[Sportsandrec] Trainers vs. stationary bikes?

[Joe Shaw]

Thank you sir. This kind of stuff is why you are my favorite.
I sometimes consider asking you off-list, but I figure some others may have 
thought of this and not asked.
I am considering adding in some cycling. I want to be able to fire those 
muscles in real world applications. If I read correctly, you are saying I 
can prepare to have some rides by spinning, sprinting, and climbing hills 
and mountains on the stationary and only grabbing a captain and a two seat 
bike when the opportunity presents itself.
Thanks.
Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelly Thornbury via Sportsandrec" <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List" 
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Cc: "Kelly Thornbury" <kthornbury at bresnan.net>
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Trainers vs. stationary bikes?


> Sorry I'm late to the show dad...
>
> As far as exercise benefits there is no difference, you can get the same 
> intensity out of both.
>
> One advantage to the stationary bikes like the ones you find at the gym is 
> they are a more stable platform, and are better if you do a lot of 
> standing and spinning. You can also get a little more "crazy" in sprints, 
> but !!!WARNING!!! most are direct drive so you can't coast. If you get 
> into an intense spin and have to stop pedaling you have to soft pedal and 
> find the tension knob/brake, and if a foot slips off the pedal stick it 
> way out to the side because there could be enough force there for the 
> pedal to tear up a calf or ankle.
>
> The bike in the trainer will offer you far more adjustability in your 
> positioning. Trainers that use magnetic or wind resistance are noisier 
> typically than fluid-dampened ones, but cheap fluid ones develop leaks; 
> most of the expensive and cheap ones are temperature sensitive (as you 
> ride the fluid heats up and you lose a little resistance); and in really 
> intense loads may cavatate (bubbles in the fluid that cause a loss in 
> resistance, some cheaper models this loss is nearly instant and can cause 
> a stationary bike crash... ask me how I know ;). Some trainers are a 
> "fixed" resistance and some are adjustable (usually the more expensive 
> magnetic ones), but with all of them the faster the wheel is turning the 
> more resistance is produced. If you get a trainer that keeps the rear 
> wheel attached you can expect to eat through rear tires rather quickly. 
> Friction and heat melt them down pretty fast. There are "trainer specific" 
> tires with harder compounds, but I've melted those down fairly quickly as 
> well.
>
> I personally have a wheel off computerized variable resistance trainer (a 
> Wahoo KICKR). More expensive (about $1k), but it allows me to control the 
> resistance from my iPhone, I can program in workouts and it will 
> automatically change resistance at described intervals, and I can download 
> real world rides like ones from the Tour de France and it will simulate 
> the climb inclines and set resistance based on my bike type and body 
> weight... It does a lot of cool [i.e. useless] stuff. It also does FTP 
> (Functional Threashold Power) tests (average watts of power over an hour) 
> and I can create workouts based by test results.
>
> Bikes and trainers are also typically more easily moved and stored if 
> that's an issue. Buying all new the bike and trainer is also the cheaper 
> route, and you can always find a crappy bike in the classified ads... 
> Doesn't need brakes or even good wheels, only needs to shift and pedal.
>
> JS, you know better than to ask me these long winded questions. That was 
> the short answer, the long answer is...
>
> The workouts intensities are the same.
>
> Thre's a whole lot more, if you're into "the numbers" (power output, heart 
> rate, cadence and speed, blah blah blah nerd exercise science stuff), but 
> this is already a novel...
> Kelly
>
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Joe Shaw via Sportsandrec wrote:
>
>> Hey kids,
>> Tell me the differences in putting a bike on a training platform and 
>> riding a stationary bike. I'm curious if the exercise benefit is the same 
>> or similar? Are they close or completely different?
>> Thanks,
>> Joe Shaw, Nashville
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