[stylist] question

Wed Mar 25 05:09:04 UTC 2009

She didn't invite us (lol) so we're stow-aways on the ship?   

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Sometimes you don't need to kno where you were going, as long as you get
there, so where ever Barbra was going in writing what she did, I think she
got there. And she didn't even invite us. LOL. I liked what you wrote
though, and I agree with it.

On 3/24/09, James Canaday M.A.  N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
> sadly,
> many of the terms, particularly "visually impaired"  have been 
> promoted by paternalistic researchers/professors.  I knew one at 
> kansas university.  had all kinds of publications, teaching that 
> circumlocution actually helped us blind, and when we disagreed she 
> dismissed our protests.
>
> if white professors published and insisted upon how blacks should be 
> labeled, how long would that last?
>
> unfortunately I had to take a class as a grad student from that
> crone.    crone is a technical term.
> she never accepted that we blind people accepted the term and chose it 
> for ourselves.
> jc
>
> Jim Canaday M.A.
> Lawrence, KS
>
> At 01:45 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
>>John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being sighted is 
>>better than being blind.  Terms like "visually impaired", "Visually 
>>challenged" or any of the like are legislated terms.  I can't see any 
>>better or worse when a bureaucrat describes my visual limitations.  I 
>>am what I am.  Like I said before, I have to take those limitations, 
>>do the best I can to do what I am capable of and continue striving to 
>>be the best me I can be.  I don't care how society looks at my 
>>limitations.  And, yes, they are limitations.  I have to be the one to 
>>deal with them.  Almost every person in this world has limitations.  
>>Some can create beautiful artwork, some can't.  Some can write 
>>beautifully, some can't put together a cognizant statement either 
>>verbally or in writing.  Some have athletic prowess while others are 
>>happy being couch potatoes.  Some love to eat while others are skinny 
>>and physically fit their entire life.  All "problems", all 
>>"limitations" when put in the perspective of the optimum and people 
>>all over the world live with them every day.  When was the last time 
>>you heard of the "art impaired" person?
>>Or the person who can't sing one note without causing distress to the 
>>other person's eardrums?  Are there cultures for the tone deaf?  The 
>>person who can't draw a straight line?  John, deal with John.  Society 
>>has enough problems.  As a society we have a lot to deal with, but 
>>making John socially comfortable isn't one of them.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lee Clark"
>> <johnlee at clarktouch.com>
>>To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] question
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>>
>>>Lori:
>>>
>>>I love the words blind and deaf.  I abhor anything with impaired in it.
>>>
>>>Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and 
>>>that's a negative description, we still have the opportunity to 
>>>neutralize the word itself and have it convey something else 
>>>entirely, into something that's cool.  Same with deaf.  We can take 
>>>it and turn it around, and associate  it with culture, pride, ASL, 
>>>all sorts of great and positive things.
>>>
>>>But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight impaired. 
>>>Tthat term does two very bad, bad, bad things.  First, it implies 
>>>that sight is the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, 
>>>and that if we don't have it, we SHOULD want it.  This is society
talking, "Sight is better."
>>>
>>>Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of the 
>>>ideal, or we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal.  
>>>This is very bad, bad, bad.
>>>
>>>Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind?  It shouldn't.  it should 
>>>embrace it absolutely.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
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