[stylist] Working definition of Creative non-fiction
Bridgit Pollpeter
bpollpeter at hotmail.com
Sat May 1 21:02:04 UTC 2010
Hello folks,
I write fiction as well as non-fiction, but my major is in creative non-fiction. In a nutshell, creative non-fiction applies fictional techniques to non-fiction. Non-fiction itself is a very broad genre. There is personal essay, memoir, autobiography, etc. Elements of all of these can be used together as well as separately.
When critiquing any non-fiction there is not much difference between fiction critiquing. The basic elements apply. Some great examples of creative non-fiction writer's would be David Sedaris, Joan Didian, Annie Dillard, Meghan Daum, Gertrude Stein, James Baldwin, just to name a few.
Creative non-fiction is not exactly new, but contemporary writers are taking it to new heights. It can be experimental as well as traditional.
By the by, just like fiction, non-fiction does not have to be written in a linear narrative. The piece I submitted for review is not written as a linear narrative if that helps anyone.
Hope this all makes sense. Any questions? *smile*
Bridgit P
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:17:51 -0400
> From: "Neil Butters" <neil.butters at sympatico.ca>
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> Hi Bridgit,
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> If you are concerned about the ending of your work, you can bring it back to the beginning: You leave the church for example.
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> Neil
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> concedr
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:25:38 -0700
> From: "Angela Fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
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> Subject: [stylist] Article I wrote
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> Hey guys, let me know what you think about this.
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> Angela, What did you write this for? If it is for an NFB publication or
> any other I think you should some how put the fact you are blind at the
> beginning of the piece. It would give the reader additional insight into
> Angela the person. I think you describe your feelings about the college
> environment very well. Judith
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> From: "Angela Fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
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> I just yanked this out of my head this morning. Maybe I'll save the part
> about blindness for last? Kind of an oh by the way.
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> Angela, What did you write this for? If it is for an NFB publication or
> any other I think you should some how put the fact you are blind at the
> beginning of the piece. It would give the reader additional insight into
> Angela the person. I think you describe your feelings about the college
> environment very well. Judith
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> If you're going to publish it in a format other than NFB, it will open the
> eyes of others to realize that blind people can accomplish as much, if not
> more, than anyone else. Judith
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> >I just yanked this out of my head this morning. Maybe I'll save the part
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> > Angela, What did you write this for? If it is for an NFB publication or
> > any other I think you should some how put the fact you are blind at the
> > beginning of the piece. It would give the reader additional insight into
> > Angela the person. I think you describe your feelings about the college
> > environment very well. Judith
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> In case you don't remember, I'm the guy last summer in Detroit who was on
> the elevator with you screaming full at the top of our lungs when others
> tried to enter the elevator.
> So I ask, "how are you doing fellow full club member!"
> Anyway, the article is well written, but you may want to tell the reader
> that you are blind so that they understand why this is significant. Also,
> tell them what the abbreviation of the disability office is. Remember, the
> average reader won't know what that is.
> Cheers.
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:36:50 -0700
> From: "Angela Fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
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> Justin, I do remember that. That was funny, and it got us where we needed to
> go a lot faster than we would have gotten there otherwise.
> Will you be going to Dallas?
>
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> In case you don't remember, I'm the guy last summer in Detroit who was on
> the elevator with you screaming full at the top of our lungs when others
> tried to enter the elevator.
> So I ask, "how are you doing fellow full club member!"
> Anyway, the article is well written, but you may want to tell the reader
> that you are blind so that they understand why this is significant. Also,
> tell them what the abbreviation of the disability office is. Remember, the
> average reader won't know what that is.
> Cheers.
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:48:19 -0500
> From: BDM <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
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> Hi Angela,
>
> Congrats on your upcoming graduation. I suppose it might serve purpose to
> know what the article was written for, a newsletter to fam and friends, a
> blog entry, an inspirational piece to other students, an article for a
> blindness mag, etc. Seemed short for an "article" though againd depends on
> the target. I like the sentiment and feelings you have going. What stood
> out to me was...
>
> "I've learned to analyze work that I disagree with and state my own views
> with persuasion rather than rhetoric. Most importantly however, I have
> learned to learn again; to study and take in information rather than only
> spouting what I already know."
