[stylist] Punctuation and editing

Robert Leslie Newman newmanrl at cox.net
Wed Nov 10 22:54:54 UTC 2010


One thing I do to find weird errors is- using the find function in word, I
would look for any occurrence of like a comma and period combo. Or simply
put, search for any sort of punctuation mistake that you want to make sure
"isn't" suppose to be in your manuscript!

And my final run through is  using my Braille display. There you can "see it
all.' (Editing by speech alone is very tedious.)



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From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala, M.S.
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:51 AM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] Punctuation and editing

All,
    Another strategy I use is to put the work aside overnight. A final 
reading early in the morning brings a very fresh outlook to the work. This 
is one of the reasons so much of my final works are sent before the sun 
rises!

Fraternally yours,
Marion


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To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:33 PM
Subject: [stylist] Punctuation and editing


> One other thing, when editing, I will go through whatever I am working
> on multiple times, each time looking for specific things.  So in one
> read, I will be paying attention to punctuation, the next read, I will
> make sure all quotes are correct, the next read, I will be looking for
> sentence structure, etc.  Again, it takes time, but it works.
>
> Along with specific tools that come along with JAWS and reading through
> for specific reasons, has worked for me.
>
> Bridgit
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>   7. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
>   8. Re: Editing with JAWS (Alan)
>   9. Re: Editing with JAWS (Judith Bron)
>  10. punctuation (Jean Parker)
>  11. Re: punctuation (Justin H. Williams)
>  12. Re: punctuation (Judith Bron)
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>  15. Re: punctuation (Marion Gwizdala, M.S.)
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> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:50:36 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> Hey guys,
>
> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same spelling,
> grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a quick plug for
> Braille.  *smile*
>
> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult as
> you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will read
> all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS
> window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab until
> you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short cut is to
> press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue box, then
> it will list different options, press P until you hear punctuation,
> press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you hear
> "all."
>
> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting (probably
> after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for editing
> purposes.
>
> Anyway, hope this helps.
>
> Bridgit
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> Bridget,
> Thanks, switching Jaws to read all punctuation is an excellent
> suggestion. It never even occurred to me. It's a pain when you're just
> reading something, but for editing it's a great idea. That will probably
>
> make a difference in how Jaws reads Spell Check as well.
> Donna
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> On 11/8/2010 1:50 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
>> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same
>> spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a
>> quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>
>> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult
>> as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
>
>> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will
>> read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the
>> JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
>> until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short
>> cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity
>> dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you
>> hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do
>> this until you hear "all."
>>
>> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>> (probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
>> editing purposes.
>>
>> Anyway, hope this helps.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
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> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:35:40 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a line
> that
> I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.  I can'
> remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word was
> misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
> announce
> all punctuation.  Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
> Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
>> Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same
>> spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a
>> quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>
>> If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult
>> as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
>
>> helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will
>> read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the
>> JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
>> until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short
>> cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity
>> dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you
>> hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do
>> this until you hear "all."
>>
>> By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>> (probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
>> editing purposes.
>>
>> Anyway, hope this helps.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>> Checked by AVG.
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>> 12:00 AM
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> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:59:54 -0600
> From: Brad Dunse <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> Judith,
>
> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your
> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are
> tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As far
> as I  know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in
> Jaws, it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a
> thing called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces,
> open ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't
> seem to catch  my test goofs.
>
> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't
> get it to work on here.
>
> Brad
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>line that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that
>>line.  I can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me
>>that a word was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have
>>jaws set to announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same
>>>spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a
>>>quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>
>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult
>>>as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
>
>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will
>>>read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the
>>>JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
>>>until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short
>>>cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity
>>>dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you
>>>hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do
>>>this until you hear "all."
>>>
>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
>>>editing purposes.
>>>
>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>
>>>Bridgit
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:09:43 -0600
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
> either
> later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith,
>>
>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>> corrects
>> spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your tools/options
> menu,
>> then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are tick boxes for checking
> as
>> you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as I  know, there has never
>
>> been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a
> part of
>> the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which will
>
>> alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and
>> other issues. But it didn't seem to catch  my test goofs.
