[Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: Stairmaster

Wed Jul 27 23:07:55 UTC 2016

Ashley,

The "situation" was not between Bill and me.

You can label flatscreen equipment. I have an elliptical that has a
flatscreen panel, and I just have Braille labels where the buttons are. Now
touch screens, that's another story. Sometimes you can create custom
templates with sighted help, but it depends on how complicated the menus
are.

Bridgit

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Hello,
I did not see any arguing either; just a strong difference of opinion
between Bridgit and Bill.
Personally, I share Bill's concerns regarding a standing desk treadmill. It
seems a bit dangerous to multi task doing office work like typing and
walking. Besides, I believe  one should exercise and have their mind and
body in it. Enjoy the workout and listen to your body.
But, if a blind person has tried and used one successfully, then go ahead. I
would just say that it might be more effective to set asside time to just
work out.

As for the stair master, I cannot recommend anything. All stair masters I've
seen are flat screens so you will not know where buttons are.
I suppose labeling start, stop and speeds might help, but I think you'd want
sighted help to read the display unless you have low vision.

I'm curious also to know about accessible stair masters.

Ashley

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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via SportsandRec
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Sharing opinions and exchanging views is not the same as arguing.

Bridgit

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J,
Did not see any form of arguing.
tom

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Bill,

I certainly didn't mean to argue, only to point out that arguing doesn't
help people to be any healthier. I'm always concerned that people throw the
baby out with the bathwater when it comes to things like this. It's easy to
say, "This is why it's wrong," but much harder to say, "Maybe it's better
than the current alternative."

Warmth,
J

On 7/26/16, Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> J.
> In all due respect, it seems to me that you want to argue over this 
> and that's not my intention so I will say no more about it
>
>
> Bill Kociaba
> www.kociaba-fitness.com
> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of J Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 9:40 AM
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> Cc: J Steele-Louchart
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: Stairmaster
>
> Bill,
>
> I see where you're coming from. Still, it seems to me that each of 
> those very valid complaints would belong to those who use the 
> equipment, not those of us who don't. After all, how can we possibly 
> know that something is too expensive, takes too much of our attention, 
> or inherently ruins bodies through bad form for people who experience 
> other financial situations, other neurological frameworks, and have 
> bodies other than our own?
>
> Personally, I'd much rather applaud people for getting up and moving 
> at all.
> It's a lot easier to do nothing.
>
> J
>
>
>
> On 7/26/16, Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> Good morning J,
>> Honestly, no I haven't and what you are saying is quite possibly true 
>> but on some level it just seems very wrong and potentially dangerous 
>> to me...lets not even consider the cost involved on a financial level.
>>
>>
>> Bill Kociaba
>> www.kociaba-fitness.com
>> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of J Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:26 AM
>> To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List
>> Cc: J Steele-Louchart
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: Stairmaster
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Good morning. Have you actually tried a treadmill desk for a week or two?
>>
>> I bet the brain adapts pretty quickly to walking while working.
>> Especially at slow speeds. Walking is a pretty basic neurological 
>> function with virtually no cognitive or perceptual load.
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/16, Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec 
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Standing desks in both schools and offices are something I have 
>>> heard about a lot recently and with all the research about sitting 
>>> for extended periods of time being a big negative the concept looks 
>>> interesting but the idea of a treadmill desk is just insane! First 
>>> there is the cost and second as your mind gets deeply involved in 
>>> your work you run the risk of injuring yourself by, well forgetting 
>>> to walk.  Also your ability to focus on your work seems like it 
>>> would be compromised by having to be awaire of having to walk.
>>> It's
>>> a kind of multi tasking that seems very bad to me.  About a year ago 
>>> I Interviewed Kelly Starrett who along with has wife is one of the 
>>> big proponents of the standing desks and they have done a lot to 
>>> promote the concept in the san franscisco school system.  We got on 
>>> the subject of the treadmill desk and he got very intense about how
> "stupid"
>> an idea it was.
>>> Re little stepper gadgets, the  one of the problems with virtually 
>>> every stairmaster type gadget is that you can just get into a 
>>> pattern of shifting your weight and kind of bouncing back and 
>>> forth...its no where near as effective as just climbing stairs.
>>>
>>> Bill Kociaba
>>> www.kociaba-fitness.com
>>> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis via SportsandRec
>>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:17 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: Stairmaster
>>>
>>> Good morning, Tom,
>>>
>>> Yeah, I guess that treadmill attached to your desk is like a 
>>> cutting-edge thing, you, too, can be a hipster. 12:43 PM 7/24/2016, 
>>> you
>> wrote:
>>>>I recently saw something that I was considering.  It is very low 
>>>>tech and inexpensive.  I would guess less then a $100 at a store 
>>>>called big
>>>>5 sporting goods.  They have general, lower priced items.  It was 
>>>>maybe a foot high and had room for 2 feet and some hydraulics I 
>>>>think you could adjust for ease or difficulty, but there are no 
>>>>screens and just the 2 feet where you go up and down in place.  Then 
>>>>easily put it
>> away.
>>>>Thought pretty cool and easy.  I found it because I was looking at 
>>>>something else, which seems to be the new way in the office.  A slow 
>>>>paced tread mill desk for maybe $800-41200.  You can adjust the desk 
>>>>up and down and the treadmill with few speeds is below.
>>>>I don't know the names of the items, yet the description will help.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Steve & Shannon Cook via SportsandRec
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:46 AM
>>>>To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>>>>Cc: Steve & Shannon Cook
>>>>Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: Stairmaster
>>>>
>>>>That would be fine if transportation wasn't an issue.
>>>>
>>>>Steve and Shannon Cook
>>>>Steve on Dice World: Steve6009
>>>>Steve on Twitter: @SteveCook67
>>>>Today I married my best friend.
>>>>The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Robert Moore via SportsandRec
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 2:29 PM
>>>>To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>>>>Cc: Robert Moore
>>>>Subject: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: Stairmaster
>>>>
>>>>Go to any multy story building.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Steve & Shannon Cook via SportsandRec
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:07 AM
>>>>To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>>>>Cc: Steve & Shannon Cook
>>>>Subject: [Sportsandrec] Stairmaster
>>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone know of a Stairmaster that is accessible to use?
>>>>
>>>>Steve Cook
>>>>Steve on Dice World: Steve6009
>>>>Steve on Twitter: @SteveCook67
>>>>Today I married my best friend.
>>>>The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
>>>>October 11, 2003
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