[stylist] Ventrilo info

Mon Apr 26 00:21:05 UTC 2010

Do it, Peter and thank you very much!

Robert Leslie Newman
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-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 2:12 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] Ventrilo info

Good afternoon everyone,

    The whole subject of online collaboration has gotten a fare amount of
discussion on other blindness-related lists. If we're going to explore the
possibility of a voice chat facility we might as well go for an all-out
online collaboration tool that will also allow us to share documents in
addition to facilitating voice chat. I'll be glad to explore this
possibility Mr. President.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message -----
From: "BDM" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:33 PM
Subject: [stylist] Ventrilo info

Here is some basic info.

Voice Conference Option: Ventrilo (a free chat client)

Ventrilo can be downloaded at: http://www.ventrilo.com

Though I am not a daily or frequent user of this program, I have used it
when the need arose and found it to be reasonably simple to set up and very
easy to use. The quality of the audio is excellent, depending of course
upon one's internet connection type. I use a medium bit rate DSL account
and have had no trouble. It is free to client/users but the initial server
does have a minimal yearly cost to it dependent upon how many users are
allowed in at one given time.

There are two possible advantages of Ventrilo over Skype I'm considering as
I type here. A Ventrilo server only has a limited amount of people on it
while Skype has literally tens of millions using it at the same time which
could have a bearing on connection quality and general net exposure. The
other advantage of Ventrilo over Skype is conferencing with Skype may
require some initiating of each attendee by the person facilitating the
conference. There maybe an easier method but my limited knowledge on Skype
conferencing is the facilitator must add all attendees as a Skype contact,
once added, at time of the meeting, they must tick mark each contact In
their list who is to attend the meeting and then initiate the conference.
This could be cumbersome in the event a disconnection occurs or if someone
wants to join in late. That said, people do use it and again perhaps there
is a better method than my limited knowledge.

Continuing with Ventrilo information. The premise of this program is each
user downloads a simple client while one person serving as an admin would
download and set up a server. Once the server has been downloaded and set
up, the admin gives out the server information to anyone he or she wishes
to enable access. This gives a user freedom to log into the server
independently, such as if they arrive early or come late to the meeting for
some reason. Once logged into the room all that is needed is to listen to
the meeting or if you wish to talk, press the CTRL key, (I think the left
key), and you're on mike. It can be set up for hands free, however not
recommended for large groups.

Setting up Ventrilo:
The below information is based off my entering Ventrilo and simulating a
new install which should be pretty accurate.

Once the client, not the server, is downloaded and installed on an
attendee's or user's computer and you open Ventrilo, you should land on a
screen with various buttons check boxes and etc. Most all of these do not
need to be messed with unless one whishes to tweak the program.

The primary items that need to be entered here are your user name, room
name, host server/IP, and password which all are given you by the admin. .

Just tab over the various buttons and check boxes until you hear "user name
combo box". It will of course be empty. Tab once more to an unlabeled
button used to set up/enter your user name. You will again land on a combo
box. Tab once more to a button labeled "New". You will then be in an edit
field to enter your user name. Enter it and press enter. Tab a few times
past some other tweakable settings until you get to the OK button and press
enter.

Tab again and you will hear "server combo box" which again is empty. Tab
once more to the unlabeled button to enter the server information. When
pressing the unlabeled set up button you will land on an empty  combo box,
tab to the "new" button to enter in the name of the room given you by the
admin. You should then be brought to an edit field in that screen to enter
in your host server or IP information, port number, and password which the
server gave you.

There are some sundry options below that which are pretty straight forward
to set if you wish.  Accepting the defaults    in all the tweakables should
get you up and running.

All that should be required now is to start up Ventrilo at meeting time,
connect to the group and you're off.

Hope this is of help.