>>
>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't
>> get it
>> to work on here.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a line
>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.  I
>
>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
> was
>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
> announce
>>>all punctuation.  Judith
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
>
>>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same
>>>>spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a
>>>>quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>
>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult
>
>>>>as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
>>>>big helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
>>>>will read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to
>>>>the JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then
>>>>tab until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The
>>>>short cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity
>>>>dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you
>>>>hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do
>
>>>>this until you hear "all."
>>>>
>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
>
>>>>editing purposes.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>Bridgit
>>>>
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>>>>Checked by AVG.
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> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:35:36 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> Brad, I just went to tools and options.  The things that were checked on
> the
> tool bar had nothing to do with what I'm looking for.  I hit spelling
> and
> grammer but all jaws told me was that the document I was working in had
> no
> spelling errors.  We'll have to keep searching.  Thanks, Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith,
>>
>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>> corrects
>> spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your tools/options
> menu,
>> then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are tick boxes for checking
> as
>> you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as I  know, there has never
>
>> been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a
> part of
>> the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which will
>
>> alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and
>> other issues. But it didn't seem to catch  my test goofs.
>>
>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't
>> get it
>> to work on here.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a line
>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.  I
>
>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
> was
>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
> announce
>>>all punctuation.  Judith
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a refreshable
>
>>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same
>>>>spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a
>>>>quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>
>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as difficult
>
>>>>as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
>>>>big helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
>>>>will read all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to
>>>>the JAWS window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then
>>>>tab until you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The
>>>>short cut is to press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity
>>>>dialogue box, then it will list different options, press P until you
>>>>hear punctuation, press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do
>
>>>>this until you hear "all."
>>>>
>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
>
>>>>editing purposes.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>Bridgit
>>>>
>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: <unknown>
>>>>12:00 AM
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:36:26 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>either
>>later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Judith,
>>>
>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>> corrects
>>> spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your tools/options
> menu,
>>> then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are tick boxes for checking
> as
>>> you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as I  know, there has
> never
>>> been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it is likely reading a
> part
>>> of the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing called Text Analyzer which
> will
>>> alert you of multiple spaces, open ended quotes, open parenthesis and
>
>>> other issues. But it didn't seem to catch  my test goofs.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't
>>> get
>>> it to work on here.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>>>line
>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.
> I
>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
> was
>>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
> announce
>>>>all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a
>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all
>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.
>>>>>Just a quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>
>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as
>>>>>difficult as you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be
>>>>>done.  One big helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a
>>>>>feature that will read all punctuation including commas and
>>>>>apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS window and pull up the option menu,
>>>>>then go to basics, then tab until you hear punctuation and select
>>>>>"all punctuation ."  The short cut is to press insert and V which
>>>>>will bring up the verbocity dialogue box, then it will list
>>>>>different options, press P until you hear punctuation, press space
>>>>>bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you hear "all."
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>(probably after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS
>>>>>for editing purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: <unknown>
>
>>>>>12:00 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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>>>
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>>>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:44:02 -0600
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
> Message-ID: <A080C776A0D34E5494FF58C17EDCC2BA at OwnerPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Judith,
> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
> changed
> in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>
> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
> number
> row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S for the
> settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." When you've
> opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and font
> information"
> and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give you information
> about
> fonts and indentation. You can find settings for the spelling and
> grammar
> errors in the verbosity settings by pressing Insert-V from within your
> word
> document. If anyone wants more detailed information on that process, let
> me
> know.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Judith,
>>>>
>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your
>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are
> tick
>>>> boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as
> I
>>>> know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws, it
> is
>>>> likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing
> called
>>>> Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, open ended
>>>> quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't seem to
> catch
>>>> my test goofs.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't
>>>> get
>>>> it to work on here.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>>>>line
>>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.
> I
>>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
> was
>>>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
>>>>>announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a
>>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all
>>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.
