[Sportsandrec] Not Just Board Games
Robert Moore
robertjmoore at embarqmail.com
Fri Nov 18 04:27:53 UTC 2016
Nella
I did run a marathon when I was just out of high school.
Only reason I ran it was no one bothered to tell me that I could not or should not. Some people are into running them over and over but for me one time was plenty. Don't get me wrong I am glad that I did. Actually I ran it mostly because I like a good chalange and I ran cross country in school and when the coach invited us all whoever wanted to go, I went because I was sure I could finnish and knew that if I passed that up that I would never run another one and would live to regret it. It only took me 4 hours and 20 minutes to find the finnish line. I actually felt pretty good about that being my first and only time out.
I probably ran it in less time than that because I sware it took five minutes or more to get to the starting line because we had probably 3,000 people backed up behind one line the width of a two lane road. First timers got to go to the back of the line.
My brother always says
If you think you can you are probably right if you think you can't your probably right.
Let us all know how you do at the Boston marathon. OK just kidding.
Robert
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I admire those who have the drive and desire to do a marathon. It is something that I have no interest in trying.
Nella
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No one does finish a marathon without conditioning first and running smaller runs beforehand. You might surprise yourself.
Cindy
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Ok I feel like a real under achiever now. I can't even imagine running a marathon. I'm sure I would finish in a body bag. I'm also sure there are better ways to die. Lol
Congratulations.
Nella
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Hey Gaston,
I too just completed the New York City Marathon with the Achilles chapter here in Nashville. We shaved fourty minutes off our time from last year. I love it.
I also am active in my local Crossfit gym. I love it also.
Be well.
Joe Shaw, Nashville TN
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> Here's the thing. Blind or sighted, it's up to an individual whether
> they want to exercise or not. Many people are over weight, not just
> blind people. We can't force people to get up and move; they have to
> decide to make it a priority. I think the people on this list
> demonstrate that blind people are out there living the lives they
> want, showing the world that we do things just like everyone else.
>
> The triathlon my husband and I participate in this summer was
> sponsored by a local doctor who wants to encourage sports for blind
> people. Initially, about 15 people expressed interest, pretty much all
> of them wanting to lose weight and get into better shape. As time went
> on, everyone but 3 of us dropped out. Everything was provided for us
> at no cost to us. Guides, uniforms, running shoes, gym memberships,
> triathlon registration- anything we required for training and the
> event was taken care of. Yet 12 people dropped out for various
> reasons. Most said it was because they were not capable of it, others
> said they did not want to make certain changes to lifestyle and diet.
> An opportunity was presented and they did not take advantage of it. This says a lot.
>
> But I know several sighted people like this too. They just don't make
> it a priority, don't care about it. So it's not just a blind thing.
>
> Bridgit
>
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> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Peter Donahue via SportsandRec
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 4:41 PM
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> Cc: Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Not Just Board Games
>
> Hello Robert and everyone,
>
> Board games have their place. The point is that they should not be
> the only recreational activities the blind do in their spare time let
> alone trying to get in shape and stay in shape. We need to put as much
> enthusiasm into playing at Pebble Beach as much as we visit the local
> bingo parlar.
>
> When I attended summer camp we enjoyed playing checkers as well as
> sailing, horse back riding, canoeing, hiking, archery, and all the rest.
> There needs to be a balance or aerobic (Swimming for example) and
> anaerobic sports in one's life such as playing Chess. Board games have
> their place but they grow old after a while when they're shoved down
> one's throat. Then family and friends wonder why some of us are over weight.
>
> Peter Donahue who is ready to Canoe the Boundary Waters Canoe Area
> Wilderness. Minnesotans on this list take note.
> Robert Moore via SportsandRec wrote:
>> Peter, I dis agree about burning the board games. My reason is,
>> that they are a great way to relax and unwind after a day of rock
>> climbing or after finishing a marathon.
>> Actually it would be an interesting excesize to attempt to compile
>> an exhaustive list of sports that the blind have participated in.
>> We have even participated in motor sports as drivers
>> Someone please correct me if I am wrong but it seams to me that a
>> world record blind person land speed record has been set on a motor
>> cycle. The fastest a blind person went on driving a motor cycle is
>> probably faster than I am interested in going on a motor cycle if I
>> had perfect eye site.
>> I do not know any more than that or I would give details.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Peter Donahue via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:37 PM
>> To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'
>> Cc: Peter Donahue
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Sports Done by the Blind but not
>> Discussed
>>
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>> I neglected to mention rock climbing, white water rafting and
>> kayaking and skydiving. Blind individuals and students attending the
>> NFB training centers have done all of the above-mentioned sports.
