[stylist] question about philosophy

Fri Aug 20 14:55:39 UTC 2010

Bridget, Narrow minds come in different sizes, colors, and visual acuities. 
A jar for a consumer to pay for something they are buying from you is not 
begging nor does it represent a negative.  Girl Scouts don't have a money 
jar, but I never heard anything about their annual cookie sale.  Like lori 
alluded to some kids sell candy for school organizations.  Fund raising is a 
way to raise money for a good cause.  Tell your chapter members that they 
should go on line and search for non-profits that raise funds for their 
cause or the effectiveness of money jars in fund raising for a good cause. 
I was at a political gathering a few weeks ago and they held a split raffle. 
People put a certain amount in the "jar".  When the winning raffle number 
was announced the winner got half the pot and the organization got the other 
half.  A good and quick fund raiser.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "loristay" <loristay at aol.com>
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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] question about philosophy

Bridgit, if soliciting donations was against the NFB philosophy, NFB would 
be broke. it is not. I personally don't care for the idea of the money jar, 
but our chapter has used it in the past at the suggestion of some of our 
members. So long as you don't ask for the donations I can't see the harm. 
People are voluntarily giving donations.

Interacting with the public serves to educate people to the abilities of 
blind people. Get into a conversation with a member of the sighted public, 
and you will chip away at the prejudices he or she holds dear. My first 
convention opened me to what blind people could do. I met teachers! I met 
lawyers! I met people from all kinds of professions. I had no idea! Any 
contact is good contact, except perhaps begging, because that reinforces the 
stereotype. It is obvious to the public that you are part of an 
organization, which in itself is a positive thing, since it means you are 
not "begging" for yourself. You aren't begging at all. There is a great deal 
of difference between selling candy and asking for a quarter because you are 
"poor, miserable or blind."

The biggest quarrel here, as i see it, is the money jar. How much difference 
does it make? Can you do without it? maybe not, maybe so.
That is up to you.
Lori

On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:47:38 AM, "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
<bpollpeter at hotmail.com> wrote:

From:   "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
Subject:    [stylist] question about philosophy
Date:   August 20, 2010 12:47:38 AM EDT
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Hey gang,

I have a question I would like to present to the list. This was debated
tonight during my Chapter meeting, and I must admit, I am a bit upset.
Some implications were made about me and others of my Chapter, and I
wish to find out what others think.

Our Chapter participates in 3 to 4 Wal-mart meet and greets during the
year to raise funds and educate about the Federation. Wal-mart (for
those who do not know) allows groups and organizations to set tables up
outside their entrances, and we are able to promote our cause/event, and
sell items if we choose. Our chapter always, always has a product such
as candy bars or pop corn balls to sell along with NFB brochures. Many
of us stand (not sit) interacting with the public, handing out
information as well as trying to sell whatever item we have for that
particular meet and greet. Back in May we actually sold pink carnations
as it was right before Mother's Day, and in August we sold popcorn
balls, which were popular. On our table are the brochures and a money
jar so we can put the money into it. Some people choose to just donate
funds even though we will offer the product regardless.

Tonight, during my chapter meeting, a couple of members stated that
doing these events were against NFB philosophy. They felt that by
having a "money jar" (even though we always have and sell a product) was
putting a bad image of blindness out there. They implied that those who
have no problem with the money jar do not have a strong NFB philosophy.
It was suggested that donations of any kind are wrong, and we should not
take said donations because it gives people a negative image of
blindness.

I fail to see how the use of a "money jar" becomes the focal point of a
chapter event when we (the members) are interacting and conversing with
the public, selling a product and promoting the NFB and what we stand
for. If we simply sat there asking for money, I could see the argument,
but this is not the case. I am in fact against just standing on the
street and asking for money, but we have never done this. To say that a
jar of money some how over shadows the fact that blind people are
socializing, handling and collecting money, moving about doing
everything by ourselves, just makes me livid that some would imply we
have a bad philosophy that goes against what the Federation believes.

I would like to see what others think. I have internalized the opposing
argument, and I still feel the argument is silly. I must admit that I
am tired of narrow conceptions of what we must look, sound and act like
in order to fit a certain image. If getting off our asses and
interacting with society is wrong just because we use a jar as a vessel
to hold money, then go ahead and say I have a bad philosophy.

I really am interested to know what others think.

Bridgit P
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