>
>>>>>>Just a quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as
>>>>>>difficult
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One big
>>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that will
>
>>>>>>read
>>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS
>>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
> until
>>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short cut
> is
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue box,
> then
>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear punctuation,
>>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you
> hear
>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for editing
>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date:
>>>>>><unknown> 12:00 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>>>>>>
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> tonline.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:59:28 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
> Message-ID: <36C4BFDD6EBC454CAA9731ADE5A8586C at dell5150>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
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>
> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.  From
>
> what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and grammer
> errors
> as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith,
>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
>> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>
>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
>> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S
> for
>> the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." When
>> you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and font
>> information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give
> you
>> information about fonts and indentation. You can find settings for the
>
>> spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings by pressing
> Insert-V
>> from within your word document. If anyone wants more detailed
> information
>> on that process, let me know.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your
>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are
> tick
>>>>> boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As far as
> I
>>>>> know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in Jaws,
> it is
>>>>> likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a thing
> called
>>>>> Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, open ended
>>>>> quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't seem to
> catch
>>>>> my test goofs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I can't
>
>>>>> get
>>>>> it to work on here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>>>>>line
>>>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that line.
> I
>>>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a word
> was
>>>>>>misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set to
>>>>>>announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a
>>>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all
>>>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted people.
>
>>>>>>>Just a quick plug for Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as
>>>>>>>difficult
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
> big
>>>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
> will
>>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the JAWS
>>>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
> until
>>>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short cut
> is
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue box,
>
>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear
> punctuation,
>>>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until you
>
>>>>>>>hear
>>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
> editing
>>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>>>>>>>Checked by AVG.
>>>>>>>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date:
>>>>>>><unknown> 12:00 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>stylist mailing list
>>>>>>>stylist at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>stylist:
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> ptonline.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>Writers Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:45:18 +0530
> From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [stylist] punctuation
> Message-ID: <B7D8A45B47C44EFD94C59200B17CE846 at jean1ca8e1ee6b>
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>
> I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
> submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
> things like misplaced periods etc.
>
> Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend on
> it as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
> with the problem of submissions or other important documents that must
> be free of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?
> Are there ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos
> and such that are not picked up by the spell checker?
>
> Jean
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 23:22:54 -0500
> From: "Justin H. Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Jean Parker'" <radioforever at gmail.com>, "'Writer's Division
> Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] punctuation
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>
> You can try playing around with some of the attributes in the schemes
> and things like that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jean Parker
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:15 PM
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [stylist] punctuation
>
> I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
> submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
> things like misplaced periods etc.
>
> Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend on
> it as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
> with the problem of submissions or other important documents that must
> be free of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?
> Are there ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos
> and such that are not picked up by the spell checker?
>
> Jean
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:11:32 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Jean Parker <radioforever at gmail.com>, Writer's Division
> Mailing
> List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] punctuation
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> Typos are usually picked up by jaws.  Sometimes it takes moer than one
> spell
> check.  I have my punctuation turned on in jaws so I hear any errors
> constantly.  I've found with the spell check they don't pick up missing
> quotes.  I guess for a lot of the errors I depend on my hearing errors
> and
> correcting the problem.  That is why I liked it when I had errors read
> at
> the end of a line.  I wish I could give you a real solution, but I
> can't.
> Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:15 PM
> Subject: [stylist] punctuation
>
>
>>I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
>>submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
> things
>>like misplaced periods etc.
>>
>> Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend
>> on it
>> as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
> with
>> the problem of submissions or other important documents that must be
> free
>> of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?  Are
> there
>> ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos and such
> that
>> are not picked up by the spell checker?
>>
>> Jean
>> _______________________________________________
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>> <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:51:31 -0600
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
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> Judith,
> press insert-V and arrow down to editing options when in a Word
> document.
> You will find auto correct detection, spelling error detection and
> grammatical error detection. Press the space bar to set those to on and
> then
> press enter. That ought to help you.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.
