[stylist] question

Angela fowler fowlers at syix.com
Thu Mar 26 02:57:01 UTC 2009 

I will walk the gang plank now. (lol) 

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From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] question

O don't let me captain anyone's ship.  It's mine!  Get off!.
Barbara

If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of whom
you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.

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From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:09 AM
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> She didn't invite us (lol) so we're stow-aways on the ship?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Aziza C
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
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> Sometimes you don't need to kno where you were going, as long as you 
> get there, so where ever Barbra was going in writing what she did, I 
> think she got there. And she didn't even invite us. LOL. I liked what 
> you wrote though, and I agree with it.
>
> On 3/24/09, James Canaday M.A.  N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
>> sadly,
>> many of the terms, particularly "visually impaired"  have been 
>> promoted by paternalistic researchers/professors.  I knew one at 
>> kansas university.  had all kinds of publications, teaching that 
>> circumlocution actually helped us blind, and when we disagreed she 
>> dismissed our protests.
>>
>> if white professors published and insisted upon how blacks should be 
>> labeled, how long would that last?
>>
>> unfortunately I had to take a class as a grad student from that
>> crone.    crone is a technical term.
>> she never accepted that we blind people accepted the term and chose 
>> it for ourselves.
>> jc
>>
>> Jim Canaday M.A.
>> Lawrence, KS
>>
>> At 01:45 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
>>>John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being sighted is 
>>>better than being blind.  Terms like "visually impaired", "Visually 
>>>challenged" or any of the like are legislated terms.  I can't see any 
>>>better or worse when a bureaucrat describes my visual limitations.  I 
>>>am what I am.  Like I said before, I have to take those limitations, 
>>>do the best I can to do what I am capable of and continue striving to 
>>>be the best me I can be.  I don't care how society looks at my 
>>>limitations.  And, yes, they are limitations.  I have to be the one 
>>>to deal with them.  Almost every person in this world has limitations.
>>>Some can create beautiful artwork, some can't.  Some can write 
>>>beautifully, some can't put together a cognizant statement either 
>>>verbally or in writing.  Some have athletic prowess while others are 
>>>happy being couch potatoes.  Some love to eat while others are skinny 
>>>and physically fit their entire life.  All "problems", all 
>>>"limitations" when put in the perspective of the optimum and people 
>>>all over the world live with them every day.  When was the last time 
>>>you heard of the "art impaired" person?
>>>Or the person who can't sing one note without causing distress to the 
>>>other person's eardrums?  Are there cultures for the tone deaf?  The 
>>>person who can't draw a straight line?  John, deal with John.  
>>>Society has enough problems.  As a society we have a lot to deal 
>>>with, but making John socially comfortable isn't one of them.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lee Clark"
>>> <johnlee at clarktouch.com>
>>>To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:56 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] question
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>>>
>>>>Lori:
>>>>
>>>>I love the words blind and deaf.  I abhor anything with impaired in it.
>>>>
>>>>Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and 
>>>>that's a negative description, we still have the opportunity to 
>>>>neutralize the word itself and have it convey something else 
>>>>entirely, into something that's cool.  Same with deaf.  We can take 
>>>>it and turn it around, and associate  it with culture, pride, ASL, 
>>>>all sorts of great and positive things.
>>>>
>>>>But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight impaired.
>>>>Tthat term does two very bad, bad, bad things.  First, it implies 
>>>>that sight is the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, 
>>>>and that if we don't have it, we SHOULD want it.  This is society
> talking, "Sight is better."
>>>>
>>>>Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of the 
>>>>ideal, or we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal.
>>>>This is very bad, bad, bad.
>>>>
>>>>Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind?  It shouldn't.  it should 
>>>>embrace it absolutely.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
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>>>>9:19 AM
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>>>>
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