[stylist] Blind and segregation

Mon Jan 5 03:22:46 UTC 2009

LOL!!!!!
What about adding on to there the time they can get at school without the 
children, I.e. teacher inservices and collaboration time.
Barbara

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From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:22 AM
To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation

> What you could legislate are guidelines to school boards for visually 
> impaired or legally blind students.  But then you are depending on school 
> districts to enforce a law that will cost them more money.  Perhaps you 
> could lobby the NEA, but don' count on results.  Their priorities go in 
> this order:  salary, benefits, more control over students to garentee 
> docile behaviors and on time dismissals.  No, I don't have much faith in 
> unions who are handed more and more money each year to come up with 
> negative results. Want to go this route?  You will feel better for making 
> a dent in a failed system, but it won't make a darned bit of difference to 
> blind students.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
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>> Angela,
>> I'm just saying that getting all of those parents to do that wil take 
>> even longer than legislation  requiring it.  Obviously, consciousnesses 
>> need to be raised, PR needs to be done, people's minds need to be opened 
>> to the capabilities of blind people.  Nevertheless, a law requiring the 
>> teaching of Braille to all kids whose visual limitations prevent them 
>> from reading at a speed and with the comprehension of what is considered 
>> average for their age/IQ or however you want to measure it would catch 
>> some kids who would otherwise fall through the cracks while waiting for 
>> the sensabilities of the nation to catch up.  Also, isn't that what NFB 
>> is currently recommending, state laws mandating Braille education?
>> Donna
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>> Angela fowler wrote:
>>> Donna,
>>> Legislation is only part of the solution. A piece of legislation without 
>>> the
>>> backing of heart and determination is a worthless thing. The civil 
>>> rights
>>> act didn't make one less racist. The ADA didn't make one less person
>>> closed-minded to the capabilities of blind people. We can legislate if 
>>> we
>>> will, but real change must take place at the grass-roots level. In 
>>> short, it
>>> is more important that parents all across this country stand up for 
>>> their
>>> children's right to literacy!
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Donna Hill
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:59 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Blind and segregation
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>>> Parents don't insist because they are strong-armed by the public school
>>> officials with budget concerns who tell them that their child doesn't 
>>> need
>>> Braille.  We still live in a world where authority figures are deferred 
>>> to,
>>> whether they're right or not.  I think it would be easier to convert the
>>> school authorities with a change in the legislation than trying to find
>>> every parent who isn't standing up for their kids and train them in time 
>>> to
>>> avoid having the kid miss out on their education.  Surely, the parents 
>>> who join the NFB are given some support for standing up
>>> for Braille literacy, but how many parents don't belong?  I really think 
>>> the
>>> schools must be forced to do it.
>>> Donna
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LoriStay at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> No.   The main reason is that parents don't insist, loud and long, with 
>>>> advocates behind them when the schools balk.   Braille has been taught 
>>>> to
>>>>
>>> the two
>>>> blind children in Chatterton School in Merrick, and all their work is
>>>>
>>> presented
>>>> to them in Braille.   Actually, one of them is now in Middle school, 
>>>> and
>>>>
>>> I've
>>>> no idea what they do there, but her background is solid because her 
>>>> parents insisted.
>>>> Lori
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 12/29/08 2:26:11 PM, penatwork at epix.net writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The main reason that Braille is not taught in public schools is 
>>>>> two-fold.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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