[stylist] question

Wed Mar 25 07:41:12 UTC 2009

well thank you Aziza.
it doesn't make sense that we as a group should allow other members 
from outside our group define us and label us!
jc

Jim Canaday M.A.
Lawrence, KS

At 11:04 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
>Sometimes you don't need to kno where you were going, as long as you
>get there, so where ever Barbra was going in writing what she did, I
>think she got there. And she didn't even invite us. LOL. I liked what
>you wrote though, and I agree with it.
>
>On 3/24/09, James Canaday M.A.  N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
> > sadly,
> > many of the terms, particularly "visually impaired"  have been
> > promoted by paternalistic researchers/professors.  I knew one at
> > kansas university.  had all kinds of publications, teaching that
> > circumlocution actually helped us blind, and when we disagreed she
> > dismissed our protests.
> >
> > if white professors published and insisted upon how blacks should be
> > labeled, how long would that last?
> >
> > unfortunately I had to take a class as a grad student from that
> > crone.    crone is a technical term.
> > she never accepted that we blind people accepted the term and chose
> > it for ourselves.
> > jc
> >
> > Jim Canaday M.A.
> > Lawrence, KS
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
> >>John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being sighted is
> >>better than being blind.  Terms like "visually impaired", "Visually
> >>challenged" or any of the like are legislated terms.  I can't see
> >>any better or worse when a bureaucrat describes my visual
> >>limitations.  I am what I am.  Like I said before, I have to take
> >>those limitations, do the best I can to do what I am capable of and
> >>continue striving to be the best me I can be.  I don't care how
> >>society looks at my limitations.  And, yes, they are limitations.  I
> >>have to be the one to deal with them.  Almost every person in this
> >>world has limitations.  Some can create beautiful artwork, some
> >>can't.  Some can write beautifully, some can't put together a
> >>cognizant statement either verbally or in writing.  Some have
> >>athletic prowess while others are happy being couch potatoes.  Some
> >>love to eat while others are skinny and physically fit their entire
> >>life.  All "problems", all "limitations" when put in the perspective
> >>of the optimum and people all over the world live with them every
> >>day.  When was the last time you heard of the "art impaired" person?
> >>Or the person who can't sing one note without causing distress to
> >>the other person's eardrums?  Are there cultures for the tone
> >>deaf?  The person who can't draw a straight line?  John, deal with
> >>John.  Society has enough problems.  As a society we have a lot to
> >>deal with, but making John socially comfortable isn't one of them.
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lee Clark"
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> >>
> >>>Lori:
> >>>
> >>>I love the words blind and deaf.  I abhor anything with impaired in it.
> >>>
> >>>Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and that's a
> >>>negative description, we still have the opportunity to neutralize the word
> >>>itself and have it convey something else entirely, into something that's
> >>>cool.  Same with deaf.  We can take it and turn it around, and associate
> >>> it
> >>>with culture, pride, ASL, all sorts of great and positive things.
> >>>
> >>>But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight impaired. Tthat
> >>>term does two very bad, bad, bad things.  First, it implies that sight is
> >>>the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, and that if we don't
> >>>have it, we SHOULD want it.  This is society talking, "Sight is better."
> >>>
> >>>Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of the ideal, or
> >>>we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal.  This is very
> >>>bad, bad, bad.
> >>>
> >>>Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind?  It shouldn't.  it should embrace
> >>>it absolutely.
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
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