[stylist] Photography and Sighted Assistance

[Robert Leslie Newman]

Joe, After I take a batch of pictures, I always get my wife or a friend to
check out what've got. I bet I delete eight picks for everyone that I keep.
(I now have an IPhone and  need to figure out how to get the pics off of it.
Just haven't taken the time to work on it.)




Robert Leslie Newman
President NFB Writers' division 
Writers' Division Website-
http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
Personal Website- 
http://www.thoughtprovoker.info

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:21 PM
To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
Subject: [stylist] Photography and Sighted Assistance

Lori,

You misunderstand my point.  I am not one of those hard core blind people
who are opposed to sighted assistance by any means.  My point is that there
are a plethora of jobs where people can fulfill a job without the need for
sighted people to double check the results.  This is not to say that I do
not have my supervisor eyeball my outbound grant proposals before they are
submitted.  This does not mean that Peter Donahue does not have someone
sighted double check his web content before it goes live, but in both
examples, we are fully capable of assessing the work along the way so that
we can set our own standards for what is working and what is not.  I agree
that there are partially sighted people who can enlarge the images to make
their own evaluations, but then this becomes something of a dancing target,
because what is sufficient vision and what is the proper magnification tool?
I'm talking about people who cannot see at all or people who cannot see well
enough to determine for themselves what is poor, what is better, and what is
great.  I would personally hate to always have to rely on what other people
claim, because beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder.  This should give
me a sufficient self of fulfillment, but I guess I'm too much of a control
freak and would want to be able to independently gauge for myself that this
photo was great and that photo was whack.  Know what I mean?  But, as I
clearly pointed out, I've never given the issue much thought, so I'm willing
to learn.

Joe

“Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all.”--Sam Ewing 

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of loristay
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:03 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] Blindness and photography

What makes you think sighted people don't often ask for assistance from
others, whether sighted or blind?  No one is completely independent.  That's
the way of the world.
Lori
On Aug 8, 2010, at 11:38:31 PM, "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:

From:   "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
Subject:    Re: [stylist] Blindness and photography
Date:   August 8, 2010 11:38:31 PM EDT
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org> Dear all,

I haven't followed this thread. Forgive me if this has already been raised,
but how exactly do blind people know how to gauge the quality of their
product? This can't possibly be something one can independently measure
without sighted assistance, and at that point, doesn't it become
counterproductive? If pictures are taken for posterity, wouldn't a person
want that to be preserved at its best? I'm not bashing it, because I
genuinely don't know how blind people would do it. I'm open to
enlightenment, though I'm scanning through my e-mail and see that the topic
has been bounced about quite a bit already.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing 


_______________________________________________
Writers Division web site:
http://www.nfb-writers-division.org 
<http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>

stylist mailing list
stylist at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account 
info for stylist:
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/lorista
y%40aol.com

_______________________________________________
Writers Division web site:
http://www.nfb-writers-division.org 
<http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>

stylist mailing list
stylist at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account 
info for stylist:
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/jsorozc
o%40gmail.com


_______________________________________________
Writers Division web site:
http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>

stylist mailing list
stylist at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
stylist:
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/newmanrl%40cox.net