[Sportsandrec] A question for you all

[Holly Scott-Gardner]

Hi,

Thanks, I have done already so just waiting for a response.

Holly

On 05/07/2013 18:12, Timothy Clark Music wrote:
> holly
>   ask them why they feel that blind people can't do these tasks.
>   you know the what, but not the why.
>   then take it from there.
>   find a way to work with them and show them what you as a blind person can do.
>   hope this helps.
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> On Jul 5, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Holly Scott-Gardner wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will still be going, it's held in a different country each year and this time it's in the Czech republic, I've never been there before so I think the cultural experience will be very good if nothing else. It's very frustrating and disappointing that the organisers don't see why what they're doing is wrong. They got back to one of the participants saying that blind people couldn't do the activity, which is poor planning on their part seeing as it is a camp for people with varying levels of visual impairment. I will be raising the issue when I get there as well as the emails I have already sent.
>>
>> Audrey, I've been following the convention online and thought the range of activities on offer is really cool. Yes, self-defence is definitely accessible! So I don't understand why they are refusing to acknowledge this fact. I am bothered that they didn't make it clear that we would be separated according to our vision. This isn't the case for all activities but certainly for a fair few. It would have influenced my decision to go had I known that. It's not on their website and it was only because two participants were choosing activities together that we found out.
>>
>> Holly
>>
>> On 05/07/2013 16:26, hannibal8it at aol.com wrote:
>>> Hi Holly;
>>>
>>> I agree.  for such events, it is at least ultimately up to the organizers to complete their due diligence to avoid such situations.
>>> Sounds like they may have taken the path of least resistance, which is disappointing.
>>> I'd show up anyway if it were me, and perhaps provide some reverse-education.
>>> good luck.
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Holly Scott-Gardner <holly.lsg at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 5, 2013 9:55 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] A question for you all
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In general I'd agree with you here, as I have been to places where
>>> someone doesn't know how to work with a blind person, rather than not
>>> wanting to. But most of the people at ICC are either past participants
>>> who are blind or people who work with the blind. For example the person
>>> leading the goalball workshop is a student from the UK who attended in
>>> previous years.
>>>
>>> Also, as the camp is specifically for students who have some kind of
>>> vision problem I would have expected workshop leaders to be prepared.
>>>
>>> Holly
>>>
>>> On 05/07/2013 14:51, Anne Günther wrote:
>>>> Hi Holly
>>>> It's not necessarily the organizers. It's probably the ones who will
>>>> lead the workshop. It's not easy to find folks who will do such
>>>> workshops for free or a fairly cheap price. Most of these people have
>>>> never worked with blind people, so it's possible they can't imagine
>>>> it. I'd advise you to go to the workshop leaders once you're there
>>> and
>>>> talk to them personally. Often enough it's not that they can't
>>> imagine
>>>> blind people learning certain skills. But they can't imagine teaching
>>>> them to blind folks.
>>>> Guenni
>>>>
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