[stylist] Blind and segregation

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Wed Dec 31 17:12:00 UTC 2008


Because, at the end of the day, the legislation is not enforceable.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation


> Judith,
> Are we really not in agreement?  As you say, legislation can draw the 
> outline, so why not have it?
> Donna
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> Judith Bron wrote:
>> I have to agree with Angela.  In New York State we have a Commission that 
>> serves the blind community.  Supposedly.  Every move they make has to be 
>> backed by a chapter or verse from their guidelines.  No more, no less. 
>> Every public building has to have handicap accessable bathrooms.  How 
>> many times has a blind person been in a public building and asked someone 
>> for directions to the restroom?  How many times is that question answered 
>> with a pointing finger?  Legislation is like an outline to a term paper. 
>> You have the idea down, but now you have to do the real work to complete 
>> the project. Legislators can draw the outline, but in order to complete 
>> the project humanity has to use common sense to complete the project. 
>> Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
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>>> Donna,
>>> Legislation is only part of the solution. A piece of legislation without 
>>> the
>>> backing of heart and determination is a worthless thing. The civil 
>>> rights
>>> act didn't make one less racist. The ADA didn't make one less person
>>> closed-minded to the capabilities of blind people. We can legislate if 
>>> we
>>> will, but real change must take place at the grass-roots level. In 
>>> short, it
>>> is more important that parents all across this country stand up for 
>>> their
>>> children's right to literacy!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Donna Hill
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:59 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
>>>
>>> Parents don't insist because they are strong-armed by the public school
>>> officials with budget concerns who tell them that their child doesn't 
>>> need
>>> Braille.  We still live in a world where authority figures are deferred 
>>> to,
>>> whether they're right or not.  I think it would be easier to convert the
>>> school authorities with a change in the legislation than trying to find
>>> every parent who isn't standing up for their kids and train them in time 
>>> to
>>> avoid having the kid miss out on their education.
>>> Surely, the parents who join the NFB are given some support for standing 
>>> up
>>> for Braille literacy, but how many parents don't belong?  I really think 
>>> the
>>> schools must be forced to do it.
>>> Donna
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>>> LoriStay at aol.com wrote:
>>>> No.   The main reason is that parents don't insist, loud and long, with
>>>> advocates behind them when the schools balk.   Braille has been taught 
>>>> to
>>> the two
>>>> blind children in Chatterton School in Merrick, and all their work is
>>> presented
>>>> to them in Braille.   Actually, one of them is now in Middle school, 
>>>> and
>>> I've
>>>> no idea what they do there, but her background is solid because her
>>>> parents insisted.
>>>> Lori
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 12/29/08 2:26:11 PM, penatwork at epix.net writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The main reason that Braille is not taught in public schools is
>>>>> two-fold.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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