[Sportsandrec] Zumba?

Mon Jul 18 17:56:16 UTC 2016

Bill,

You've brought this full-circle, and to a topic which the list might
find useful. Part of sports and recreation is acknowledging your
responsibilities as a participant. It's actually been one of my
regrets. I've had several running guides who I, frankly, was using
without even realizing it. Taking responsibility for my own
participation  was a lesson I had to learn the hard way. What are some
recommendations you have for making sure that we're being equal
partners in activities rather than accidentally taking advantage?

Warmth,
J

On 7/18/16, Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Bridgit no sorrys. You are making a good point.  This may get me kicked off
> this list but the can has been opened up so I am going to rant on one of my
> pet pieves.  As I have previously mentioned I teach a few fitness classes
> at
> the local Lighthouse.  Because of a kids summer camp they offer there
> became
> a space issue and I was looking to relocate one of my classes.  I had three
> people tell me they would not continue because their transportation to and
> from the LH was covered but if we went somewhere else they would have to
> pay.  Two of them actually tole me I should pay for their rides.  I should
> pay for the pleasure of teaching them???which I don't get paid for
> myself???
> I have seen a sense of entitlement in many people that I find very
> frustrating.  I have had people ask me to work with them privately and I
> try
> to be very flexable with the cost as I understand limited incomes and
> adding
> the cost of transportation to the mix but they actually expect me to give
> them my time for free.
>
> I will not deny that I have taken advantage of services offered to me by
> the
> state and I am thankful for that help.  But when it gets to a point that
> people don't want to pay for anything and actually expect everything to be
> given to them for free, well that's just out of hand.  I have actually had
> sevral of my students go to DBS and ask for talking scales. Surprised they
> didn't ask for workout clothes while they were at it.
> End of mini rant.
> Bill
> Bill Kociaba
> www.kociaba-fitness.com
> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via SportsandRec
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 12:32 PM
> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Zumba?
>
> No, you're right. And yes, many times we have a few extra steps to
> accomplishing something, like an exercise class, that sighted people don't.
> There is a fine line and a balance, and it's up to the individual to
> determine what is best for them.
>
> I'm just in a mood today, smile. But I do think we sometimes expect certain
> things without first just trying. We all do it, me included. My grad school
> is paid for by a rehab agency, and I've also received scholarships because
> I'm blind. So...
>
> Sorry for the tangent. I know I sound judgey, not my intention, just a
> question posed wrong.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of J
> Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:22 AM
> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: J Steele-Louchart <jsteelelouchart at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Zumba?
>
> Bridgit,
>
> On one hand, sighted people don't have to take additional classes to learn
> what they can learn by watching. On the other hand, it does seem that true
> equality means being willing to do the hard work to get there.
>
> But then again, I took a college scholarship awarded for nothing more than
> my blindness, I accepted SSI rather than working a part-time job, and
> sometimes I take rides from friends because I don't feel like paying a
> driver. So do I really believe that, or does it just make me feel good to
> be
> right? I guess I don't know where I draw the line.
>
> Warmth,
> J
>
>
> On 7/18/16, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via SportsandRec
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Not to be "that person," but why do we always suggest entities that
>> can possibly fund our endeavors? Sighted people don't have places
>> willing to pay for exercise, so why should we expect it? If you want
>> to participate in exercise of any kind, just do it. If along the way
>> someone offers financial assistance, great, but why do we always make
>> it our first priority?
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Michelle Ouellet via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:09 AM
>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Michelle Ouellet <ydnest at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Zumba?
>>
>> I agree this is a good approach as well Advertising on Craig's list
>> for an instructor (local) might work Also checking with state re-hab
>> offices (will they pay for this? ) or some health care providers pay
>> for preventative exercise classes.....Where there is a will there is a
>> way
> !
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Kociaba Fitness <kociabafitness at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 11:56 am
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Zumba?
>>
>> Contacting the co.s would be a total waste of time and energy. In
>> spite of them being trademarked fitness programs virtually every
>> instructor will modify moves, sequence, level of intensity etc.  The
>> easiest and likely most effective thing would be to speak to the
>> instructor privately and perhaps arrange a couple private classes to
>> learn the moves as well as to "teach"
>> the instructor to be more verbal with his/her cues so you can keep up.
>> You may have to pay for those private lessons but that might be
>> something you can resolve with the fitness center manigement.
>> Remember instructors are payed by the class so in their case time is
> money.
>>
>> Bill Kociaba
>> www.kociaba-fitness.com
>> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Michelle via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:34 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Cc: Michelle
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Zumba?
>>
>> Zumba and jazzercize are very difficult to follow as questions are
>> visual.
>> Both companies should be contacted to arrange for accommodations.
>>
>> Michelle.
>> Thoughts are things.  Make them good ones!!
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:18 PM, maryjane via SportsandRec
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I also would like to know that too. Also where can I get the music to
>>> the zomba fitness core
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Kris F via SportsandRec
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:14 PM
>>> To: sportsandrec at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: foleyforever at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Zumba?
>>>
>>> How does a blind person follow what is going on in Zumba?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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