[stylist] Punctuation and editing

Tue Nov 9 20:33:47 UTC 2010

One other thing, when editing, I will go through whatever I am working
on multiple times, each time looking for specific things.  So in one
read, I will be paying attention to punctuation, the next read, I will
make sure all quotes are correct, the next read, I will be looking for
sentence structure, etc.  Again, it takes time, but it works.

Along with specific tools that come along with JAWS and reading through
for specific reasons, has worked for me.

Bridgit

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   1. Editing with JAWS (Bridgit Pollpeter)
   2. Re: Editing with JAWS (Donna Hill)
   3. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
   4. Re: Editing with JAWS (Brad Dunse)
   5. Re: Editing with JAWS (Alan)
   6. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
   7. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
   8. Re: Editing with JAWS (Alan)
   9. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
  10. punctuation (Jean Parker)
  11. Re: punctuation (Justin H. Williams)
  12. Re: punctuation (Judith Bron)
  13. Re: Editing with JAWS (Alan)
  14. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
  15. Re: punctuation (Marion Gwizdala, M.S.)

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:50:36 -0600
From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
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Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Hey guys,

First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same spelling,
grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a quick plug for
Braille.  *smile*

If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult as
you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will read
all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS
window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab until
you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short cut is to
press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue box, then
it will list different options, press P until you hear punctuation,
press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you hear
"all."

By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting (probably
after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for editing
purposes.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Bridgit

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:23:24 -0500
From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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Bridget,
Thanks, switching Jaws to read all punctuation is an excellent 
suggestion. It never even occurred to me. It's a pain when you're just 
reading something, but for editing it's a great idea. That will probably

make a difference in how Jaws reads Spell Check as well.
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On 11/8/2010 1:50 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable 
> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
> spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a 
> quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>
> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult 
> as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big

> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will 
> read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the 
> JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab 
> until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short 
> cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity 
> dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you 
> hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do 
> this until you hear "all."
>
> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
> (probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for 
> editing purposes.
>
> Anyway, hope this helps.
>
> Bridgit
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:35:40 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a line
that 
I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.  I can' 
remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word was 
misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
announce 
all punctuation.  Judith
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To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Hey guys,
>
> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable 
> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
> spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a 
> quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>
> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult 
> as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big

> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will 
> read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the 
> JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab 
> until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short 
> cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity 
> dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you 
> hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do 
> this until you hear "all."
>
> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
> (probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for 
> editing purposes.
>
> Anyway, hope this helps.
>
> Bridgit
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:59:54 -0600
From: Brad Dunse <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Judith,

I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that 
corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are 
tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As far 
as I  know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in 
Jaws, it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a 
thing called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, 
open ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't 
seem to catch  my test goofs.

I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't 
get it to work on here.

Brad

Brad

On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>line that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that 
>line.  I can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me 
>that a word was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have 
>jaws set to announce all punctuation.  Judith
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>>Hey guys,
>>
>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable 
>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
>>spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a 
>>quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>
>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult 
>>as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big

>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will 
>>read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the 
>>JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab 
>>until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short 
>>cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity 
>>dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you 
>>hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do 
>>this until you hear "all."
>>
>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for 
>>editing purposes.
>>
>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>
>>Bridgit
>>
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:09:43 -0600
From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
either 
later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.

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From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Judith,
>
> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that 
> corrects
> spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your tools/options
menu, 
> then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are tick boxes for checking
as 
> you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as I  know, there has never

> been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a
part of 
> the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which will

> alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and 
> other issues. But it didn't seem to catch  my test goofs.
>
> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't 
> get it
> to work on here.
>
> Brad
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a line
>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.  I

>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
was 
>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
announce 
>>all punctuation.  Judith
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable

>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
>>>spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a 
>>>quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>
>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult

>>>as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One 
>>>big helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that 
>>>will read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to 
>>>the JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then 
>>>tab until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The 
>>>short cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity 
>>>dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you 
>>>hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do

>>>this until you hear "all."
>>>
>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for

