[stylist] question
James Canaday M.A. N6YR
n6yr at sunflower.com
Wed Mar 25 20:55:54 UTC 2009
it teaches the average person that we are weak and need
protecting. that they know better than we do what we need, that's
the definition of paternalism and labeling us that way pushes paternalism.
jc
Jim Canaday M.A.
Lawrence, KS
At 10:31 AM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
>It only affects us if our life's goal is changing the world. I gave
>up on that decades ago.
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>>well it actually harms us by pushing a notion that circumlocution
>>helps us, that we need protection from the simple concept of
>>blindness. the the stark reality of the simple word "blind" harms
>>us and we sensitive weak people need the big strong educrats and
>>professors to come along and fix it for us.
>>baaah.
>>jc
>>
>>Jim Canaday M.A.
>>Lawrence, KS
>>
>>At 06:47 AM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
>>>The labeling of groups according to some falsely researched
>>>sociologists is for the sake of those who aren't a part of the
>>>group being labelled. When New York State labeled the blind
>>>visually impaired I'm sure the State Assembly felt fuzzy and
>>>warm. After all, they just lifted a labeling burden from those
>>>who were blind. However, no blind person saw better with their
>>>eyes, got a higher grade at school or got a job faster because
>>>some bureaucrat had to feel that they had done something very
>>>benevolent towards a charitable group that was waiting for them to
>>>be benevolent so that the targetted group could have a better
>>>life. Bureaucracies have done this with a lot of minorities. But
>>>they are too stupid, or self centered to notice that their actions
>>>are as useful as spitting in the ocean. Judith
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James Canaday M.A. N6YR"
>>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
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>>>>sadly,
>>>>many of the terms, particularly "visually impaired" have been
>>>>promoted by paternalistic researchers/professors. I knew one at
>>>>kansas university. had all kinds of publications, teaching that
>>>>circumlocution actually helped us blind, and when we disagreed
>>>>she dismissed our protests.
>>>>
>>>>if white professors published and insisted upon how blacks should
>>>>be labeled, how long would that last?
>>>>
>>>>unfortunately I had to take a class as a grad student from that
>>>>crone. crone is a technical term.
>>>>she never accepted that we blind people accepted the term and
>>>>chose it for ourselves.
>>>>jc
>>>>
>>>>Jim Canaday M.A.
>>>>Lawrence, KS
>>>>
>>>>At 01:45 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being
>>>>>sighted is better than being blind. Terms like "visually
>>>>>impaired", "Visually challenged" or any of the like are
>>>>>legislated terms. I can't see any better or worse when a
>>>>>bureaucrat describes my visual limitations. I am what I
>>>>>am. Like I said before, I have to take those limitations, do
>>>>>the best I can to do what I am capable of and continue striving
>>>>>to be the best me I can be. I don't care how society looks at
>>>>>my limitations. And, yes, they are limitations. I have to be
>>>>>the one to deal with them. Almost every person in this world has
>>>>>limitations. Some can create beautiful artwork, some
>>>>>can't. Some can write beautifully, some can't put together a
>>>>>cognizant statement either verbally or in writing. Some have
>>>>>athletic prowess while others are happy being couch
>>>>>potatoes. Some love to eat while others are skinny and
>>>>>physically fit their entire life. All "problems", all
>>>>>"limitations" when put in the perspective of the optimum and
>>>>>people all over the world live with them every day. When was the
>>>>>last time you heard of the "art impaired" person? Or the person
>>>>>who can't sing one note without causing distress to the other
>>>>>person's eardrums? Are there cultures for the tone deaf? The
>>>>>person who can't draw a straight line? John, deal with
>>>>>John. Society has enough problems. As a society we have a lot
>>>>>to deal with, but making John socially comfortable isn't one of them.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lee Clark"
>>>>><johnlee at clarktouch.com>
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>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:56 PM
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>>>>>
>>>>>>Lori:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I love the words blind and deaf. I abhor anything with impaired in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and that's a
>>>>>>negative description, we still have the opportunity to
>>>>>>neutralize the word
>>>>>>itself and have it convey something else entirely, into something that's
>>>>>>cool. Same with deaf. We can take it and turn it around, and
>>>>>>associate it
>>>>>>with culture, pride, ASL, all sorts of great and positive things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight
>>>>>>impaired. Tthat
>>>>>>term does two very bad, bad, bad things. First, it implies that sight is
>>>>>>the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, and that if we don't
>>>>>>have it, we SHOULD want it. This is society talking, "Sight is better."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of
>>>>>>the ideal, or
>>>>>>we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal. This is very
>>>>>>bad, bad, bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind? It shouldn't. it
>>>>>>should embrace
>>>>>>it absolutely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
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