[Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland

Chris Tabb christabb at me.com
Thu Feb 23 00:23:52 UTC 2017


Ashley,
You can learn more about Marty Klein and the program he has at his website for Blind Yoga, http://blindyoga.net


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On February 22, 2017 at 17:57:25, Ashley Bramlett via SportsandRec (sportsandrec at nfbnet.org) wrote:

who is Marty Klein and where can I buy his stuff?  
I might try that if it seems affordable although I still really prefer a  
group class or a personal trainer.  

I still think you are better off working with someone who knows how to  
exercise. If you know the moves and just need a reminder of them and a  
routine to do them, then workout audio stuff would be okay. I just think  
that novices might need hands on instruction so as to be corrected in form  
and perform exercises safely and effectively.  
I know how to do exercises for the stomach/abbs area but I wish I knew how  
to exercise my back. When I can get someone to show me, I will learn.  
I grew up vision impaired and there was just some things I never grasped in  
PE class despite some hands on guidance from my aid and sometimes my  
mobility teacher. One of those things is how to do good push ups.  
So, maybe I'll learn that someday one on one. There is our gym at the  
community college and I think they offer some one on one instruction time  
for new bys and I might try that.  

Bill, I commend your efforts to teach a fitness class for blind people. I  
wish our lighthouse offered such a thing; that is the columbia lighthouse  
for the blind in DC. I would guess that the percentage of active blind  
people is low but I'm not sure its due to laziness. Maybe those in your  
class faded off because group fitness was not for them or they felt it did  
not meet their needs. You never know with people.  



Ashley  



-----Original Message-----  
From: Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec  
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 4:32 PM  
To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'  
Cc: Kociaba Fitness  
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland  

Hi cindy,  
Mel has produced some good stuff as did Marty Klein, the guy who put  
together the beginning yoga for the blind CD set. I don't know how well  
Mel's stuff sells but I have to say I was very disappointed to see how poor  
a response I got when I was promoting creating custom follow along workout  
audio files. I offered them at a very reasonable fee as I know many of us  
are on limited budgets but I still got a surprisingly small bit of response.  
It seems to me that the number of blind people who actually want to be  
active is a pretty small percentage. I have been doing group fitness classes  
at the local Lighthouse for a little over a year now and have a loyal(small  
but loyal) following. I got a big crowd in the beginning but when people  
realized we were actually going to do a workout the majority faded away.  
They wanted to talk about exercise and better eating but when I asked them  
to not have any food or drinks in the class and we actually got up and  
started doing something the crowd thinned out substantially. Funny thing is  
my most consistant people are in their 70s and 80s. and they work their  
butts off. They make it worthwhile for me.  

By the way, teaching a group fitness class to a group of blind people can be  
a great workout in itself as I have to literly go around the room and  
physically monoter and correct everyone. And by the time I am done I am  
usually sweating as much as the rest of them.Its a challenge to say the  
least but I love it.  
Bill  


Bill Kociaba  
www.kociaba-fitness.com  
"Building Better Bodies Since 1981"  


-----Original Message-----  
From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of  
Cindy Ray via SportsandRec  
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 4:04 PM  
To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'  
Cc: Cindy Ray  
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland  

One could check out Bline Alive. Mel Scott has created that company in order  
to create described exercise routines. After you learned to do them well  
enough, it would be easy to join some fitness groups. I have a personal  
trainer, but that is expensive. I had another trainer once when studying  
Pilates, and when I got to a place where I had decent form, I was able to  
join the class.  
Cindy  


-----Original Message-----  
From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of  
Ashley Bramlett via SportsandRec  
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:26 PM  
To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List  
<sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>  
Cc: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>  
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland  

Hello,  
I agree the critisisms are sad and not warranted. I'll just chalk up the  
bad talk up to some people having a bad day.  

Bill, yes this list is to support those pursuing sports and active  
recreation.  
Generally, it is fine.  

Now to the original question, unfortunately I cannot think of a blind  
fitness group in MD. I think this is rather common. I wish there were more  
fitness classes and activities offered for our needs. I suppose this is not  
the case due to the low incidence of blindness. I found it impossible to  
follow most fitness classes. I have some central vision but still the  
movement is too fast to see and replicate and most instructors are not  
verbal enough. I have had success in a spinning class. Oh, also, a  
meditation class. But that is about it.  

To the person asking about sports in MD, I'd suggest getting a group  
together and just doing something. Of course it will require some sighted  
help for guides but something could be organized.  
I would like to offer you two ideas close to MD though which might be  
helpful and you can participate provided the commute is doable. If you can  
ride the Washington metro rail, you can get to DC.  

First, the Washington association of Blind Athletes sponsors activities.  
They have yoga every so often at some DC library; I think its Petworth. My  
friend who is totally blind participated and he said it worked great. They  
describe the poses and they had volunteers available to give hands on help  
if needed.  

Another resource is the Columbia lighthouse for the blind. CLB might sponsor  
some fitness stuff; I'm not sure.  
Finally, you might want to check with your independent living center to see  
if they offer something.  

Hope this helps.  
Ashley  
-----Original Message-----  
From: Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec  
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:20 AM  
To: 'Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List'  
Cc: Kociaba Fitness  
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland  

No this is VERY VERY SAD!!!  
This is supposed to be a place to exchange ideas and support each other. At  
least that's what I thought when I signed up.  
I realize that you are obviously much smarter than the rest of us and you  
feel a huge need to point out that "fact".  
The conten I thought we stopped getting graded and corrected when we  
completed English class.  
And I am sure something in this email is incorrect but please keep the  
correction to yourself Billt of our posts, what we are saying, should be  
more important than weather or not every letter, cap or bit of punctuation  
is correct.  
Bill Kociaba  
www.kociaba-fitness.com  
"Building Better Bodies Since 1981"  


-----Original Message-----  
From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of  
Danielle Ledet via SportsandRec  
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 9:38 PM  
To: Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List  
Cc: Danielle Ledet  
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland  

This. is. laughable! Here's another one for you; constructive. The teacher  
in me coming out. How do you all expect folks to understand your messages if  
you do not erm, refuse to spell your wording correctly, or even use the  
proper words? WE ARE NOT TEXTING HERE!Is this anything and everything goes?  
Or are there children writing in?  
God bless your stupidity!  

On 2/18/17, Joe Shaw via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:  
> Someone in Baltimore could call the National Center 410-659-9314 or  
> BISM  
> 410-737-2600 and see if they've anything going on locally.  
> Joe Shaw  
> ----- Original Message -----  
> From: "GL Norman via SportsandRec" <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>  
> To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"  
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>  
> Cc: "GL Norman" <glnorman15 at hotmail.com>  
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 5:41 PM  
> Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] [Portlander] Fitness in Maryland  
>  
>  
>> Peter, I reside here in Maryland; applauding this perspective.  
>>  
>> Let us chat some point offline.  
>>  
>> A resource is Baltimore Recreation and Sports. Although I have the  
>> sense that their orientation is to mobility related disabilities.  
>>  
>> A team sport, which I would enjoy observing formed, perhaps playing a  
>> hand  
>>  
>> in the forming, is a beeper baseball team.  
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