>> From
>> what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and grammer
> errors
>> as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Judith,
>>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
>>> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>>
>>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
>>> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press alt-S
> for
>>> the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes." When
>>> you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and font
>
>>> information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give
> you
>>> information about fonts and indentation. You can find settings for
> the
>>> spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings by pressing
>>> Insert-V from within your word document. If anyone wants more
> detailed
>>> information on that process, let me know.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some looking
>>>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your
>>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There are
>
>>>>>> tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As
> far
>>>>>> as I know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in
> Jaws,
>>>>>> it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws has a
> thing
>>>>>> called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple spaces, open
>
>>>>>> ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it didn't
> seem to
>>>>>> catch my test goofs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> get it to work on here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>>>>>>line
>>>>>>>that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on that
> line.  I
>>>>>>>can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me that a
> word
>>>>>>>was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have jaws set
> to
>>>>>>>announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a
>>>>>>>>refreshable Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all
>
>>>>>>>>the same spelling, grammar and structure issues as sighted
>>>>>>>>people.  Just a quick plug for
>>>>>>>>Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as
>>>>>>>>difficult
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
> big
>>>>>>>>helpful feature of JAWS is that you can turn on a feature that
> will
>>>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>>all punctuation including commas and apostrophies.  Go to the
> JAWS
>>>>>>>>window and pull up the option menu, then go to basics, then tab
> until
>>>>>>>>you hear punctuation and select "all punctuation ."  The short
> cut is
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>press insert and V which will bring up the verbocity dialogue
> box,
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear
> punctuation,
>>>>>>>>press space bar to change the punctuation mode.  Do this until
> you
>>>>>>>>hear
>>>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
> editing
>>>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bridgit
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:07:14 -0500
> From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
> Message-ID: <D87F5EA4D71341D9A96012169D63C67C at dell5150>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=response
>
> Alan, I don't get it.  Before my hard drive was changed I had this
> option on
> my computer.  Now I just did what you suggested and I didn't have any
> editting options in the verbocity menu.  Thanks for your help, Judith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>
>
>> Judith,
>> press insert-V and arrow down to editing options when in a Word
>> document.
>> You will find auto correct detection, spelling error detection and
>> grammatical error detection. Press the space bar to set those to on
> and
>> then press enter. That ought to help you.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Alan, Thanks for this.  I am interested in the verbocity settings.
>>> From
>>> what I'm seeing here that is what will give me spelling and grammer
>>> errors as I type and proof read line by line.  Thanks, Judith
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Judith,
>>>> You're welcome. Here's what to do. I had to really look because it's
>>>> changed in JAWS since the last time I played with it.
>>>>
>>>> While in MS Word, press Insert (JAWS Key) and the number 6 (from the
>>>> number row) to open the JAWS configuration file for Word. Press
> alt-S
>>>> for the settings menu and arrow down to "speech and sound schemes."
> When
>>>> you've opened this dialogue, select "proofreading attributes and
> font
>>>> information" and tab to the OK button and hit enter. This will give
> you
>>>> information about fonts and indentation. You can find settings for
> the
>>>> spelling and grammar errors in the verbosity settings by pressing
>>>> Insert-V from within your word document. If anyone wants more
> detailed
>>>> information on that process, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alan, Thanks.  I appreciate your help.  Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alan" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I actually know what Judith is talking about. Let me do some
>>>>>>looking
>>>>>>either later tonight or tomorrow, and I'll let the list know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Brad Dunse" <lists at braddunsemusic.com>
>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think what you might be referring to is a feature in Word that
>>>>>>> corrects spelling and alerts you right  away. Check out your
>>>>>>> tools/options  menu, then your Spelling and Grammar tab. There
> are
>>>>>>> tick boxes for checking as you go, making suggestions and etc. As
> far
>>>>>>> as I know, there has never been an actual spell checking tool in
>>>>>>> Jaws, it is likely reading a part of the screen. The newer Jaws
> has a
>>>>>>> thing called Text Analyzer which will alert you of multiple
> spaces,
>>>>>>> open ended quotes, open parenthesis and other issues. But it
> didn't
>>>>>>> seem to catch my test goofs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be interested in getting what you described though, but I
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> get it to work on here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/8/2010  01:35 PM Judith Bron said...