>>
>> Peter Donahue who says "Burn the board games and let's get moving!"
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:45 AM
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>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] Sports Done by the Blind but not
>> Discussed
>>
>> Great ideas. Definitely should be explored.
>>
>> Since I've joined this list, I've heard several people speak about
>> their sports and rec experiences- definitely not board games, smile.
>>
>> I did a triathlon this past summer and plan to do it next year. I
>> swim weekly and do yoga. Many people on this list have shared similar
>> experiences. My husband, who is also blind, did the triathlon too,
>> and we received media coverage in all our local media outlets.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Peter Donahue via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:19 AM
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>> Cc: Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Sports Done by the Blind but not Discussed
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>> Speaking of starting conversations blind people have participated in
>> many sports and recreational activities over the years but some of
>> these pursuits are hardly ever discussed here. Golf is one such
>> example. The United States Blind Golf Association has been around for
>> years but we never hear of successful blind golfers. The sport seems
>> laid back at first but it's a test of concentration, strategy,
>> endurance, and patience! It would be nice to hear from blind golfers.
>>
>> And speaking of golf the PGA and the LPGA raise funds for many
>> organizations. Many of the golf tournaments aired on stations like
>> "The Golf Channel" are held to benefit this or that charity. In
>> addition individual golfers raise funds for various charities in the
>> form of contributions from their earnings. One would think that by
>> now someone in the NFB and in particular this division would have
>> explored the idea of a golf tournament being established to raise
>> funds for the NFB and to promote the sport among the blind by
>> including blind golfers in the tournament. This is something this
>> division should explore. Such a project should be a team effort and
>> should not be handed to one person to bring it about. There are
>> probably other types of sporting activities and tournaments that
>> could be organized to benefit the NFB and in particular this division.
>>
>> Blind people have hunted, fished, skied,participated in rodeos and
>> other animal-related sports and recreational activities, canoed,
>> sailed, participate in rowing and other boating contests, the list goes on.
>> Here's hoping this note will spawn discussions of these activities
>> and how these opportunities can be expanded to encourage the blind to
>> participate, and reep the benefit of increased physical activities. I
>> have yet to learn how just playing board games helps one keep in shape.
>> This seems to be the only recreational activity we hear about being
>> done by the blind in San Antonio and throughout the country. Let the
>> discussion begin.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Ron Burzese via SportsandRec
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:03 AM
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>> Cc: Ron Burzese
>> Subject: [Sportsandrec] Fwd: Riding by faith, not by sight.
>>
>> As I forward this, said burrito is crisping in the skillet.
>>
>> Since this list is quiet, I thought I’d throw this out there. If any
>> of the bike speak is unclear, let me know. If any of you ride, I’d
>> love your submissions for the blind, cycling list.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ron Burzese, NOMC
>> 37 degrees in Sacramento
>>
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: Ron Burzese <rrburzese at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Riding by faith, not by sight.
>>> Date: November 16, 2016 at 10:16:30 PM PST
>>> To: blind_cycling at yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>> Taylor, one of the guys from a weekly men’s Bible study, offered to
>>> ride with me this week. I had forgotten that I even mentioned it to
>>> him. We met this morning, at 7:30. The temp was around 46f. Since he
>>> was a casual rider at best, I dressed accordingly, with jeans,
>>> t-shirt, walking shoes, and a windbreaker that I’ve had since I was
>>> 13, in Clearwater, 1981. It bears the name of my departed father’s
>>> pizza place, which has been in our family, since 1969. I chose it
>>> because it was the right weight for the conditions. Though I might
>>> not always mention it here, I always wear a helmet.
>>>
>>> I brought out the urban-assault tandem, which is currently set up
>>> for my lovely girlfriend, who is 5’4”. Now Taylor, is at least 5’8,
>>> if not 5’10, or taller. I mentioned that we’d need to raise his
>>> saddle, as I held him up, from the back seat. He asked me to lower
>>> it, though my neighbor, Billy and I tried to briefly explain the
>>> mechanics of a proper pedal-stroke. He wanted no part of it, so I
>>> let him set the lower height.
>>>
>>> In the second block, he moved over to the bike lane, for the
>>> west-bound traffic. We, were traveling east-bound, if you know what I’m sayin’.
