[Sportsandrec] echo location was blind skateboarder

Fri Feb 15 12:59:57 UTC 2013

I'm confused as to why you want to hide your abilities?     I don't get 
the sense that you are embarrased or that you think it would truly be a 
bother to other people.

Also, doesn't the tap of the cane tip provide a sound from which to use 
for echolocation?  Maybe you've discussed this, I don't know.  Again the 
subject was about skateboarding so I wasn't reading.

Very curiously,
Julie

> Hi, Justin,
>
> Well, do ya think most sighted people will be none the wiser about 
> what you are doing, unless they know what to be listening for? 
> Perhaps, amongst other blind folk, such an ability might be hard to 
> conceal, but relax about your treasure. What's the point of hiding it 
> when, I'm sure you don't see sighted people concealing the fact that, 
> they might be able to ocularly see. For me, seeing without eyes even 
> is a tremendous asset to my travel, in fact to most fasits of 
> mobility, and my life in general.
> Please don't see this as an attack. I'm just befuddled.
> Car 09:24 AM 2/11/2013, justin williams wrote:
>> I can't figure out a good work around as of yet.  I really don't want
>> everyone to hear the clicking.  I believe in keeping your abilities 
>> hidden.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sportsandrec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Carly Mihalakis
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:57 PM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List; 'Sports and
>> Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder
>>
>> Hi, Jody,
>>
>> In an event that no one has yet answered, you sort of slide your tongue
>> against the roof of your mouth, in the way that some people make a  
>> little
>> noise while they are absent mindedly, pondering something. I  have
>> successfully made any type of similar sound, functioning as a sort of 
>> tongue
>> click, but a little less obvious, something that I can only perceive. 
>> Play
>> with it, you can use anything to offer the same feedback about which 
>> you are
>> looking device to offer similar  effects of a tongue click, such as 
>> drawing
>> in some breath between your top teeth. That also works very well in
>> situations where one must be quiet, as they try to navigate.
>> Car
>>
>>
>> >JUSTIN LOUCHART
>> >Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:59 PM
>> >To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> >Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Blind skateboarder
>> >
>> >Hi, Jody,
>> >
>> >Ben's echolocation ability was quite good, but by no means unique.
>> >Virtually anyone can learn flash sonar to that degree. It simply takes
>> >diligence. It's easier than you might think; just most people don't
>> >ever have training in it.
>> >
>> >Justin Louchart
>> >
>> >On 2/10/13, Jody Ianuzzi <jody at thewhitehats.com> wrote:
>> > > Hello all,
>> > >
>> > > I have been offline for a week so this may be old news.  Ben
>> > > Underwood had a remarkable echolocation ability.
>> > >
>> > > I am sad to say he died a few years ago at only 16 years old.  His
>> > > blindness was caused by cancer of the retina and his eyes were
>> > > removed when he was 2.
>> > > Unfortunately the cancer returned and he died of brain cancer.
>> > >
>> > > JODY
>> > >
>> > >
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