[stylist] Update on blind law student's fight to use Jaws on Barexam

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Wed Dec 1 04:50:44 UTC 2010 

Isn't that sad.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Update on blind law student's fight to use Jaws on 
Barexam


> Judith,
> You think you're frustrated. Imagine being my friend Jeanne Marie Moore, 
> who fought for accessible exams in California back in the '80s. There was 
> a law passed and everything, and still here we go. I think the answer to 
> your question is that yes, we still have to proove blind people are human.
> Donna
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> On 11/30/2010 5:24 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>> Donna, Situations like this totally baffle me.  We learned decades ago 
>> that just because someone has a different skin color, they are people 
>> first.  In a PC world you can't deny a qualified person a position 
>> because they have a handicap unrelated to the position.  For example, you 
>> can't deny a blind or whealchair bound person equal access to the bar 
>> exam.  Are we still fighting for equal rights?  Do we still have to prove 
>> that just because a person is a member of a minority we first have to 
>> prove that he or she is also a human being?  Now that we've concluded 
>> that all of this is BS, why is a US court wasting time deciding if a 
>> blind student can use adaptive equipment in order to complete the exam? 
>> Give her a computer devoid of anything except the exam, give her 
>> earphones, wish her luck and let her fill out the exam. Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Update on blind law student's fight to use Jaws on 
>> Barexam
>>
>>
>>> Ah, Judith, but this is for the Bar exam. Surely the people involved are 
>>> aware of the law. Maybe employing a judge and lawyers is the point. Just 
>>> being facitious, as I am really at a loss to explain how things like 
>>> this still happen.
>>> Donna
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>>> On 11/30/2010 3:17 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>> Sean, I disagree with you.  If a person can't walk, giving them a 
>>>> whealchair makes sense.  Helping them find a home where everything is 
>>>> on one floor and they have easy access to the house or apartment makes 
>>>> perfect sense.  If someone is deaf then helping them get a car adapted 
>>>> for a deaf person makes sense.  If a person is blind and can't read a 
>>>> written exam but knows how to work on adaptive equipment allowing them 
>>>> to take their exam on that equipment using a headset makes perfect 
>>>> sense. True, people who aren't handicapped don't want to think about 
>>>> the possibility, but in the back of their mind they know these things 
>>>> exist and can happen to anyone because of accident or illness.  My 
>>>> complaint with this whole court thing is that using common sense you 
>>>> can solve the problem, the woman can take her bar exam using adaptive 
>>>> equipment and life goes on without employing a judge and jury.  Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacobson, Shawn D" 
>>>> <Shawn.D.Jacobson at hud.gov>
>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Update on blind law student's fight to use Jaws 
>>>> on Barexam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Judith
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right, all of this just makes common sense to a blind person. 
>>>>> To a sighted person, nothing about blindness makes common sense 
>>>>> because in order for it to make common sense you have to think about 
>>>>> it and the last thing a sighted person wants to do is to think about 
>>>>> blindness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Judith Bron
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:31 PM
>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Update on blind law student's fight to use Jaws 
>>>>> on Bar exam
>>>>>
>>>>> Situations like this are so common sense that one has to wonder why 
>>>>> they
>>>>> made it into the courts at all.  Give the person using a screen reader 
>>>>> a
>>>>> headset and let them take their test be it a final exam for elementary 
>>>>> or
>>>>> high school,  College exams or a professional licensing exam.  Aren't 
>>>>> we
>>>>> taught as sighted children that we have to look both ways before 
>>>>> crossing
>>>>> the street?  Aren' the sight impaired taught to listen for cars?  Now 
>>>>> we
>>>>> have to go to court to impress on them that the blind have to hear a 
>>>>> car or
>>>>> risk being struck down.  I can' be the only one who craves common 
>>>>> sense in a
>>>>> system where it seems we have to go to court to be given the right to
>>>>> breathe.  We certainly can't go to the airports for rights.  Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
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>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:55 PM
>>>>> Subject: [stylist] Update on blind law student's fight to use Jaws on 
>>>>> Bar
>>>>> exam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Friends,
>>>>> Just came across the following article on the San Fransisco Lighthouse
>>>>> site and thought some of you might be interested. I'm copying the
>>>>> article after the URL.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>
>>>>> ***
>>>>> Blindness Civil Rights Advocacy Alert
>>>>> http://www.lighthouse-sf.org/blog/blindness-civil-rights-advocacy-alert/
>>>>>
>>>>> San Francisco continues to be a legal crucible for blindness civil
>>>>> rights and on Monday, December 6, 2010, the next chapter in our long
>>>>> struggle will take
>>>>> place in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. If you want to witness how
>>>>> civil rights are won one step at a time, please consider attending 
>>>>> this
>>>>> hearing and
>>>>> lending your support.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following is an announcement from Stephanie Enyart's legal team:
>>>>> "The blind community is encouraged to rally behind Ms. Stephanie 
>>>>> Enyart
>>>>> as her case
>>>>> is argued before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.
>>>>> Ms. Enyart is a blind law school graduate seeking admission to the
>>>>> California Bar.
>>>>> She has requested to use JAWS on the Bar Exam. The testing entity 
>>>>> denied
>>>>> her request citing security concerns. It is important for the court, 
>>>>> the
>>>>> press
>>>>> and other interested parties to understand that the blind community
>>>>> cares about this issue. Blind students should be able to take
>>>>> standardized tests using
>>>>> their assistive technology. It is no longer acceptable that all blind
>>>>> test-takers should be required to use only human readers when their
>>>>> preferred method
>>>>> of accessing print may be through another method such as computer 
>>>>> screen
>>>>> review programs. Members of the blind community are encouraged to 
>>>>> attend
>>>>> the public
>>>>> hearing on December 6 to show their support for Ms. Enyart's 
>>>>> position."
>>>>>
>>>>> Attendees will need a government-issued photo ID to enter the 
>>>>> courtroom.
>>>>>
>>>>> When: Monday, December 2010, 1:00 p.m.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where: John R. Browning U.S. Courthouse, United States Court of 
>>>>> Appeals
>>>>> - 9th Circuit, Courtroom 3, 3rd Floor
>>>>>
>>>>> Address: 95 Seventh Street, San Francisco, California 94103
>>>>>
>>>>> Please share this with your contacts to ensure a strong turnout in
>>>>> support of Ms. Enyart and blindness civil rights.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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