[Sportsandrec] {Spam?} RE: {Spam?} RE: body mass index and charting progress

Michael bonsai1b at bellsouth.net
Sun Feb 26 19:32:33 UTC 2017 

I prefer to keep abreast of percent body fat.  The manager of the gym where 
I work out does a three point skin fold analysis, where he takes a caliper 
measurement at the mid thigh, waist just above the hip bone, and a mid back 
measurement.  He then calculates percent body fat based on these three 
readings.  This however is a fairly subjective measurement as different 
individuals take different thickness caliper measurements.  For this reason 
it is important to have the same person take these measurements to track 
progress.  Another way to track percent body fat is electric impedance. 
This technology determines the speed at wich a small electric current passes 
through the body with the idea that the current passes through the body at 
different rates, depending on body composition.  There are scales that are 
available that measure this and also hand held devices that do it as well. 
I have been bodybuilding naturally a lifetime and have been told by numerous 
physicians that I am overweight based on BMI.  Even the military still holds 
BMI as the standard for optimal weight

Michael

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Nella,
Kelly said everything I would have.  It’s a meaningless number in the real 
world.  Unfortunatly many old school Dr.s still follow it.  A good friend of 
mine who is in his early 60s and has been a heavy lifter for the 30+ years I 
have known him was told by his Dr. he needs to lose weight.  Don't know his 
body fat ratio but at about 5'7 he weighs around 180 and has a 32 waist.  In 
what world is he overweight?


Bill Kociaba
www.kociaba-fitness.com
"Building Better Bodies Since 1981"


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Nella Foster via SportsandRec
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:50 AM
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Bill are there other ways of figuring out one's body mass index besides 
using those pinchy things?

This is another thing we did in fitness classes in college and maybe there 
are new and better ways of doing it now.

I'm sure I don't want to know my weight or body mass index.  It would only 
be depressing.

How do the rest of you monitor your progress?

Do you use your weight, heart rate BMI or just go on how the workouts are 
feeling?

Also when do you know it is time to step up the workouts?

Sorry if these are stupid questions; it's been years since I've been able to 
workout and I've forgotten a lot.  I used to know a lot of this, but time 
and bad health has taken it's toll on my mind and body. Lol

Nella

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Hay Ron,
Wow man you were in some amazing shape.  Maybe not at that level any more 
but I am sure you are in far better condition than most.
Re the target heart rate, The 220 minus your age was the standard for a long 
time but there are a few other formulas.  II am guessing there were far too 
many people like Ron who wereen't challenged at all when they based things 
on the220- so someone came up with something a bit more useful for older fit 
folks.  Only reason I even know this is I recently had to learn these 
formulas to take the ACE personal trainer exam.  And trust me that was one 
of the most challenging things I have done in a while. At 57 its just not as 
easy to absorb new info as it used to be.
Sorry about that back to the formula. I believe this is called the Carvonian 
formula; Start as before 220-your age Next you deduct your resting heart 
rate from that number.
The difference gives you what they call your heart rate reserve You then 
multiply that number by whatever % you want to work at Then you add back in 
your HRR (heart rate reserve) And that gives you the peak number to work at.
I guess this doesn't really help you get your max heart rate but we rarely 
if ever want to work at that rate anyway.
I found after doing this a few times that it gives you a higher number than 
the old way.
A client/friend of mine who is very fit at 76 was very happy when I told him 
to shoot for the new number as he said an easy bike ride to the gym was 
getting him up to the old number and he was just getting warmed up.
Hope this helps Nella.
Bill

Bill Kociaba
www.kociaba-fitness.com
"Building Better Bodies Since 1981"


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The 220 minus your age is one way to do it. It is a general rule.

13 years ago, when I was on the National Paralympic Cycling Team, My coach 
had me race a 9-mile time trial, on a stationary bike. Every 30 seconds, my 
talking heart rate monitor would call out my heart-rate, which I’d call out 
to the man timing me. When we were finished, he told me my max heart-rate. 
That, became my max. It improved with my fitness.

When I was racing the 2004 Texas Time Trial Championships, my average heart 
rate was 189, iirc. I was almost 36 years old. A year or two after that, I 
was on a tandem, going for an intermediate sprint, at the city limit sign. 
This is a common skill drill, for bike racing. My heart rate peaked at 206.

Now, at 48, I don’t know if I can go that high, but I’m not in the shape I 
was, then.

Still, I think the method would still be fine. I’m not a doctor, so check 
with him/her, first.

What are you using for a talking heart-rate monitor? Mine no longer works 
and is no longer made. It was the Heart Talker. It worked well, through some 
earbuds.

Ron, in Sacramento

> On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Jessica Beecham via SportsandRec 
> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> 220 - your age is your max target heart rate. Generally you want to be
> working at 60-80 percent of that number
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 25, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Nella Foster via SportsandRec 
>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org <mailto:sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how to do the formula to figure out my target
>> heart range?
>>
>>
>>
>> I used to know how to do it, but can't remember now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nella
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