[stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST

Judith Bron jbron at optonline.net
Tue May 4 21:49:27 UTC 2010


Aziza, I'm glad you have been reading advanced material.  I'm not in a 
position, nor do I want to be, to tell other families how to raise their 
kids.  As a parent, the material available out there with a click or 
keystroke is scary.  Keep reading.  You will be the better for it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aziza Cano" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST


>I simply commented the way other list members did. And, being a teen I will 
>honestly answer, that I would read on regardless of the warnings, I have 
>always read above my grade level, and my mother has never had an interest 
>in what I've read. As others felt they could comment on the outcome of this 
>discussion I decided to follow suit.
> Thank you.
> Aziza
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST
>
>
>> Aziza, Obviously this argument isn't going away.  If a teenager opens an 
>> email stating that the material contains explicit descriptions of sex 
>> what do you think the kid will do?  Will he scream, "Mom, can I read 
>> this?" Will he simply delete it because he knows his mom wouldn't want 
>> him to read it? If his mom tells him not to read it will he read it 
>> anyways?  It doesn't take a genius to figure out those answers.  Do you 
>> think that just because the "Open" minds of an NFB list decided it was 
>> all right no kid was going to read anything not acceptable?  You've made 
>> your decision. Right or wrong, why is it being rehashed?  Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Aziza Cano" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST
>>
>>
>>>I agree. Simple warnings should do the trick, and if people choose to 
>>>read on despite the warnings, they accept responsibility for any offense 
>>>the text might cause.
>>> Aziza
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think the simpler the better, right at the beginning of the e-mail:
>>>> contains strong language;
>>>> contains explicit descriptions of sex;
>>>> contains violence.
>>>>
>>>> we are familiar with the NLS ratings.
>>>>
>>>> not to restrict the thoughtfulness of an author, if he or she has text 
>>>> that a conservative christian might find offensive, a warning like
>>>> "religiously offensive material"
>>>>
>>>> might do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> point is, the one who posts takes responsibility.
>>>> jc
>>>>
>>>> At 04:30 AM 4/29/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>Barbra and Jim and others who would like the warning to read more
>>>>>specifically:
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, the warning could be more specific. If one of you or a couple or
>>>>>several of you wish to get it worded out (there was an interesting 
>>>>>phrase),
>>>>>then we can ask that it be used. (I was thinking that just may  be "the
>>>>>next" point needing clarification.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>thank you all- this mailing list can truly be one of our best 
>>>>>resources. And
>>>>>I say "can be," if we respectfully and intelligently make it be.
>>>>>
>>>>>Write on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Respectfully yours
>>>>>Robert Leslie Newman
>>>>>President NFB Writers' division
>>>>>Writers' Division Website-
>>>>>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>Personal Website-
>>>>>http://www.thoughtprovoker.info
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:23 PM
>>>>>To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST
>>>>>
>>>>>Just "contains adult content"?  I'd think it more relevant to write
>>>>>"contains strong language" or "contains violence" or "contains 
>>>>>descriptions
>>>>>of sex".  Adult content is pretty broad.  I, personally, might read if 
>>>>>it
>>>>>had two of the statements but not the other.  It's what the Braille 
>>>>>Book
>>>>>Review does so one be informed.
>>>>>Barbara
>>>>>
>>>>>A Congress that will always do its work in the dark must have something 
>>>>>to
>>>>>hide.  The people have spoken, yet they do not listen.
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 7:44 PM
>>>>>To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Ruling on posting adult content to STYLIST
>>>>>
>>>>> > Division and STYLIST members:
>>>>> > RE: What is allowable to be posted to STYLIST
>>>>> >
>>>>> > as the President of the Division I have made a decision on what 
>>>>> > types
>>>>> > of writing samples will be allowed to be posted to STYLIST for
>>>>> > critique. This decision has come about after reading all messages
>>>>> > relating to members who were good enough to post their feelings. I
>>>>> > have also consulted the NFB webmaster to get his perspective on 
>>>>> > rules
>>>>> > that he is aware of , that you and I have not had to know of, until
>>>>> > now.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thus, based upon the general consensus of STYLIST members, and on 
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > NFB webmaster's  answer that there is not a specific ruling against
>>>>> > allowing the posting of the type of content we have been debating, 
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > because this Division and this forum is one of our major conduits 
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > seeking one another's assistance to improve our craft, it is hereby
>>>>> > ruled that members of this list can feel free to now post samplings 
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > any type of their work for helpful critique. the only requirement is
>>>>> > that you place a warning that the message contains adult content.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Robert Leslie Newman
>>>>> > President NFB Writers' division
>>>>> > Writers' Division Website-
>>>>> > http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>> > <blocked::http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>>>>> > Personal Website-
>>>>> > http://www.thoughtprovoker.info
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