[stylist] Blind and segregation
Donna Hill
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Wed Dec 31 23:57:50 UTC 2008
Agreed.
Donna
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Angela fowler wrote:
> Teachers and students alike are ignorant of financial matters, and lenders
> say "Thank you!" Ignorance is one of society's greatest evils.
>
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> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Donna Hill
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:55 AM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
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> Judith,
> Then, pray tell, what would you do? Your objections are valid, but almost
> seem to be a throwing up of ones hands in defeat. After all, if society's
> really as far gone as you suggest -- and I would not want to argue against
> that perspective -- then we're all doomed anyway, so what's the point?
> Personally, I have a very negative view of society.
> I'm the one who thinks educators are so poorly educated themselves that they
> don't know what literacy means. I also believe most teachers are so poorly
> educated about financial matters that they are poor role models and worse
> teachers on that score as well. My feeling and suggestion is that we
> proceed despite these facts and on all fronts.
> Use PR like the NFB video on Time Square, encourage Braille literacy through
> programs like Braille Readers are Leaders and the new Braille oriented
> Writers' Division contest, talk to parents of blind kids, talk to educators,
> write things for national and local media -- both blindness related and
> mainstream -- and make the changes in legislation that will give some
> parents the amunition they need to insist upon Braille literacy. So, what's
> your suggestion?
> Donna
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> Judith Bron wrote:
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>> What you could legislate are guidelines to school boards for visually
>> impaired or legally blind students. But then you are depending on
>> school districts to enforce a law that will cost them more money.
>> Perhaps you could lobby the NEA, but don' count on results. Their
>> priorities go in this order: salary, benefits, more control over
>> students to garentee docile behaviors and on time dismissals. No, I
>> don't have much faith in unions who are handed more and more money
>> each year to come up with negative results. Want to go this route?
>> You will feel better for making a dent in a failed system, but it
>> won't make a darned bit of difference to blind students.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
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>>> Angela,
>>> I'm just saying that getting all of those parents to do that wil take
>>> even longer than legislation requiring it. Obviously,
>>> consciousnesses need to be raised, PR needs to be done, people's
>>> minds need to be opened to the capabilities of blind people.
>>> Nevertheless, a law requiring the teaching of Braille to all kids
>>> whose visual limitations prevent them from reading at a speed and
>>> with the comprehension of what is considered average for their age/IQ
>>> or however you want to measure it would catch some kids who would
>>> otherwise fall through the cracks while waiting for the sensabilities
>>> of the nation to catch up. Also, isn't that what NFB is currently
>>> recommending, state laws mandating Braille education?
>>> Donna
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>>> Angela fowler wrote:
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>>>> Donna,
>>>> Legislation is only part of the solution. A piece of legislation
>>>> without the backing of heart and determination is a worthless thing.
>>>> The civil rights act didn't make one less racist. The ADA didn't
>>>> make one less person closed-minded to the capabilities of blind
>>>> people. We can legislate if we will, but real change must take place
>>>> at the grass-roots level. In short, it is more important that
>>>> parents all across this country stand up for their children's right
>>>> to literacy!
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Donna Hill
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:59 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
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>>>> Parents don't insist because they are strong-armed by the public
>>>> school officials with budget concerns who tell them that their child
>>>> doesn't need Braille. We still live in a world where authority
>>>> figures are deferred to, whether they're right or not. I think it
>>>> would be easier to convert the school authorities with a change in
>>>> the legislation than trying to find every parent who isn't standing
>>>> up for their kids and train them in time to avoid having the kid
>>>> miss out on their education. Surely, the parents who join the NFB
>>>> are given some support for standing up for Braille literacy, but how
>>>> many parents don't belong? I really think the schools must be
>>>> forced to do it.
>>>> Donna
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>>>> LoriStay at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No. The main reason is that parents don't insist, loud and long,
>>>>> with advocates behind them when the schools balk. Braille has
>>>>> been taught to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the two
>>>>
>>>>> blind children in Chatterton School in Merrick, and all their work
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> presented
>>>>
>>>>> to them in Braille. Actually, one of them is now in Middle
>>>>> school, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I've
>>>>
>>>>> no idea what they do there, but her background is solid because her
>>>>> parents insisted.
>>>>> Lori
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 12/29/08 2:26:11 PM, penatwork at epix.net writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The main reason that Braille is not taught in public schools is
>>>>>> two-fold.
>>>>>>
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