>
> To me, that speaks of a wise person :).
>
> Brad
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:20:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Kerry Thompson <uinen at earthlink.net>
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> Hi friends,
>
> An NLS style warning notice is familiar to most of us and would serve as a good model. I agree with Jim that variations might be appropriate in some cases. I also agree that the onus is on the author to give honest and accurate info about her/his work. As we've seen with Bridget's work, a statement of genre or type would also be helpful.
>
> Bridget, could you please give a brief statement of what creative nonfiction is? Like Neil, I don't quite know.
>
> Solidarity and Peace,
> Kerry
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:23:32 -0500
> From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
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> Subject: [stylist] Important article on publishing
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> You might want to save this one folks.
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/04/26/100426fa_fact_auletta
>
>
> Write on,
> Atty
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:38:45 -0500
> From: BDM <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
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> Subject: [stylist] Feedback request, General content: Minneapolis Bus
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> Any and all feedback is appreciated. Target might be publications looking
> for light hearted true stories. Content is rated G, general.
> In professional songwriting evaluations some ask how one wants feedback.
> Ranging from "Go easy on me" to "Give it to me straight I can take it". I
> always opt for the latter with request to not leave out stuff they feel
> works or they like. For any future evaluations/feedback here that's how
> I'll assume its given provided its worth your spending memory real estate
> haha.
>
>
> Minneapolis Bus
>
> Having been diagnosed with a retinal disease some years back. I had decided
> to counteract the traumatic trick life had played and take a proactive
> approach. Before I lost usable vision I sought out an adjustment to
> blindness training center in Minneapolis Minnesota. This training center is
> called Blindness Learning In New Dimensions or BLIND Inc. for short, and
> was affectionately yet quite accurately, known as the "boot camp for blind
> folks".
>
> Though apprehensions existed in what life would mean as a blind person, I
> looked forward to the challenge of learning skills that would enable me to
> live life successfully independent.
>
> Besides learning skills as white cane travel, cooking for a large group of
> people, reading and writing Braille, and other daily life skills
> accomplished strictly under blind folds , one final requirement must be met
> using all of the mobility skills learned. In order to graduate a student
> must solely complete what is known as a five mile "graduation walk". While
> blindfolded students follow a list of Braille directions instructing them
> to cross noisy intersections, direct them to specific park locations, cross
> bridges; board certain buses and make their way back to the training center.
>
> Upon successful return, a freedom bell is rung in their honor and as if a
> congratulations button were pressed, peers and staff come applauding from
> classrooms with smiles, hand shakes, and pats on the back as they share
> victory over the test.
>
> The day of my graduation walk turned out to be an unseasonably warm one,
> and about three quarters of the way into my five mile graduation course, my
> legs found great relief on the city transit portion of the test. On the
> surprisingly quiet bus with nothing else to do but listen to the engine
> roar and a buzzing fly next to me crashing its head into the window in
> efforts to escape, my attention was occasionally given to the entrance and
> exit of passengers at the stops.
>
> At one particular stop my ear picked up on a huge group of young elementary
> kids boarding and consuming every available seat, leaving teachers and a
> few chivalrous passengers standing holding on to the grab bars. Excited
> conversation assured me the kids were on an early morning field trip.
>
> Sensing unusual activity at the front of the bus after the kids got on; I
> curiously cheated by lifting my blindfold to find two gents were boarding
> rather boisterously. Apparently they were still "having a night out";
> unaware the sun had risen right along with their blood alcohol level. One
> stared down the isle with concentrated beady eyes, pulled focus enough to
> find the bus full, and stood up front droopily hugging the vertical grab
> bar with both hands. The other fellow cockily swaggered about the bus
> exploring for a seat, using passenger's shoulders like rails in bumper
> bowling. The kid's chatter diminished as even they became aware of the
> state these two gents were in. Mid way down the long isle and recognizing
> the bus was full, the second fellow settled quietly to a staggered stance
> next to a nervous teacher. Both stood quiet, as did the rest of the bus
> with only the roar of the engine and squeak of the brakes for audible
> entertainment.
>
> Finally breaking the intense silence, the adventurous drunk swung his head
> sideways staring at the teacher, head bobbing from the bumpy ride and
> alcohol content. With half mast eyes he looked at the teacher and said?