>>> Hearing the parked cars, close to my left ear, then oncoming
>>> traffic, on my right, was very disconcerting to me. I even heard
>>> other cyclists passing us, on our right. Seasoned cyclist that I am,
>>> I was like, so embarrassed, and fearing for my life, as I asked
>>> Taylor to cross-over to the right side of the road. He tried to
>>> defend his logic, but I would not budge on this point. He looked
>>> back and merged right, across at least two lanes. As he began to
>>> initiate the merge, he clipped my freshly rubberized handle bar-end,
>>> on a trash canister, since it was garbage truck day. He thought the
>>> front tire was squishy, but I explained that it was simply the
>>> suspension fork, compressing beneath his weight.
>>>
>>> After going east on T Street, we headed north, on 20th Street. A
>>> classy female cyclist, complimented us on the tandem, so I gave her
>>> a squeak with my kitty-cat horn, before reaching C Street, where we
>>> caught the access trail, over the river, to the American River Bike
>>> Trail, headed for William Pond Park. We settled into a nice cadence
>>> and I was happy that I picked the correct layers for the ride. There
>>> were lots of dried leaves, crunching under our wheels. Taylor is a
>>> seminary student, so was discussing theology with me. I have studied
>>> for many years, so was an appropriate sounding board for what he was
>>> wrestling with, in his spiritual journey. We were cordial the entire
>>> time, though we were discussing some of the most controversial systematic theology.
>>>
>>> As we motored along, I could not help but get ahold of the
>>> beautiful, Fall day that embraced all of us, on the trail. We both
>>> agreed that every man is without excuse, as the Creation bore
>>> witness of the Creator. I also noticed that Taylor, 28, was looking
>>> back at me, as he was talking. Not quite, but he was looking off to
>>> his side, to better project his voice. Though thoughtful, I had my
>>> moments of wanting to remind him to pay more attention to his
>>> driving. However, he did a good job to do just that, every time I
>>> was about to say something. Maybe something in my facial expression
>>> tipped him off? We only went off the trail, a few times, but quickly
>>> got back on to the pavement, over the ridge. Yes, that would be the
>>> dangerous ridge that I did not yet have time to explain to this
>>> novice pilot. Thankfully, my tires were meaty enough to offer some margin for error.
>>>
>>> We made it to the park and I was really missing my girlfriend, as we
>>> found a picnic table, off from the trail. We sat for an hour,
>>> discussing more of his theological issues. I did not mind, though it
>>> challenged me to recall what I have studied, both in the past and
>>> more recently, on my own personal journey with the living God. I
>>> kept up with most of the depth that he was digging, but since I had
>>> a minimal breakfast, consisting of a few handfuls of corn flakes,
>>> and another appointment for lunch, I motioned that we began our return trip.
>>>
>>> Wouldn’t you know it, that crazy dude went back to his habit of
>>> riding on the wrong side of the road? He got back in line, after I
>>> reminded him. At the park, I clarified my reasoning for this, but
>>> did not mention my years of experience on the bike. I could tell
>>> that he was appreciating the opportunity to spend some quality time
>>> with another brotha, especially one who could spar with him on such a level of topic.
>>>
>>> In the closing mile, he noted that it made him feel more comfortable
>>> that I was blind. He said that it helped him open up, confess and be
>>> vulnerable. From the back seat, I smiled, being thankful for being
>>> able to counsel the man in his struggle. I felt as if I was where I
>>> needed to be, at the right time. We stopped at his truck, as I
>>> collected my residential parking permit, then shared our stats from
>>> the ride of 26.5 miles. He drove off and there I was, realizing that
>>> I was around the corner from my place, without my cane, and walking an 8-foot long bike.
>>> From our three-hours of theology, I knew I was in good company and
>>> resumed enjoying the glorious weather, then in the lower mid 60s.
>>> Though I did not have much time, I was able to efficiently move out
>>> the electric tandem, bring in the urban tandem, re-park the 80-pound
>>> electric bike, and keep track of all the accessories that accompany
>>> a bike ride. After a quick shower, I walked 20 blocks to my on time,
>>> lunch appointment, with Pastor Lamar, who already ate. Happy to have
>>> the time with him, I forgot about my hunger, for the next 90
>>> minutes. Another 20 block walk home, still not eating since 7:15, I
>>> stopped for a 2:30, California Chicken Burrito, but only ate half.
>>> Instead of eating the other half for dinner, I just had another few handfuls of corn flakes.
>>> As I write this, I must confess that I am looking forward to
>>> breakfast, already. It will be a cool morning, in the low 40s, but a
>>> hot, cast iron skillet, will make that burrito taste even better
>>> than fresh from its maker. I’ll be back on the hamster wheel, but
>>> you know, life, is all good, with me.
>>>
>>> Racramento Ron
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