center making it convenient to walk to and from work. I 
am close enough to places like restaurants, bank, grocery store, etc. There 
are some places I go to that is not on a bus line. I depend on a driver to 
get me to places not possible to get to by public transportation. The cab 
system is terrible and very expensive here. I have a severe hearing 
impairment and wear 2 hearing aids.

My boyfriend is going to help me relearn the techniques so that I can get my 
confidence back. I primarily use a straight cane for my travel. Should I 
consider using a folding cane?

Now that I am relearning how to use an adult tricycle, is there any way to 
know what is in front of me in terms of hills, curbs, etc.? I just purchased 
an iPhone back in May and am learning many things on it on my own. I have 
been reading many books from National Braille Press regarding the I devices.
About a month ago, I purchased a subscription to Seeing Eye GPS which allows 
a blind person to learn streets around my neighborhood, points of interest 
that I didn't know about, and using the GPS when I travel in a car with a 
driver. I also use a Braille display which I purchased to go with my 
computer and iPhone. I hope to one day teach my boyfriend how to use his 
Android device better.

My goal is to relearn how to ride a tricycle as an adult. I don't know many 
blind people who ride tricycles as an adult.

In the past, I have used a treadmill that have been marked but never owned 
one. I also used an exercise bicycle as well but never owned one. I wish 
there is an affordable health club closer to my home. I don't have a lot of 
space for lots of equipment and some of those equipment is very expensive.

My hobbies are reading, music, computers, going to movies and plays, 
attending concerts every once in a while, playing games like cards, dominos, 
bingo, monopoly which I haven't done in several years as a kid.

My sister and brother live in Texas and Louisiana and they both have their 
own kids. Now their kids are having their own children. I only get to see 
them at least once a year.

I have been single all of my life and am trying to balance life as it should 
be.

I hope to learn many activities that everyone is doing to keep fit and stay 
busy.

Take care and hope to meet many of you at National Convention in Orlando, 
Florida next summer.

By the way, I am President of National Association of Blind Office 
Professionals and have been doing this since 1996. I am helping to change 
what it means to be blind.

Sincerely yours,

Lisa Hall

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