[stylist] Fantasy and the conservative reader?

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Mon Oct 5 15:26:18 UTC 2009


Barbara, This is why we have to strive to be the best we can be.  There are 
people in all kinds of occupations who are physically impaired.  Like us, 
they work to overcome their handicap to stand shoulder to shoulder with all 
other capable people in the world.  There are blind attorneys, doctors and 
other professionals.  There are those who are wheelchair bound who are 
capable of the same things as a totally mobile person.  I know a doctor with 
MS who continued in a hospital setting after his diagnosis as a 
diagnostician.  He could have continued as a family practice physician, but 
he found it easier to work as a diagnostician.  I also know of a fabulous 
doctor who quit his occupation because he could no longer hear with 
certainty the things a doctor pics up with blood pressure and heart 
irregularities.  I'm sorry he quit.  He was one of the best doctors around. 
Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Fantasy and the conservative reader?


> Another thing is that people see those of us as less than the people we 
> are because of the disability.  When white people had black people for 
> slaves, think of what they did when blacks were just property.  Blacks 
> were generally thought to be less of a person, hence making them more 
> animal than human.  Many people think of handicapped people in this way. 
> I would wager a bet that more handicapped people are abused physically and 
> sexually than we know because they only have honest folks to speak up for 
> them.
> Sex is not and should never have come to be a recreational activity.  It 
> was the downfall of the Greek and Roman societies.
> There is something to be said of the Biblical truth that when nations turn 
> from doing what's right in God's eyes and do what's right in their own 
> eyes, they will fall.
> Sex has a box where it belongs and should not spill into other things.  It 
> is a Pandora's box.
> Barbara
>
> Snow is God's way of reminding us that beauty can be found even in the 
> coldest hearts.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:25 AM
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Fantasy and the conservative reader?
>
>> Helene, I rather like fantasy.  I enjoyed Harry Potter as an 
>> entertainment form.  Conservatives aren't straight laced folks who don't 
>> know how to laugh.  One might think we never find anything to laugh 
>> about.  Not true. However, we stand for things that aren't laughing 
>> matters.
>> Now for your novel.
>> You are trying to do a lot with your plot, your characterization and the 
>> message  you are sending to your reader.  The message that deaf blind 
>> people are really people with the same needs and wants as those without 
>> these impairments is getting lost in your gray skinned characters who 
>> have loving dinasours as pets.  Helene, this is going to sound harsh, and 
>> perhaps it is. Either your characters are handicapped and their message 
>> has to get out or they represent fantasy characters with all kinds of 
>> make believe features. Helene, think long and hard about your book.  I'm 
>> afraid your choice right now is either or.   Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "helene ryles" <dreamavdb at googlemail.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:31 PM
>> Subject: [stylist] Fantasy and the conservative reader?
>>
>>
>>>I am getting contradictory advice again regarding my novel.
>>> Particularly wether on not to remove that last nude bit from chapter
>>> 14.
>>> Someone else told me to keep them in because only conservative readers
>>> would object and they wouldn't be interested in my book anyway.
>>> So I'm interested, particularly from Judith and Barbara who were the
>>> ones who objected to these scenes, wether they would be interested in
>>> fantasy based novels in the first place? Judith did seem interested in
>>> the beggining.
>>>
>>> It helps to know your reader but this is my first novel intended for
>>> outside views so I'm still finding my feet where my readership is
>>> concerned.
>>> I've removed the nude bit as it is not really central to the plot.
>>>
>>> What do other people think so far?
>>>
>>> Helene
>>>
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