[stylist] question about philosophy

Sat Aug 21 22:51:31 UTC 2010

Funny thing, Joe.  I was going to say that about you.  Let the debates
continue... *smile*

Take care,

Priscilla

On 8/21/10, Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
> Priscilla,
>
> You're just wrong, okay?  Because we said so. *grin*
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Priscilla McKinley
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] question about philosophy
>
> As I said, people have different opinions, which is a great thing.
> You are entitled to yours, just as I am entitled to mine.  *smile* If
> this came up in my chapter, we would just take a vote on the matter to
> decide if we should or shouldn't have a jar at a fundraiser.  In fact,
> out of curiosity, I might suggest this as a topic of discussion for
> our next chapter meeting to hear all the views on the matter.    I'm
> not saying that my opinion is right; I am just saying that I hold my
> opinion for various reasons, mostly based on the historical research I
> did for my dissertation and Dr. Jernigan's speeches.
>
> When I taught Rhetoric and Creative Nonfiction Writing at the
> University of Iowa, there were many opinions on many topics, including
> writing.  When workshopping, some people would tell a student to add
> more, while others would say the piece was great.  (Yes, this is a way
> to get back to the point of this list, which is mainly to discuss
> writing.)  If students wrote research papers, though, I would expect
> them to back up their opinions with evidence from outside sources.
> For this particular topic of discussion, I'm not sure that anyone
> could back up their arguments with reliable sources.  There are many
> history books out there that discuss the symbol of the tin cup, but
> that doesn't mean that a jar or container should or shouldn't be used.
>  Like I said, my personal opinion stems from the symbol of the cup
> from the past.
>
> As far as comparing the Make a Wish Foundation to the NFB, though, I
> have just two comments.  First, I would estimate that 99 percent of
> the general public have heard of the Make a Wish Foundation, while I
> bet about 99 percent of people have never heard of the NFB or at least
> what it represents.  Part of this has to do with advertising.  There
> are Make a Wish ads on TV and in magazines all the time.  Second, I
> bet most people know what the Make a Wish Foundation does with the
> money, while I bet they don't know what the NFB does with the money.
> In fact, if they don't know what the NFB is, they probably just see
> "blind" and think they're helping the blind.  They probably don't know
> about the programs we have to make lives better for blind people.
> Even with literature available and even if they take the literature,
> there's nothing saying they will read that literature.
>
> Finally, I don't think that I have "issues" just because my opinion is
> different from someone else's.  Like the discussion on the cars for
> the blind, there are many views.  People should not be attacked for
> their opinions.    I am open to the opinions of others and welcome
> them to learn and to grow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> On 8/21/10, The Crowd <the_crowd at cox.net> wrote:
>> The last time I worked a meet and greet with a plastic jar
> for change and
>> donations, guess what? Right across from us, working the same
> door, with the
>> same jar was the "Make A wish" foundation.
>>
>> I went over and put a buck in their jar, then they came and
> put one in mine.
>>
>> I never once thought, why those lazy begging pethetic kids.
> And they didn't
>> think that of us.
>>
>> Especially when you are engaging those folks walking by with
> things like,
>> "Want to buy a flower for Mothers Day? Or "We have ghost,
> pumpkin and witch
>> suckers!"
>>
>> Never once will yu ever hear, "Will you give us money?" "Can
> you support the
>> NFB?" "Anything will do!"
>>
>> "Will work for food!" Oh wait, that's the guy around the
> corner. A sighted
>> one!
>>
>> So I say this, anyone who has a problem with a plastic, jar
> sitting on a
>> table full of informational litature and products to sell and
> equates it to
>> a blind beggar, or who feels it being there is demeaning in
> some way, has
>> issues in themselves, blind or not.
>>
>> Atty
>>
>>
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