>>>>>>>>Bridget, Before my hard drive was replaced Jaws told me when on a
>>>>>>>>line that I had whatever number of spelling/grammer errors on
> that
>>>>>>>>line.  I can' remember how to get that back.  Also, this told me
> that
>>>>>>>>a word was misspelled right after I spelled it.  I already have
> jaws
>>>>>>>>set to announce all punctuation.  Judith
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter"
>>>>>>>><bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [stylist] Editing with JAWS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>First, if you can use Braille and have access to either a
>>>>>>>>>refreshable
>>>>>>>>>Braille device or Braille embosser, you can check all the same
>>>>>>>>>spelling,
>>>>>>>>>grammar and structure issues as sighted people.  Just a quick
> plug
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>Braille.  *smile*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you solely use JAWS to edit, though, it is not always as
>>>>>>>>>difficult as
>>>>>>>>>you might think.  It is an adjustment, but it can be done.  One
> big
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>>>>>>>>>is to
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> box,
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>>>>>>>>>it will list different options, press P until you hear
> punctuation,
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> you
>>>>>>>>>hear
>>>>>>>>>"all."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>By the way, we will have a guest speaker for a monthly meeting
>>>>>>>>>(probably
>>>>>>>>>after the New Year) who will talk about how to use JAWS for
> editing
>>>>>>>>>purposes.
>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:23:37 -0500
> From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
> To: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>, "Writer's Division
> Mailing
> List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] punctuation
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> Jean,
>    One very important step in submitting error-free work is to have
> someone
> else give it a critical read. This is something most writers will do,
> whether blind or not. An objective look can pick up spelling errors and
> offer some grammatical input. I have a couple of people in my circle
> with
> whom I exchange such servicess. They send me things to look over and I
> send
> pieces to them. It's actually a pretty fun process, since each of us
> have
> our different interests and styles. I learn a lot about the fields of
> library science and private pilotting from reading my sister's work and
> she
> and I have had some very deep philosophical discussions after she has
> read
> one of my metaphysical or mental health articles. This list can be a
> great
> resource, as well.
>    I also find that I can usually pick up such mistakes as the ".," one
>
> mentioned by Donna, as well as have a pretty good ear for spelling
> errors,
> provided I don't put myself to sleep reading my own work! (grin) Now,
> when a
> spelling error results in a homonym, JAWS doesn't pick that up and
> neither
> does spell check, as it only checks for spelling, not appropriateness of
> the
> words. We can also recognize habitual errors we make and, when proofing,
>
> check for these errors. For instance, because I type at about 120 wpm, I
>
> frequently miss the synchronization of the "Shift" key with the letter
> key;
> therefore, when I proof my own work, I stop and check for capitals where
>
> they should be.
>    Another important reason for having someone else examine your work
> is to
> help ensure you are communicating what you intend. You may know what you
>
> want to say but may not say it! Sometimes we forget that not everyone
> else
> has the grasp of the subject we have. The reason we are writing is
> because
> we have a better grasp of the subject than others and a desire to share
> this
> knowledge or perspective. An objective look can help accomplish the goal
> of
> answering questions, rather than creating more! (smile) I know I have
> read
> some pieces that left me scratching my head!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jean Parker" <radioforever at gmail.com>
> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:15 PM
> Subject: [stylist] punctuation
>
>
>>I normally keep the punctuation setting turned off in jaws but when I
>>submit something important I turn the punctuation on so I can find
> things
>>like misplaced periods etc.
>>
>> Although I use the spell and grammar checker in Word, I never depend
>> on it
>> as the last word.  I am wondering though how people on this list deal
> with
>> the problem of submissions or other important documents that must be
> free
>> of errors.  Are any of the proofreading programs accessible?  Are
> there
>> ways to use jaws that would go further in iliminating typos and such
> that
>> are not picked up by the spell checker?
>>
>> Jean
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