[Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder

justin williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 14 04:40:52 UTC 2013


True.  Of course, that is why I will study the art of the flash sonar.  I've
already figured out a few instances where it would be useful.  I need to
look at the video.  I found my-self using what flash sonar I knew a couple
of days ago while walking.  I'm a full time student, so I just don't have
much time.  Can't wait.  Yeah, I am intense; very much so.  Great to hear
from you.

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From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Carly Mihalakis
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:35 PM
To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List; 'Sports and
Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder

Hi, Justin,

I am still confused, how would ol' Sighty know what you're doing? 
/And, wouldn't you wanna seem more adept in the eyes of our lovely sighted
counterparts? Our assets are few, and  it would seem to me, we oughta use
every of those available to us. I don't hope to change your mind, as I
suppose it's not really my place, but you, if I do say so myself, sound like
a really intense guy, someone deathly afraid of playing a victim. Remember
that many say, that which doesn't kill you, only serves to render you more
solid as a rock. 
Whatya think? At 07:03 PM 2/13/2013, justin williams wrote:
>I don't know.  I still plan to watch the video and study the technique.  
>I need every tool I can get.  It is just in my nature to be secretive.  
>I would gladly teach another blind person, but I am reluctant to share 
>all of my abilities with sighted counterparts.  I just figure they have 
>enough advantages as it is, why give them mine.  I don't mean to sound 
>harsh, but it is just the way I have trained myself.  I have had people 
>try and play tricks on me over the years.  I've learned the hard way.  Any
sighted people
>on this list are excused.   Big thumbs up to you guys.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Carly Mihalakis
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:40 PM
>To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List; 'Sports and 
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>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder
>
>Hi, Justin,
>
>Well, do ya think most sighted people will be none the wiser about what 
>you are doing, unless they know what to be listening for?
>Perhaps, amongst other blind folk, such an ability might be hard to 
>conceal, but relax about your treasure. What's the point of hiding it 
>when, I'm sure you don't see sighted people concealing the fact that, 
>they might be able to ocularly see. For me, seeing without eyes even is 
>a tremendous asset to my travel, in fact to most fasits of mobility, and my
life in general.
>Please don't see this as an attack. I'm just befuddled.
>Car 09:24 AM 2/11/2013, justin williams wrote:
> >I can't figure out a good work around as of yet.  I really don't want 
> >everyone to hear the clicking.  I believe in keeping your abilities
hidden.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> >Of Carly Mihalakis
> >Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:57 PM
> >To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List; 'Sports and 
> >Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
> >Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder
> >
> >Hi, Jody,
> >
> >In an event that no one has yet answered, you sort of slide your 
> >tongue against the roof of your mouth, in the way that some people 
> >make a little noise while they are absent mindedly, pondering 
> >something. I have successfully made any type of similar sound, 
> >functioning as a sort of tongue click, but a little less obvious, 
> >something that I can only perceive. Play with it, you can use 
> >anything to offer the same feedback about which you are looking 
> >device to offer similar  effects of a tongue click, such as drawing in
some breath between your top teeth.
> >That also works very well in situations where one must be quiet, as 
> >they
>try to navigate.
> >Car
> >
> >
> > >JUSTIN LOUCHART
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:59 PM
> > >To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> > >Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder
> > >
> > >Hi, Jody,
> > >
> > >Ben's echolocation ability was quite good, but by no means unique.
> > >Virtually anyone can learn flash sonar to that degree. It simply 
> > >takes diligence. It's easier than you might think; just most people 
> > >don't ever have training in it.
> > >
> > >Justin Louchart
> > >
> > >On 2/10/13, Jody Ianuzzi <jody at thewhitehats.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I have been offline for a week so this may be old news.  Ben 
> > > > Underwood had a remarkable echolocation ability.
> > > >
> > > > I am sad to say he died a few years ago at only 16 years old.  
> > > > His blindness was caused by cancer of the retina and his eyes 
> > > > were removed when he was 2.
> > > > Unfortunately the cancer returned and he died of brain cancer.
> > > >
> > > > JODY
> > > >
> > > >
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