>>>editing purposes.
>>>
>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>
>>>Bridgit
>>>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:35:36 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Brad, I just went to tools and options.  The things that were checked on
the 
tool bar had nothing to do with what I'm looking for.  I hit spelling
and 
grammer but all jaws told me was that the document I was working in had
no 
spelling errors.  We'll have to keep searching.  Thanks, Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Judith,
>
> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that 
> corrects
> spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your tools/options
menu, 
> then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are tick boxes for checking
as 
> you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as I  know, there has never

> been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a
part of 
> the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which will

> alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and 
> other issues. But it didn't seem to catch  my test goofs.
>
> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't 
> get it
> to work on here.
>
> Brad
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a line
>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.  I

>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
was 
>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
announce 
>>all punctuation.  Judith
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable

>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
>>>spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a 
>>>quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>
>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult

>>>as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One 
>>>big helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that 
>>>will read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to 
>>>the JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then 
>>>tab until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The 
>>>short cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity 
>>>dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you 
>>>hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do

>>>this until you hear "all."
>>>
>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for

>>>editing purposes.
>>>
>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>
>>>Bridgit
>>>
>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:36:26 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking 
>either
>later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith,
>>
>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that 
>> corrects
>> spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your tools/options
menu, 
>> then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are tick boxes for checking
as 
>> you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as I  know, there has
never 
>> been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a
part 
>> of the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which
will 
>> alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and

>> other issues. But it didn't seem to catch  my test goofs.
>>
>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't 
>> get
>> it to work on here.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a 
>>>line
>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.
I 
>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
was 
>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
announce 
>>>all punctuation.  Judith
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a 
>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all 
>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  
>>>>Just a quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>
>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as 
>>>>difficult as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be 
>>>>done.  One big helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a 
>>>>feature that will read all punctuation including commas and 
>>>>apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS window and pull up the option menu, 
>>>>then go to basics, then tab until you hear punctuation and select 
>>>>"all punctuation ."  The short cut is to press insert and V which 
>>>>will bring up the verbocity dialogue box, then it will list 
>>>>different options, press P until you hear punctuation, press space 
>>>>bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you hear "all."
>>>>
>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting 
>>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS 
>>>>for editing purposes.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>Bridgit
>>>>
>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>Checked by AVG.
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>>>>12:00 AM
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>>
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>>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:44:02 -0600
From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Judith,
You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
changed 
in JAWS since the last time I played with it.

While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
number 
row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S for the 
settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." When you've 
opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and font
information" 
and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give you information
about 
fonts and indentation. You can find settings for the spelling and
grammar 
errors in the verbosity settings by pressing Insert-V from within your
word 
document. If anyone wants more detailed information on that process, let
me 
know.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Judith,
>>>
>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are
tick 
>>> boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as
I 
>>> know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it
is 
>>> likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing
called 
>>> Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, open ended 
>>> quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't seem to
catch 
>>> my test goofs.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't 
>>> get
>>> it to work on here.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a 
>>>>line
>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.
I 
>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
was 
>>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to 
>>>>announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a 
>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all 
>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.

>>>>>Just a quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>
>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as 
>>>>>difficult
>>>>>as
>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will

>>>>>read
>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS
>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
until
>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short cut
is 
>>>>>to
>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue box,
then
>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear punctuation,
>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you
hear
>>>>>"all."
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>(probably
>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for editing
>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 
>>>>><unknown> 12:00 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>>
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>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> He who angers you controls you
>>>
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>>>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:59:28 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.  From

what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and grammer
errors 
as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Judith,
> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>
> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S
for 
> the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." When 
> you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and font 
> information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give
you 
> information about fonts and indentation. You can find settings for the

> spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings by pressing
Insert-V 
> from within your word document. If anyone wants more detailed
information 
> on that process, let me know.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Judith,
>>>>
>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are
tick 
>>>> boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as
I 
>>>> know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws,
it is 
>>>> likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing
called 
>>>> Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, open ended 
>>>> quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't seem to
catch 
>>>> my test goofs.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't

>>>> get
>>>> it to work on here.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a 
>>>>>line
>>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.
I 
>>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
was 
>>>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to 
>>>>>announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a 
>>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all 
>>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.

