[Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: body mass index and charting progress

Sun Feb 26 15:26:56 UTC 2017

I haven't been following this thread, but before this gets way out of hand… Body mass index has nothing to do with body composition, which is body fat, which is what you measure with the calipers. Body mass index is a statistical analysis, a mathematical computation, based solely on height and weight… The equation is

Mass in kilograms divided by height in meters squared.

Body mass index was never intended as a analysis of health for an individual, it is a community, or social group analysis. Insurance companies got the brilliant idea of using body mass index is the determination of health, but in the following example…

A bodybuilder who is 6 foot tall and weighs 220 pounds with a 3% body fat is not the same as a 6 foot tall, 220 pound couch potato with a 50% body fat. But there BMI, or body mass index, will be the same.

Kellee

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> On Feb 26, 2017, at 07:49, Nella Foster via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bill are there other ways of figuring out one's body mass index besides using those pinchy things?
> 
> This is another thing we did in fitness classes in college and maybe there are new and better ways of doing it now.
> 
> I'm sure I don't want to know my weight or body mass index.  It would only be depressing.
> 
> How do the rest of you monitor your progress?
> 
> Do you use your weight, heart rate BMI or just go on how the workouts are feeling?
> 
> Also when do you know it is time to step up the workouts?
> 
> Sorry if these are stupid questions; it's been years since I've been able to workout and I've forgotten a lot.  I used to know a lot of this, but time and bad health has taken it's toll on my mind and body. Lol
> 
> Nella
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> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kociaba Fitness via SportsandRec
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> Subject: [Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: accessible heartrate monitor? was Re: aerobic workout
> 
> Hay Ron,
> Wow man you were in some amazing shape.  Maybe not at that level any more but I am sure you are in far better condition than most.
> Re the target heart rate, The 220 minus your age was the standard for a long time but there are a few other formulas.  II am guessing there were far too many people like Ron who wereen't challenged at all when they based things on the220- so someone came up with something a bit more useful for older fit folks.  Only reason I even know this is I recently had to learn these formulas to take the ACE personal trainer exam.  And trust me that was one of the most challenging things I have done in a while. At 57 its just not as easy to absorb new info as it used to be.
> Sorry about that back to the formula. I believe this is called the Carvonian formula; Start as before 220-your age Next you deduct your resting heart rate from that number.
> The difference gives you what they call your heart rate reserve You then multiply that number by whatever % you want to work at Then you add back in your HRR (heart rate reserve) And that gives you the peak number to work at.
> I guess this doesn't really help you get your max heart rate but we rarely if ever want to work at that rate anyway.
> I found after doing this a few times that it gives you a higher number than the old way.
> A client/friend of mine who is very fit at 76 was very happy when I told him to shoot for the new number as he said an easy bike ride to the gym was getting him up to the old number and he was just getting warmed up.
> Hope this helps Nella.
> Bill
> 
> Bill Kociaba
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> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
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> From: SportsandRec [mailto:sportsandrec-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ron Burzese via SportsandRec
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:17 PM
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> Cc: Ron Burzese
> Subject: [Sportsandrec] accessible heartrate monitor? was Re: aerobic workout
> 
> The 220 minus your age is one way to do it. It is a general rule.
> 
> 13 years ago, when I was on the National Paralympic Cycling Team, My coach had me race a 9-mile time trial, on a stationary bike. Every 30 seconds, my talking heart rate monitor would call out my heart-rate, which I’d call out to the man timing me. When we were finished, he told me my max heart-rate. That, became my max. It improved with my fitness.
> 
> When I was racing the 2004 Texas Time Trial Championships, my average heart rate was 189, iirc. I was almost 36 years old. A year or two after that, I was on a tandem, going for an intermediate sprint, at the city limit sign. This is a common skill drill, for bike racing. My heart rate peaked at 206.
> 
> Now, at 48, I don’t know if I can go that high, but I’m not in the shape I was, then.
> 
> Still, I think the method would still be fine. I’m not a doctor, so check with him/her, first.
> 
> What are you using for a talking heart-rate monitor? Mine no longer works and is no longer made. It was the Heart Talker. It worked well, through some earbuds.
> 
> Ron, in Sacramento
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Jessica Beecham via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 220 - your age is your max target heart rate. Generally you want to be 
>> working at 60-80 percent of that number
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Feb 25, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Nella Foster via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org <mailto:sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me how to do the formula to figure out my target 
>>> heart range?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used to know how to do it, but can't remember now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nella
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