>
> "Pardon me sir."
>
> The Teacher nervously returned the look replying
>
> "Yes?"
>
> The inebriated man proceeded
>
> "Do you know Jesus Christ?"
>
> Wide eyed and perplexed at the source of the question, the teacher replied
>
> "Why, ah, yes. I do."
>
> The drunken man returned his bobbing head to a forward position slurring in
> apparent amazement?
>
> "Well it sure is a small world isn't it?"
>
> ?2010 Brad Dunse
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:14:28 -0500
> From: BDM <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> To: Writers Division <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Important article on publishing
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> Informative article. If book publishing follows after music publishing, it
> is in for a world of hurt. The music industry was hit big time with
> digital media. Many acts these days look at CDs as tokens to get them to
> concerts to sell merchandise and etc. This of course isn't doable for
> authors accept in book signings and isn't really set up for that type of
> promotion. There is also exploration being done to add additional media
> to music CDs which hasn't really taken off yet... perhaps that will save
> the pricing structure of books, however it takes a lot more resources,
> talent and time to accomplish multi-media books so $ for work is still
> probably not so hot.
>
> Years ago you'd buy a car and the registration fee was based on the
> weight, why? Of course they were heavy boats riding around. When the
> lighter sub compact cars came out and the large cars were fading into the
> sunset, the states saw financial loss coming and subsequently changed the
> fee base to year of model.
>
> Similarly book pricing ought be based not on what it costs to make a book,
> but the consumer value it is, the knowledge or content based fee. People
> are employed and paid according to their knowledge and value to employers,
> books ought be no different.
>
> After all, it takes less than a minute and the cost of a mediocre dinner
> to make a person, but look at the time and resources it takes to make a
> book. *smile* Little levity to lighten the load.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:50:35 -0500
> From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Article I wrote
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> dear Angela,
> yes,
> please define DSPS, and I know what Sac State is, but most people
> don't. where is this going to be printed/distributed?
> and, here's the tough criticism:
> there were several brief references that left me wanting the particulars.
> The instructors who went out of their way to work with me, [such as?]
> the students who sought too understand me,[such as?] the DSPS staff
> who made my life so much easier.[who? and btw you were lucky, many
> DSPS are paternalistic, overbearing, and don't know what the heck
> they're doing!] I've met many who I count my personal friends, and
> who will be for the rest of my life.[tell a specific friend story?]
> They've seen me driven almost too tears by the unjust, to anger at
> the senseless, and to hysterical laughter at the silly and
> humorous.[a funny story would be nice] Through the trials and the
> smiles they have been with me, and it is to them that I owe a good
> measure of my success.
> What a variety of things I have learned and rediscovered! I've
> learned to better predict the behavior of humans and the patterns of
> the weather, both of which are far more complex than solving the
> quadratic equation, once you get the hang of it.[one story for
> example?] I've rediscovered my love for writing and my fascination
> with history. I've learned to analyze work that I disagree with and
> state my own views with persuasion rather than rhetoric.
>
>
> ---now, this is a positive piece and Angela I can really feel your
> joy in graduating! also, I say congratulations, and its okay if you
> take a verbal victory lap too, 'cuz you did the hard work.
> jc
>
> 30/2010, you wrote:
> >Hey guys, let me know what you think about this.
> >
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> Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 04:14:54 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Article I wrote
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> No, I won't be in dalace. However, I will be in Orlando.
> Cheers.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angela Fowler
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:37 PM
> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Article I wrote
>
> Justin, I do remember that. That was funny, and it got us where we needed to
> go a lot faster than we would have gotten there otherwise.
> Will you be going to Dallas?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:20 PM
> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Article I wrote
>
> In case you don't remember, I'm the guy last summer in Detroit who was on
> the elevator with you screaming full at the top of our lungs when others
> tried to enter the elevator.
> So I ask, "how are you doing fellow full club member!"
> Anyway, the article is well written, but you may want to tell the reader
> that you are blind so that they understand why this is significant. Also,
> tell them what the abbreviation of the disability office is. Remember, the
> average reader won't know what that is.
> Cheers.
>
>
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