[stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Thu Jan 6 00:08:02 UTC 2011 

Marion, I agree that was oversensative. That word does not have racial 
conotations; at least not that I know. I was not alive in the 50s.

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Hoods & Hoodlums


> Hi Marion,
> Overly sensative, indeed! As a '50s kid, I don't remember hoodlum having 
> any racial overtones, and that was in the day when no one kept their 
> racial slurs in check. Our neighborhood was all white and we had hoodlums.
>
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> On 1/4/2011 8:37 AM, Marion Gwizdala, M.S. wrote:
>>    Recently, one of our school board members used the term "hoodlum" to 
>> describe some of the less than desirable influences in our school system. 
>> There was a public outcry against this individual, claiming it was a 
>> racial slur. In my opinion, this was an overly sensitive response!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron at optonline.net>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>
>>
>>> Jim, It wasn't 60 years ago when hoodlums were hoods, but about 45 years 
>>> ago.  Right through high school there were bunches of guys we called 
>>> hoods. They wore sweat shirts, in the winter leather jackets and looked 
>>> mean as bad.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" 
>>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] On Jaws pronunciation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Donna,
>>>> in our little burg there's been a rash of holdups committed by men 
>>>> wearing hoodies, they're getting a negative  rap.
>>>> and you know that"hood" as a slang term goes way back.  it was slang 
>>>> for hoodlum over sixty years ago.
>>>> good luck on the girl's name.  I don't know about that.
>>>> jc
>>>>
>>>> At 07:33 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>> On the matter of Jaws pronunciation ... I just "finished" my novel and 
>>>>> there was an instance where I chose a spelling based on Jaws' 
>>>>> pronunciation. The word is the one now used for hooded sweatshirts. 
>>>>> According to the web, either h-o-o-d-y or h-o-o-d-i-e are acceptible. 
>>>>> Jaws says hoody and hoodie, so I chose the one ending in 'y.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still grappling with a similar problem concerning one of my 
>>>>> character's names. I knew a girl named Damari many years ago and named 
>>>>> a secondary character after her. My memory -- such as it is -- is that 
>>>>> she spelled her name D-a-m-a-r-i. My husband disagrees, thinking it 
>>>>> was D-a-m-a-r-y. Jaws says Damari and Damary. I like the one ending in 
>>>>> 'i, but that is listed on a site with Hispanic first names as a boy's 
>>>>> name. I've lost touch with her, so haven't had any luck at tracking 
>>>>> down the truth of the matter. Any suggestions?
>>>>> Donna
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>>>>> On 1/3/2011 7:30 PM, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>> JC, None of our screen readers speak a pure English, especially with 
>>>>>> the right accent.  Jaws doesn't come in Northeast, South, Midwest and 
>>>>>> West. But it does come in British.  Since I write some words in 
>>>>>> Hebrew and our CH sound sounds nothing like CH when it appears in a 
>>>>>> Hebrew word, I'll attest to the fact that Mr. Jaws really should 
>>>>>> become more international. BTW, does Jaws have a version for Chinese 
>>>>>> and Japanese populations? Judith
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" 
>>>>>> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interesting about thingy word pronounciation:
>>>>>>> my jaws and yours too probably pronounces it as a j sound for the g 
>>>>>>> in thingy.  yet we pronounce it with a hard g.
>>>>>>> thanks judith.
>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 03:35 PM 1/3/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> The news about Linda is great!  Cellulitis is a bummer.  My husband 
>>>>>>>> had it when our youngest son got married.  He enjoyed the wedding 
>>>>>>>> with his leg up on another chair.  I've been using the word thingy 
>>>>>>>> since my kids were little, and they're not little any more.  Their 
>>>>>>>> kids are, but I won't bore you with a grandma email.  The word 
>>>>>>>> thingy was just convenient when something couldn't be identified or 
>>>>>>>> it's use was questionable.  For example, my sons always built 
>>>>>>>> "thingys" with their legoes.  Welcome home Linda, Judith
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>>>>>>>> N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:09 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] heart thingies, thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sending out prayers and good vibes and such to Jim and his wife. 
>>>>>>>>> *heart thingies*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Carrey.  my wife Lynda came home wednesday night and 
>>>>>>>>> promptly got very sick.  but she stayed home.
>>>>>>>>> just saturday she could eat solid but soft food.
>>>>>>>>> she probably is finishing up a cellulitis infection.  today is her 
>>>>>>>>> first day really feeling much better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thank you for your prayers and concers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and I have to add that as a blogger one of my favorite words is 
>>>>>>>>> "thingy." since as a blogger I can play with language, grammar, 
>>>>>>>>> spelling, to further communicate my point I oftenspell the plural 
>>>>>>>>> as t h i n g y s.
>>>>>>>>> whimsy can be fun in making serious points or pointing out the 
>>>>>>>>> problems of bad choices by a government.
>>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>>>>
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