[Sportsandrec] Trainers vs. stationary bikes?

Tue Jun 9 01:32:13 UTC 2015

Kelly is awesome!
I agree and will be asking more soon as I am transitioning my diet and 
training soon.
J
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rachel Kuntz via Sportsandrec" <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
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Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Trainers vs. stationary bikes?


>I for one am thrilled you asked on list and that Kelly was kind enough to 
>offer his expertise. I wish there were more fitness related conversations 
>going on.
>
> Rachel. Cincinnati.
>
>> On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Joe Shaw via Sportsandrec 
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you sir. This kind of stuff is why you are my favorite.
>> I sometimes consider asking you off-list, but I figure some others may 
>> have thought of this and not asked.
>> I am considering adding in some cycling. I want to be able to fire those 
>> muscles in real world applications. If I read correctly, you are saying I 
>> can prepare to have some rides by spinning, sprinting, and climbing hills 
>> and mountains on the stationary and only grabbing a captain and a two 
>> seat bike when the opportunity presents itself.
>> Thanks.
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Thornbury via Sportsandrec" 
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
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>> Cc: "Kelly Thornbury" <kthornbury at bresnan.net>
>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 7:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Trainers vs. stationary bikes?
>>
>>
>>> Sorry I'm late to the show dad...
>>>
>>> As far as exercise benefits there is no difference, you can get the same 
>>> intensity out of both.
>>>
>>> One advantage to the stationary bikes like the ones you find at the gym 
>>> is they are a more stable platform, and are better if you do a lot of 
>>> standing and spinning. You can also get a little more "crazy" in 
>>> sprints, but !!!WARNING!!! most are direct drive so you can't coast. If 
>>> you get into an intense spin and have to stop pedaling you have to soft 
>>> pedal and find the tension knob/brake, and if a foot slips off the pedal 
>>> stick it way out to the side because there could be enough force there 
>>> for the pedal to tear up a calf or ankle.
>>>
>>> The bike in the trainer will offer you far more adjustability in your 
>>> positioning. Trainers that use magnetic or wind resistance are noisier 
>>> typically than fluid-dampened ones, but cheap fluid ones develop leaks; 
>>> most of the expensive and cheap ones are temperature sensitive (as you 
>>> ride the fluid heats up and you lose a little resistance); and in really 
>>> intense loads may cavatate (bubbles in the fluid that cause a loss in 
>>> resistance, some cheaper models this loss is nearly instant and can 
>>> cause a stationary bike crash... ask me how I know ;). Some trainers are 
>>> a "fixed" resistance and some are adjustable (usually the more expensive 
>>> magnetic ones), but with all of them the faster the wheel is turning the 
>>> more resistance is produced. If you get a trainer that keeps the rear 
>>> wheel attached you can expect to eat through rear tires rather quickly. 
>>> Friction and heat melt them down pretty fast. There are "trainer 
>>> specific" tires with harder compounds, but I've melted those down fairly 
>>> quickly as well.
>>>
>>> I personally have a wheel off computerized variable resistance trainer 
>>> (a Wahoo KICKR). More expensive (about $1k), but it allows me to control 
>>> the resistance from my iPhone, I can program in workouts and it will 
>>> automatically change resistance at described intervals, and I can 
>>> download real world rides like ones from the Tour de France and it will 
>>> simulate the climb inclines and set resistance based on my bike type and 
>>> body weight... It does a lot of cool [i.e. useless] stuff. It also does 
>>> FTP (Functional Threashold Power) tests (average watts of power over an 
>>> hour) and I can create workouts based by test results.
>>>
>>> Bikes and trainers are also typically more easily moved and stored if 
>>> that's an issue. Buying all new the bike and trainer is also the cheaper 
>>> route, and you can always find a crappy bike in the classified ads... 
>>> Doesn't need brakes or even good wheels, only needs to shift and pedal.
>>>
>>> JS, you know better than to ask me these long winded questions. That was 
>>> the short answer, the long answer is...
>>>
>>> The workouts intensities are the same.
>>>
>>> Thre's a whole lot more, if you're into "the numbers" (power output, 
>>> heart rate, cadence and speed, blah blah blah nerd exercise science 
>>> stuff), but this is already a novel...
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Joe Shaw via Sportsandrec wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey kids,
>>>> Tell me the differences in putting a bike on a training platform and 
>>>> riding a stationary bike. I'm curious if the exercise benefit is the 
>>>> same or similar? Are they close or completely different?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Joe Shaw, Nashville
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