[SportsandRec] Campsites and Hiking Trails

Tom Evans tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jan 23 21:44:48 UTC 2023 

Oh Joseph, I’m old and fat and out of it… My doctor wants me to go hiking but he wouldn’t be my hiking partner so then I just ate more donuts. You would be surprised to find hiking groups, but obviously they’re not gonna be sitting online because they’re out enjoying the great out doors. I worked for at least five groups. So as were thinking, I would check the outdoor stores as again they won’t repeat customers buying stuff. If I was in Oklahoma and you would be gentle on me then I’d be willing to go for a hike

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> On Jan 23, 2023, at 1:23 PM, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> always looking for supporters, volunteers, gear, venues, etc
> 
>> On 1/23/23, Joseph Bundy <joseph.bundy92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I get money buys options. But their is more to life than things. I
>> know a couple groups. Would love to have you learn more or get
>> involved if you want.
>> 
>>> On 1/23/23, Tom Evans via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Oh Joseph, I was with you till the money part, smile. Money doesn’t buy
>>> happiness but it buys options. Another thought of a place I worked was
>>> Minnesota and Wilderness Inquiry if they’re still around. They go on
>>> serious
>>> trips like dog sledding and many other good adventures. Their rule is for
>>> a
>>> trip to leave half of the crew have to have a disability, which I thought
>>> was interesting. Of course good adventures have some cost and again I
>>> don’t
>>> know if they’re still around.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know. Its a non-profit. I started to impact others not to become
>>>> rich. Money doesn't buy happiness. We are based in Central Oklahoma
>>>> but traveling can be an open. The board members live in central
>>>> Oklahoma but one is in Missouri. We are open to any type of outdoor
>>>> themed event. You can visit waministry.org, or
>>>> facebook.com/wildernessadventuresministry to get some more info or
>>>> feel free to ask any questions at any time.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/23/23, Tom Evans via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Joseph, I’m glad you’re connecting your brain cells and as I’m dusting
>>>>> off
>>>>> mine… As an outdoor living skills instructor from way back when I would
>>>>> get
>>>>> hired by different groups and some of those would be church groups. I
>>>>> promise that it is very little money if you choose to take such an
>>>>> endeavor
>>>>> but you’re getting paid to go hiking. I would take groups I’ve no more
>>>>> than
>>>>> eight out. Also for others I remember that the hiking stores because
>>>>> they
>>>>> want to sell equipment, so they want you to stay alive would have a
>>>>> list
>>>>> of
>>>>> other people that wanted to go out. I don’t know in today’s world with
>>>>> legal
>>>>> liability and everything else that they would have a list or I’m sure
>>>>> there’s some thing on the Internet of groups. Joseph, where is your
>>>>> group
>>>>> and here’s the time to throw in a commercial
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:45 AM, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> lol. I run a non-profit for people with disabilities to get them
>>>>>> outdoors and explore nature and encounter God. We are faith based. I
>>>>>> know a lot but never want to go alone. Its funner in groups.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/23/23, Tom Evans via SportsandRec <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Joseph, thank you for your post… Laughing. I didn’t think that this
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> a subject. Also, think of the others as in the rescuers who are away
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> their families out in the mountain for a week looking for you and the
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> cost and how dangerous it is for a medevac helicopter. These all have
>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>> when people don’t take basic precautions. Joseph, possibly a
>>>>>>> recommendation
>>>>>>> for you was way back when I was an outdoor living skills instructor
>>>>>>> also,
>>>>>>> which was a simple Today course. I remember from way  back when if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> had a
>>>>>>> large group of people then they would bring an instructor to you.
>>>>>>> Another
>>>>>>> thought on safety… We used to say don’t perform stupid people birth
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> on yourself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:25 AM, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have camped a lot and I also plan on doing more. Its part of my
>>>>>>>> non-profit. We just want to make sure safety is number one because
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> hate to hear of something bad happening. Its about being smart.
>>>>>>>> Rather
>>>>>>>> avoid a problem than trying to solve it. Its like instead of giving
>>>>>>>> access to your personal info to someone calling asking for it. You
>>>>>>>> wouldn't just give it to them because it may not be ligit but if you
>>>>>>>> reached out to them then you feel safer doing so. I view safety like
>>>>>>>> that. I know the Chickasaw National Area is nice by Davis/Sulfur.
>>>>>>>> Texoma has honestly been my favorite so far.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The idea of taking a second person makes sense, I'm just sure it'll
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> blind person.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Tom Evans via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Safety is always number one, people make a common mistake that if
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> didn’t happen to them then it’s OK. I’ve never had a house fire
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> practice good procedures and have fire insurance. If you’re in
>>>>>>>>>> Southern
>>>>>>>>>> California then you could be aware of the cited rich actor, can’t
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> his name that they called the search off for after a week and
>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> young  Lady that went by her self
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>>>>>> SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Fascinating. I know at least two blind people who do these
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>> independently. When we went in Southern California, we took
>>>>>>>>>>> paratransit
>>>>>>>>>>> to the edge of where we were going and then walked to the trail
>>>>>>>>>>> head.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regardless, let's just focus on camp'ing for the time being. I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> reach out to my primary contact who actually does it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially if you don't know the area, it would be hard.
>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> cane has missed rocks, and steps in nature and that was never
>>>>>>>>>>>> fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>>>>>> would you even get to these spots because public transportation
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't usually go to campsites, or trails
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/23/23, Tom Evans via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cited or unsighted it would never be recommended to go on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to work on a mountain rescue team and the multiple amounts of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there were. For one simple reason if something happens to you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> notify others. This isn’t the beginning of a close call… Cited
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-cited
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would not be recommended to go on your own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Located in central Oklahoma. No specific wants other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hiking, I'd use my usual long, rigid cane and an equally long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer trekking pole. I will definitely be going alone or with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally blind person.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/23, Joseph Bundy via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you located? Are you wanting something easy hard?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular you want in the camping area? I usually research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people i know about places or ask them to describe something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photos. Usually we got to places they been or have good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ptotos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviews. I don't know how much vission you have but if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none, i wouldn't go hiking alone especially for the fist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't done it much but would hate to go on a trail and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop off the hard way. I know some good places if you want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart via SportsandRec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sportsandrec at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to spend more time in nature. How do you folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose/locate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> campsites and hiking trails for the first time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no
>>>>>>>>>>>> vision.
>>>>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>>>> Helen Keller
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>>>>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>>>>>>>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>>>>>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>>>>>>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>>>>>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.
>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>> Helen Keller
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>>>>>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>>>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>>>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>>>>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>>>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
>>>>>> Helen Keller
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
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>>>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>>>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>>>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>>>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
>>>> Helen Keller
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>> Take Care and God Bless
>> 
>> Joseph S. Bundy
>> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
>> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
>> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
>> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
>> Greek.-Romans 1:16
>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
>> Helen Keller
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Take Care and God Bless
> 
> Joseph S. Bundy
> Cell: 1-405-693-4771
> E-Mail: josephbundy92 at gmail.com
> For I  am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
> salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
> Greek.-Romans 1:16
> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. —
> Helen Keller
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