Brad

At 09:59 AM 4/25/2010, you wrote:
>Brad and others- all good suggestions, we do need to consider other 
>options.
>--- Those of you who use some of these alternative methods, all so far
>mentioned appear to be computer based, how about writing up a short
>description of how to get it and use it. Get people familiar with the idea,
>as in informed and then we all can make an educated choice.
>
>Thank you
>
>
>
>Robert Leslie Newman
>President NFB Writers' division
>Writers' Division Website-
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>Personal Website-
>http://www.thoughtprovoker.info
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of BDM
>Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:47 AM
>To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Monthly telephone gathering- this coming Sunday
>
>That would be very cool. However  muting the mikes I'd think would be
>necessary to avoid extraneous background noise. Also there is Ventrilo 
>which
>can be had fairly cheaply. A buddy of mine bought a room license for like
>$28 for up to 15 people for a year. The need to  mute a mike isn't 
>necessary
>as it is automatically muted unless you use the talk key. Some folks are
>familiar with this program too from other  internet  community gatherings.
>
>Brad
>
>At 06:06 AM 4/25/2010, you wrote:
> >That could be discussed.
> >
> >
> >
> >Robert Leslie Newman
> >President NFB Writers' division
> >Writers' Division Website-
> >http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
> >Personal Website-
> >http://www.thoughtprovoker.info
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:47 PM
> >To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [stylist] Monthly telephone gathering- this coming Sunday
> >
> >have you thought about having a skype conference call instead of on the
> >phone, you can do that also.
> >
> >Cheryl Echevarria
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> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
> >To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:45 PM
> >Subject: Re: [stylist] Monthly telephone gathering- this coming Sunday
> >
> >
> > > Neil, Jewel and others
> > >
> > > about calling in from out of country and for those without long
> > > distance
> > > plans- a 3 way would be super great! I'll contact free-conference
> > > and see what they tell me about calling in from Canada.. What goes
> > > through my uneducated thoughts are, that seeing how it is a USA
> > > based service and it is a US number, then -- we'd have to look at
> > > Neil's service, does it cover calling to the USA?
> > >
> > > And so, might there be some one who could call Jewel and do a 3 way?
> > > Email
> > > her if you can.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Leslie Newman
> > > President NFB Writers' division
> > > Writers' Division Website-
> > > http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
> > > Personal Website-
> > > http://www.thoughtprovoker.info
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Jewel S.
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:58 PM
> > > To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [stylist] Monthly telephone gathering- this coming
> > > Sunday
> > >
> > > A suggestion that has worked with a few groups I'm in...if anyone
> > > who is going to be in on the conversation has free long-distance for
> > > Canada (some plans include Canada and Mexico) and has
> > > three-way/conference calling, they can call in on the chat, then
> > > call Neil, there will be no charges on Neil's phone bill, but he can
> > > participate as if he called in for himself.
> > >
> > > On that note, if anyone does have conference calling, I would be
> > > grateful for a three-way into the chat. I don't have free
> > > long-distance; I have a more basic plan, which is all I can afford
> > > at this time, but it has a minute-by-minute charge. So, if anyone
> > > can do the three-way with me, give me a buzz via e-mail and I'll
> > > pass my phone number on to you.
> > >
> > > ~Jewel
> > >
> > > On 4/24/10, James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > neil,
> > > > 2 1 8   is not toll free so whatever your phone charges to call
> > > > it.  many of us have unlimited long distance here.
> > > > we certainly wouldn't mind a Canadian joining our discussion, in
> > > > my
> > > opinion.
> > > > jc
> > > >
> > > > At 12:22 PM 4/24/2010, you wrote:
> > > >>Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Is the call toll free, and if so does it include Canada?
> > > >>
> > > >>Neil
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>--------------------------------------------------
> > > >>From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:14 PM
> > > >>To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> > > >>Subject: [stylist] Monthly telephone gathering- this coming Sunday
> > > >>
> > > >>>RE: This coming Sunday, the 25th of April is the Writers'
> > > >>>Division's monthly gathering (the last Sunday of the month)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--As previously posted- this months gathering will feature two
> > > >>>special
> > > >>>events- First, is a opportunity to meet and talk with an editor
> > > >>>of an on-line magazine called "Breath and Shadow." this is a
> > > >>>magazine created by the disabled and seeks disabled authors and
> > > >>>pays for submissions. The editor, Chris Kuell is a member of the 
> > > >>>NFB
>Writers'
> > > >>>Division and I have finally lined Chris up to come on a monthly
> > > >>>gathering and to specifically talk to us and to answer our
> > > >>>questions about "Breath and Shadow" and about himself. Chris is a
> > > >>>great writer of short stories, and I'm sure of other forms of
> > > >>>writings, too. You can see some of Chris's stories in Slate and
> > > >>>Style; Chris Tooke first place in the 2010 Division writing contest
>and second in 2009.
> > > >>>immediately below is his bio-
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Biography
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Chris Kuell is a blind writer and advocate living in Western
> > > >>>Connecticut.
> > > >>> A
> > > >>>former research chemist, he lost his sight at thirty-five as a
> > > >>>result of diabetic retinopathy. A few years later, he learned how
> > > >>>to use a computer with speech output and turned his efforts to
> > > >>>writing. He's had more than  two dozen articles about blindness
> > > >>>published, and His fiction has appeared in Spillway Review, The
> > > >>>Sun, Breath and Shadow, Apollo's Lyre, Gambit,  Mountain Echoes,
> > > >>>Decomposition, Bewildering Stories, and Dialogue. He was an
> > > >>>editor and contributed to the anthology, Mountain Voices:
> > > >>>Illuminating the Character of West Virginia, as well as having a
> > > >>>short story in, Northern
> > > >>>Haunts: Terrifying Tales From New England. He is currently
> > > >>>seeking an agent/publisher for Disconnected, a novel about how
> > > >>>Alzheimer's disease affects a family and tests the bonds of love.
> > > >>>He is also hard at work on  his second novel, Rub It In, a novel
> > > >>>about a blind massage therapist caught in  a thorny love triangle.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>In January of 2008, he took over as Editor in Chief at Breath and
> > > >>>Shadow, the only paying literary journal written and edited
> > > >>>exclusively by people with disabilities.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--Our second feature of the evening is an opportunity for any
> > > >>>member to present, read a short example of their writing. This
> > > >>>would be for the purpose is an opportunity to get some on the
> > > >>>spot, constructive
> > > feedback.
> > > >>>This was suggested during last months gathering. this can be any
> > > >>>type of writing that you would wish to present.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>It has also been suggested, that if we do this again, how about
> > > >>>sending  the work out to members prior to the meeting date. Let's
> > > >>>talk about it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--The time for the gathering is- 8:30 PM Eastern; 7:30 PM
> > > >>>Central; 6:30 PM Mountain; 5:30 PM Pacific.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--The phone number to call is- 218-339-4300
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--the code is: 568839# (last character is a number sign)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Robert Leslie Newman
> > > >>>President NFB Writers' division
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