>>>>>>Just a quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as 
>>>>>>difficult
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
big
>>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
will 
>>>>>>read
>>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS
>>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
until
>>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short cut
is 
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue box,

>>>>>>then
>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear
punctuation,
>>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you

>>>>>>hear
>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
editing
>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 
>>>>>><unknown> 12:00 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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ptonline.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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addunsemusic.com
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>>>>>signature database 5602 (20101108) __________
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>>>>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brad Dunse
>>>>
>>>> He who angers you controls you
>>>>
>>>> E Mail: brad at braddunsemusic.com
>>>>
>>>> Website: http://www.braddunsemusic.com
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:45:18 +0530
From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [stylist] punctuation
Message-ID: <B7D8A45B47C44EFD94C59200B17CE846 at jean1ca8e1ee6b>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
things like misplaced periods etc.  

Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend on
it as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
with the problem of submissions or other important documents that must
be free of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?
Are there ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos
and such that are not picked up by the spell checker?

Jean

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 23:22:54 -0500
From: "Justin H. Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'Jean Parker'" <radioforever at gmail.com>,	"'Writer's Division
	Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] punctuation
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You can try playing around with some of the attributes in the schemes
and things like that.  

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:15 PM
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: [stylist] punctuation

I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
things like misplaced periods etc.  

Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend on
it as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
with the problem of submissions or other important documents that must
be free of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?
Are there ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos
and such that are not picked up by the spell checker?

Jean
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:11:32 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Jean Parker <radioforever at gmail.com>,	Writer's Division
Mailing
	List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] punctuation
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Typos are usually picked up by jaws.  Sometimes it takes moer than one
spell 
check.  I have my punctuation turned on in jaws so I hear any errors 
constantly.  I've found with the spell check they don't pick up missing 
quotes.  I guess for a lot of the errors I depend on my hearing errors
and 
correcting the problem.  That is why I liked it when I had errors read
at 
the end of a line.  I wish I could give you a real solution, but I
can't. 
Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:15 PM
Subject: [stylist] punctuation

>I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
>submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
things 
>like misplaced periods etc.
>
> Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend 
> on it
> as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
with 
> the problem of submissions or other important documents that must be
free 
> of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?  Are
there 
> ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos and such
that 
> are not picked up by the spell checker?
>
> Jean
> _______________________________________________
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> <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:51:31 -0600
From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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Judith,
press insert-V and arrow down to editing options when in a Word
document. 
You will find auto correct detection, spelling error detection and 
grammatical error detection. Press the space bar to set those to on and
then 
press enter. That ought to help you.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.  
> From
> what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and grammer
errors 
> as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith,
>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
>> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>
>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
>> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S
for 
>> the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." When 
>> you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and font

>> information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give
you 
>> information about fonts and indentation. You can find settings for
the 
>> spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings by pressing 
>> Insert-V from within your word document. If anyone wants more
detailed 
>> information on that process, let me know.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are

>>>>> tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As
far 
>>>>> as I know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in
Jaws, 
>>>>> it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a
thing 
>>>>> called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, open

>>>>> ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't
seem to 
>>>>> catch my test goofs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I 
>>>>> can't
>>>>> get it to work on here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a 
>>>>>>line
>>>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that
line.  I 
>>>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a
word 
>>>>>>was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set
to 
>>>>>>announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a 
>>>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all

>>>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted 
>>>>>>>people.  Just a quick plug for
>>>>>>>Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as 
>>>>>>>difficult
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
big
>>>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
will 
>>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the
JAWS
>>>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
until
>>>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short
cut is 
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue
box, 
>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear
punctuation,
>>>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until
you 
>>>>>>>hear
>>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
editing
>>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 
>>>>>>><unknown> 12:00 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Dunse
>>>>>
>>>>> He who angers you controls you
>>>>>
>>>>> E Mail: brad at braddunsemusic.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Website: http://www.braddunsemusic.com
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:07:14 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
Message-ID: <D87F5EA4D71341D9A96012169D63C67C at dell5150>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
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Alan, I don't get it.  Before my hard drive was changed I had this
option on 
my computer.  Now I just did what you suggested and I didn't have any 
editting options in the verbocity menu.  Thanks for your help, Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS

> Judith,
> press insert-V and arrow down to editing options when in a Word 
> document.
> You will find auto correct detection, spelling error detection and 
> grammatical error detection. Press the space bar to set those to on
and 
> then press enter. That ought to help you.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.  
>> From
>> what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and grammer 
>> errors as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Judith,
>>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
>>> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>>
>>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
>>> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press
alt-S 
>>> for the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes."
When 
>>> you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and
font 
>>> information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give
you 
>>> information about fonts and indentation. You can find settings for
the 
>>> spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings by pressing 
>>> Insert-V from within your word document. If anyone wants more
detailed 
>>> information on that process, let me know.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some 
>>>>>looking
>>>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your 
>>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There
are 
>>>>>> tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As
far 
>>>>>> as I know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in 
>>>>>> Jaws, it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws
has a 
>>>>>> thing called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple
spaces, 
>>>>>> open ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it
didn't 
>>>>>> seem to catch my test goofs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I 
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> get it to work on here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>>>>>>line that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on
that 
>>>>>>>line.  I can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me
that 
>>>>>>>a word was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have
jaws 
>>>>>>>set to announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a
>>>>>>>>refreshable
>>>>>>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same 
>>>>>>>>spelling,
>>>>>>>>grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a quick
plug 
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as
>>>>>>>>difficult as
>>>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
big
>>>>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
will 
>>>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the
JAWS
>>>>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab 
>>>>>>>>until
>>>>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short
cut 
>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue
box, 
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear
punctuation,
>>>>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until
you 
>>>>>>>>hear
>>>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
editing
>>>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 
>>>>>>>><unknown> 12:00 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>stylist mailing list
>>>>>>>>stylist at nfbnet.org 
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>>>>>>>>for stylist:
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0optonline.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>stylist mailing list
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>>>>>>>for
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braddunsemusic.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>>>>>>>signature database 5602 (20101108) __________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.eset.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad Dunse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He who angers you controls you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E Mail: brad at braddunsemusic.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Website: http://www.braddunsemusic.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1464323555
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/braddunse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/braddunse
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>> <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stylist mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:23:37 -0500
From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
To: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>,	"Writer's Division
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Subject: Re: [stylist] punctuation
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Jean,
    One very important step in submitting error-free work is to have
someone 
else give it a critical read. This is something most writers will do, 
whether blind or not. An objective look can pick up spelling errors and 
offer some grammatical input. I have a couple of people in my circle
with 
whom I exchange such servicess. They send me things to look over and I
send 
pieces to them. It's actually a pretty fun process, since each of us
have 
our different interests and styles. I learn a lot about the fields of 
library science and private pilotting from reading my sister's work and
she 
and I have had some very deep philosophical discussions after she has
read 
one of my metaphysical or mental health articles. This list can be a
great 
resource, as well.
    I also find that I can usually pick up such mistakes as the ".," one

mentioned by Donna, as well as have a pretty good ear for spelling
errors, 
provided I don't put myself to sleep reading my own work! (grin) Now,
when a 
spelling error results in a homonym, JAWS doesn't pick that up and
neither 
does spell check, as it only checks for spelling, not appropriateness of
the 
words. We can also recognize habitual errors we make and, when proofing,

check for these errors. For instance, because I type at about 120 wpm, I

frequently miss the synchronization of the "Shift" key with the letter
key; 
therefore, when I proof my own work, I stop and check for capitals where

they should be.
    Another important reason for having someone else examine your work
is to 
help ensure you are communicating what you intend. You may know what you

want to say but may not say it! Sometimes we forget that not everyone
else 
has the grasp of the subject we have. The reason we are writing is
because 
we have a better grasp of the subject than others and a desire to share
this 
knowledge or perspective. An objective look can help accomplish the goal
of 
answering questions, rather than creating more! (smile) I know I have
read 
some pieces that left me scratching my head!

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:15 PM
Subject: [stylist] punctuation

>I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
>submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
things 
>like misplaced periods etc.
>
> Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend 
> on it
> as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
with 
> the problem of submissions or other important documents that must be
free 
> of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?  Are
there 
> ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos and such
that 
> are not picked up by the spell checker?
>
> Jean
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