[stylist] question

Tue Mar 24 22:50:50 UTC 2009

Barbara,
I totally agree.  It would be useful if children learnt braille and
sign language instead of anything else.

Helene

On 24/03/2009, helene ryles <dreamavdb at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I think it is refreshing to have someone who thinks that deafblindness
> is no big deal.  Because so many people seem to think it is some sort
> of tragedy. Yes I do spend time crawling on the floor hunting for
> objects I've dropped. Having petit mal epilepsy as an added extra
> doesn't help either.
>
> I don't believe being deafblind makes me any better or any worse then
> anyone else. It just means I have more challanges then non disabled
> people, but I wouldn't even want to be a non disabled person. That
> would be so boring. I'm happy the way I am.
>
> I identify myself as a deafblind Vegan.  I chose a vegan life style. I
> also chose to accept my deafblindness rather then waste time hunting
> for a cure.
>
> Helene
>
> On 24/03/2009, Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net> wrote:
>> I couldn't agree more.  I simply tell people that I'm legally blind, not
>> legally brain dead.  If they can't figure that out perhaps they are
>> looking
>> in the wrong mirror.  No pun intended.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
>>
>>
>>> Judith,
>>> I start to care, though, when people associate the fact that my eyes
>>> don't
>>>
>>> work with being the same as my brain not working.  Know what I mean?
>>> For
>>> some sighted people blindness = stupidity, and that bothers me.  My eyes
>>> can't see, but my brain can still think.  So, when people treat me like
>>> both my brain and my eyes don't work, I tend to struggle with how to
>>> respond at times.  The overwhelming majority of the time, I am kind
>>> about
>>> it.  There are those moments I find myself thinking that dealing with a
>>> particular individual is a total wash.  I am not saying I am right for
>>> feeeling that way, because I am not.  It's just my human nature rearing
>>> its head is all.
>>>
>>>
>>> In Christ,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +-+-+-
>>>
>>>   God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because
>>> it
>>> is not there. There is no such thing.
>>> C. S. Lewis
>>> ~~~
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 02:45
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
>>>
>>>
>>>> John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being sighted is
>>>> better
>>>> than being blind.  Terms like "visually impaired", "Visually
>>>> challenged"
>>>> or
>>>> any of the like are legislated terms.  I can't see any better or worse
>>>> when
>>>> a bureaucrat describes my visual limitations.  I am what I am.  Like I
>>>> said
>>>> before, I have to take those limitations, do the best I can to do what
>>>> I
>>>> am
>>>> capable of and continue striving to be the best me I can be.  I don't
>>>> care
>>>> how society looks at my limitations.  And, yes, they are limitations.
>>>> I
>>>> have to be the one to deal with them.  Almost every person in this
>>>> world
>>>> has
>>>> limitations.  Some can create beautiful artwork, some can't.  Some can
>>>> write
>>>> beautifully, some can't put together a cognizant statement either
>>>> verbally
>>>> or in writing.  Some have athletic prowess while others are happy being
>>>> couch potatoes.  Some love to eat while others are skinny and
>>>> physically
>>>> fit
>>>> their entire life.  All "problems", all "limitations" when put in the
>>>> perspective of the optimum and people all over the world live with them
>>>> every day.  When was the last time you heard of the "art impaired"
>>>> person?
>>>> Or the person who can't sing one note without causing distress to the
>>>> other
>>>> person's eardrums?  Are there cultures for the tone deaf?  The person
>>>> who
>>>> can't draw a straight line?  John, deal with John.  Society has enough
>>>> problems.  As a society we have a lot to deal with, but making John
>>>> socially
>>>> comfortable isn't one of them.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Lee Clark" <johnlee at clarktouch.com>
>>>> To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lori:
>>>>>
>>>>> I love the words blind and deaf.  I abhor anything with impaired in
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and
>>>>> that's
>>>>> a
>>>>> negative description, we still have the opportunity to neutralize the
>>>>> word
>>>>> itself and have it convey something else entirely, into something
>>>>> that's
>>>>> cool.  Same with deaf.  We can take it and turn it around, and
>>>>> associate
>>>>> it
>>>>> with culture, pride, ASL, all sorts of great and positive things.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight impaired.
>>>>> Tthat
>>>>> term does two very bad, bad, bad things.  First, it implies that sight
>>>>> is
>>>>> the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, and that if we
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have it, we SHOULD want it.  This is society talking, "Sight is
>>>>> better."
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of the
>>>>> ideal,
>>>>> or
>>>>> we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal.  This is
>>>>> very
>>>>> bad, bad, bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind?  It shouldn't.  it should
>>>>> embrace
>>>>> it absolutely.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
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