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It is also possible to do flip turns without a tapper, at least in
short course, but it takes a lot of work and refinement to get to that
point.<br>
On 4/7/2009 9:33 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I like that. I have never used anything like that, even when I swam full
speed. I never hit the wall. If you vector your hands right, you will not
sacrifice hands for safety. You just have to make sure your hands stay out
in front, an that there are no holes in your technique.
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Hello,
When I'm swimming I normally only use a tapper when I'm racing. During
practice I have found it is easier to locate the wall independently by
constantly having one hand out in front. I've gotten pretty good at
it, and don't sacrafice speed or efficiency for safety.
I normally place my cane under the char I will put my towel on, so
that no one feels the need to move it. I try and find a chair near the
pool, and just keep a mental idea of where that chair is in relation
to the lane I will swim in.
I haven't used the Adaptap, but I would like to eventually...
Aziza
On 4/7/09, Lori M. Miller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lori@asmodean.net"><lori@asmodean.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi,
I find the swimming pool environment generally very accessible. I tend to
put my kane on the deck at the end of my lane if lap swimming so that it
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<pre wrap="">there as soon as I get out of the pool. If this is not appropriate, then i
set it along the wall of chairs or whatever is directly at the end of the
lane so I can walk to it indpependently. If not swimming laps for leisure
then I will put my kane idown some where in relation to a ladder or some
other landmark that I can identify from within the pool.
If lap swimming, I like to have a tapper or I wish the AdapTap was
available, other wise I count strokes and slow down as I approach the end.
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<pre wrap="">use other clues such as a radio playing etc things that are already there
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<pre wrap="">help with orientation if necessary.
In the locker room I take my own pushbutton lock and pick a locker that is
easy for me to locate.
Lori
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<pre wrap="">Does anyone in the NYC area know where one can take swimming lessons in a
setting conducive to our needs?
Thanks in advance
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<pre wrap="">From: Lilyth Berlin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nefamphetamine@gmail.com"><nefamphetamine@gmail.com></a>
Subject: Re: [Sportsandrec] pilates
To: "Sports and Recreation for the Blind Discussion List"
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Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 2:48 PM
In my quest to lead a healthier
existance, I learned about many forms
of exercise, pilates being very high on my list. I found
that,
although I have some useful vision, a class setting was
more stressful
than anything else. Luckily, I happened to mention my
interest to a
good friend of mine. As it turned out, she had
partnered with a
pilates instructor here in NYC to make an hour-long pilates
program
some time ago. It is just perfect for the blind in that
it's
completely accessible. If any one is interested, I've
gotten
permission to pass along her number so that you may speak
to her
directly. Feel free to contact me off-list and I'll get
you on your
way.
On 4/5/09, Jennifer Boylan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jaboylan@gmail.com"><jaboylan@gmail.com></a>
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<pre wrap="">Hi Ashley! I had an experience with pilates for
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<pre wrap="">a few months but it was
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<pre wrap="">under ideal circumstances. One of the
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<pre wrap="">high-partial seniors at the blind
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<pre wrap="">center had taken classes at the community
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<pre wrap="">college. She then returned and
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<pre wrap="">center. She knew the techniques and could
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<pre wrap="">explain them well. Also, we had
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<pre wrap="">a sighted volunteer on hand to quickly show us the
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<pre wrap="">correct positioning if
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<pre wrap="">the instructions weren't totally clear. After a
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<pre wrap="">The class was geared
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<pre wrap="">towards the elderly, not too fast or strenuous, but I
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<pre wrap="">benefit from it. If you can't get an instructor
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<pre wrap="">to be more descriptive,
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<pre wrap="">maybe someone else from the class would show you moves
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<pre wrap="">session. Hope it works out for you--if not, I'm
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<pre wrap="">sure you'll find something
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<pre wrap="">else great to try! Jennifer
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ashley Bramlett
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<pre wrap="">Hi all,
Tell me about your experience with pilates.
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<pre wrap="">What is the pace of the
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What muscles are used and what is the
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<pre wrap="">purpose? I am refering to pilates
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<pre wrap="">mat exercises. You can do pilates on a
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<pre wrap="">device named the reformer. But
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is different. What benefits did you get from
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<pre wrap="">How helpful was the instructor?
I am considering taking it at my health
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<pre wrap="">club. They offer them as a part
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the membership. They also offer private
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<pre wrap="">lessons for an additional fee.
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<pre wrap="">The director of group classes raised concerns
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<pre wrap="">about my ability to grasp
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do the exercises before they move on. She
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<pre wrap="">says pilates is precise and
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<pre wrap="">controlled and they do 6-10 reps of each
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<pre wrap="">exercise. and I will not have
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time to figure out the move. She says the
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but they have to be accessible to other
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<pre wrap="">moving.
Do you think its doable without previous
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<pre wrap="">experience? I really don't want
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<pre wrap="">to get lost; its not worth my time. The
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<pre wrap="">director highly suggested I do
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<pre wrap="">private sessions first before the class. I
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<pre wrap="">am concerned too. Without the
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<pre wrap="">benefit of seeing the exercises, I do not know
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to do. I will ask them to explain it.
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<pre wrap="">But they cannot slow down the
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for me.
So I am wondering is this someone doubting my
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<pre wrap="">ability or is this real? I
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<pre wrap="">know that due to the visual nature and pace of
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<pre wrap="">some classes, they are
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Thanks for your thoughts.
Ashley
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