[stylist] question

Angela fowler fowlers at syix.com
Thu Mar 26 04:40:08 UTC 2009 

Will do. Lol. 

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From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:13 PM
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Jump off and swim!  It might be the best way to avoid a catastrophe.
Barbara

If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of whom
you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.

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From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:57 PM
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> I will walk the gang plank now. (lol)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
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> O don't let me captain anyone's ship.  It's mine!  Get off!.
> Barbara
>
> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of 
> whom you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>
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> From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:09 AM
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>> She didn't invite us (lol) so we're stow-aways on the ship?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Aziza C
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:04 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [stylist] question
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>> Sometimes you don't need to kno where you were going, as long as you 
>> get there, so where ever Barbra was going in writing what she did, I 
>> think she got there. And she didn't even invite us. LOL. I liked what 
>> you wrote though, and I agree with it.
>>
>> On 3/24/09, James Canaday M.A.  N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> wrote:
>>> sadly,
>>> many of the terms, particularly "visually impaired"  have been 
>>> promoted by paternalistic researchers/professors.  I knew one at 
>>> kansas university.  had all kinds of publications, teaching that 
>>> circumlocution actually helped us blind, and when we disagreed she 
>>> dismissed our protests.
>>>
>>> if white professors published and insisted upon how blacks should be 
>>> labeled, how long would that last?
>>>
>>> unfortunately I had to take a class as a grad student from that
>>> crone.    crone is a technical term.
>>> she never accepted that we blind people accepted the term and chose 
>>> it for ourselves.
>>> jc
>>>
>>> Jim Canaday M.A.
>>> Lawrence, KS
>>>
>>> At 01:45 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
>>>>John, The reality, as much as you disagree, is that being sighted is 
>>>>better than being blind.  Terms like "visually impaired", "Visually 
>>>>challenged" or any of the like are legislated terms.  I can't see 
>>>>any better or worse when a bureaucrat describes my visual 
>>>>limitations.  I am what I am.  Like I said before, I have to take 
>>>>those limitations, do the best I can to do what I am capable of and 
>>>>continue striving to be the best me I can be.  I don't care how 
>>>>society looks at my limitations.  And, yes, they are limitations.  I 
>>>>have to be the one to deal with them.  Almost every person in this world
has limitations.
>>>>Some can create beautiful artwork, some can't.  Some can write 
>>>>beautifully, some can't put together a cognizant statement either 
>>>>verbally or in writing.  Some have athletic prowess while others are 
>>>>happy being couch potatoes.  Some love to eat while others are 
>>>>skinny and physically fit their entire life.  All "problems", all 
>>>>"limitations" when put in the perspective of the optimum and people 
>>>>all over the world live with them every day.  When was the last time 
>>>>you heard of the "art impaired" person?
>>>>Or the person who can't sing one note without causing distress to 
>>>>the other person's eardrums?  Are there cultures for the tone deaf?  
>>>>The person who can't draw a straight line?  John, deal with John.
>>>>Society has enough problems.  As a society we have a lot to deal 
>>>>with, but making John socially comfortable isn't one of them.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lee Clark"
>>>> <johnlee at clarktouch.com>
>>>>To: "'NFBnet Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:56 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Lori:
>>>>>
>>>>>I love the words blind and deaf.  I abhor anything with impaired in it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Although the definition of blind may say one who cannot see, and 
>>>>>that's a negative description, we still have the opportunity to 
>>>>>neutralize the word itself and have it convey something else 
>>>>>entirely, into something that's cool.  Same with deaf.  We can take 
>>>>>it and turn it around, and associate  it with culture, pride, ASL, 
>>>>>all sorts of great and positive things.
>>>>>
>>>>>But you can't neutralize and turn around a term like sight impaired.
>>>>>Tthat term does two very bad, bad, bad things.  First, it implies 
>>>>>that sight is the ideal, that it's right, and what we SHOULD have, 
>>>>>and that if we don't have it, we SHOULD want it.  This is society
>> talking, "Sight is better."
>>>>>
>>>>>Second, the term implies that we're broken or we're short of the 
>>>>>ideal, or we've fallen from the grace of what society says is normal.
>>>>>This is very bad, bad, bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does NFB merely "prefer" the word blind?  It shouldn't.  it should 
>>>>>embrace it absolutely.
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message.
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>>>>> 3/24/2009
>>>>>9:19 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
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