[stylist] Spell Check/ Jaws Anomalies

Sun Nov 7 22:38:42 UTC 2010

Hi guys, Jaws 7.1 seems to be OK.  I've checked long documents, emails and 
other things in between and it seems to be doing a good job.  From what I've 
seen here the newer the version, the worse the spell check.  You might want 
to ask Freedom about that.  Judith
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> Donna,
>
> MS Word is MS Weird at times. The test on the below sentences:
>
> Did you see how he typed this thing?, You just never know how things will 
> go,. I think it is time to do something about this problem.
>
> The only thing it flagged was the question mark  followed by the comma 
> after "thing" and then defaulted to the question mark. Then it flagged the 
> "You" as being capitol after a comma. It didn't even catch the other 
> comma/period issue.
>
> Also I'm using Jaws 12 with Text Analyzer and it didn't catch any of it 
> either.
>
> Brad
>
> On 11/7/2010  11:18 AM Donna Hill said...
>>Hi All,
>>After Lori mentioned that my synopsis might have a period followed by a 
>>comma, I was reminded of my ongoing efforts to understand MS Word's Spell 
>>Check, as it relates to Jaws, and thought you might like to have the 
>>results of a little experiment.
>>
>>I have accidentally found similar problems after spell checking and am 
>>trying to figure out what's going on. First, there are two major ways this 
>>sort of error is caused. Obviously the period and comma are next to each 
>>other and it is possible to hit them both at the same time. Also, in 
>>editing, we move phrases around and sometimes forget to remove a period 
>>which is no longer at the end of a sentence.
>>
>>Then, there's the matter of divining how Spell Check is responding to this 
>>and how the screen reader is reading or not reading Spell Check. I did an 
>>experiment ending one sentence with a comma followed by a period and 
>>another with it reversed. Jaws 11 with Word 2003 picked them up as 
>>punctuation errors, but does not read them in such a way that you know 
>>what's going on. In the second case, it didn't even say the word and I had 
>>to tab to the suggestion list to find out what it was referring to and 
>>what the suggested punctuation was. This is difficult when you have 
>>complex sentences, but I'm plugging it in to always double-check every 
>>punctuation mark in a sentence that comes up with a punctuation error. 
>>Word's suggestions are not reliable. In the case of double punctuation 
>>marks, it seems to pick the first one as its first suggestion. This was 
>>true when a comma was followed by a period, even though the next sentence 
>>started with a capital letter.
>>
>>Another related matter surfaced when I started reading my book on 
>>Booksense. There were a few paragraphs which did not have a final period. 
>>I obviously missed them on Spell Check, and when Jaws read it, the 
>>paragraph break made it sound like the sentence came to an end, so I 
>>didn't pick it up there either. The Booksense, however, has a less 
>>sophisticated document reader and made it sound like a run-on sentence, so 
>>I now listen for that specifically. Ultimately, I suppose, there's no 
>>substitute for someone sighted to double-check, but I want to make their 
>>job as simple as possible. No one is going to pick up everything.
>>Donna
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