[stylist] article from Debra Kendrick

Donna Hill penatwork at epix.net
Tue Jan 26 22:57:12 UTC 2010


Hi All,
I just don't get why Paterson is the focus, not Sloate who flat out 
calls for Braille's abolishment, or the New York Times, which didn't do 
anything at all about Braille literacy while the coin was available.
Donna


Judith Bron wrote:
> You have a point there.  I think it is unrealistic for us to expect 
> him to turn up at the state capitol with a white cane.  He isn't going 
> to brail everything in his office.  If he had gone into his position 
> using these skills no one would have given it a second thought.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] article from Debra Kendrick
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>> But then, when you're in the position that he is and you decide to 
>> learn some blindness skills, what do you think those around you would 
>> say? "Gee, you made it this long without them, why are you going to 
>> waste your time now?" etc.  To the public, he would even look weaker 
>> than he is now if he took up a long white cane and a Braille class.  
>> I guess he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
>> But you are right that he is a grown man.  When he does begin to 
>> learn these skills--if he does--he will be so sad that he didn't take 
>> the time when he was younger.  And if he never decides to make the 
>> decision to learn, I hope that he will see how the skills can greatly 
>> enhance other blind persons' lives.  Don't say that because you don't 
>> need it, no one else does.
>> I can't imagine how it must be to purposefully stay illiterate, 
>> though. This tactile learner would have missed out on so much--I hate 
>> listening to things.  A pleasure book is fine but I'm wishing I were 
>> a young person today getting ready for college.  I may have gotten 
>> better grades if I'd had Braille there, too.
>> Barbara
>> A Congress that will always do its work in the dark must have 
>> something to hide.  The people have spoken, yet they do not listen.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:38 PM
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] article from Debra Kendrick
>>
>>> I agree that if this is how he was raised, it might be hard to 
>>> change. However, he's now an adult and well aware that people who 
>>> are handicapped live their lives using techniques that aren't needed 
>>> by the mainstream world.  He spoke at a convention.  That's not a 
>>> prescription for a person who understands the people he's talking 
>>> to.  He knows that blind folks use a white cane.  He knows that the 
>>> blind read braille.  He knows that the NYS Commission buys adaptive 
>>> equipment for the blind.  All of us have to grow up at some point 
>>> and face who we are.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] article from Debra Kendrick
>>>
>>>
>>>> Judith,
>>>> I think you're being a bit harsh here on the first blind governor 
>>>> willing to speak at an NFB state affiliate convention. Read his 
>>>> comments in the NY Times article "Listening to Braille" or, if 
>>>> that's too long, read them quoted in my article "Braille Literacy 
>>>> Crisis: Fact or Fiction."
>>>> http://educationalissues.suite101.com/article.cfm/2009_in_review_progress_for_the_blind 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People who spend their childhoods being given the message that it 
>>>> isn't OK to be blind have a tough row to hoe.
>>>> Donna Hill
>>>>
>>>> Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>> Patterson doesn't need newsline.  He has a radio, television and 
>>>>> people in his office who access websites whenever he wants.  He's 
>>>>> the governor of a state, but he has no idea on how to be an 
>>>>> independent person. He's not a blind man, he's a man who has been 
>>>>> coddled all his life and has had gophers get him whatever he 
>>>>> wants, whenever he wants it.  He probably can't figure out why 
>>>>> blind folks need different equipment, need instruction on simple 
>>>>> life tasks or need to read these dots called braille.  He never 
>>>>> had to.  But then again, most of us don't live in a privilaged 
>>>>> world where gophers do everything for us on command.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] article from Debra Kendrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I forwarded the article to Carl Jacobsen, president of the New York
>>>>> Affiliate.   To the best of my knowledge, Gov. Paterson does use 
>>>>> Newsline, but I
>>>>> could be wrong.   In any case, unless the Commission comes through 
>>>>> with
>>>>> funding, we will lose Newsline as of January 31.   The governor 
>>>>> has instructed the
>>>>> Commission for the Blind to distribute the funds.   Let's hope 
>>>>> they do it.
>>>>> Lori
>>>>> In a message dated 1/24/10 1:27:12 PM, jbron at optonline.net writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great article! There are many who vote for a candidate because of 
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> race,
>>>>>> religion, disability or lack of one. I will label these factors (a).
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> does any of this have to do with ability or job performance? 
>>>>>> Label these
>>>>>> factors (b). Nothing. In other words, a has nothing to do with b. 
>>>>>> Many
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the citizens of this country have decided to base their vote on
>>>>>> differences.
>>>>>> Ignorant. If, in spite of the fact that people have been put down 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> of their race, religion or disability shines through and gotten 
>>>>>> them to a
>>>>>> point that they have the ability and can perform above the 
>>>>>> opposition,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> become someone to be celebrated. If they choose to hide behind 
>>>>>> any of
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> factors and use them as the sole criteria for anyone to vote for 
>>>>>> them,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are no better than the bigots who shaped public policy for 
>>>>>> centuries.
>>>>>> Judith Bron
>>>>>>
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