[stylist] fiction

Mon Jan 17 22:13:13 UTC 2011

Bill,

Without trying to put words in Chris's mouth, I think his piece
demonstrates how a writer can "show" an idea without directly stating
it.  Using description, dialogue and devices like metaphor, we do not
need to explain and overstate information and concepts in our narration.
While there are exceptions, exposition should be nominal in most
creative writing.

Chris did a good job displaying opinions and beliefs without having to
step in as the author's voice to do so.

Bridgit

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   1. Re: The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords (Neil Butters)
   2. article about publishing (Anita Adkins)
   3. Re: The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords (LoriStay at aol.com)
   4. Re: fiction (LoriStay at aol.com)
   5. Re: For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
      (LoriStay at aol.com)
   6. Re: For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
      (KajunCutie926 at aol.com)
   7. Re: For Your Information Received the Stylist Today (Judith Bron)
   8. Re: For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
      (Robert Leslie Newman)
   9. Re: marking free matter on the envelope (LoriStay at aol.com)
  10. Visual cortex (The Crowd)
  11. Re: fiction (The Crowd)
  12. Re: Writing process (Marion Gwizdala, M.S.)
  13. Re: fiction (Cheryl Orgas & William Meeker)
  14. Re: Writing process (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
  15. Re: Writing process (Judith Bron)
  16. Re: Writing process (James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR)
  17. APA Style: Citing Federal Law (Marion Gwizdala, M.S.)
  18. Re: APA Style: Citing Federal Law (Judith Bron)
  19. Re: Writing process (The Crowd)
  20. Thinking of words (The Crowd)
  21. Re: Thinking of words (Joe Orozco)
  22. Re: Thinking of words (KajunCutie926 at aol.com)
  23. Re: Visual cortex (Donna Hill)
  24. Re: Thinking of words (Anita Adkins)
  25. Re: Thinking of words (Donna Hill)
  26. Re: Thinking of words (Robert Leslie Newman)
  27. Monthly Telephone Gathering- January reminder
      (Robert Leslie Newman)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:33:28 -0500
From: Neil Butters <neil.butters at sympatico.ca>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords
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     Hello All,

I think I am defending Chris a bit here. I didn't think there was
anything 
wrong with his criticism of Judith's work. Yes, he had some personal 
opinions in there, but he made valid suggestions and comments about her 
writing and style. He also handled his thoughts with sensitivity, not 
wanting to offend Judith.

However, Judith's response was, I think, very inappropriate. It could be

construed as simply an ad hominum attack. She didn't acknowledge any of 
Chris' criticisms of her writing. Instead, she defended her politics,
which 
is not appropriate for this list.

Neil

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From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:41 PM
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords

> Judith,
>
> Was it not you who advocated we not share writing samples with adult
> content
> on the list last year?  I mean, so long as we're talking about what
may or
> may not offend people...  I mean, come on.  Your frustrations with 
> people's
> reactions had nothing to do with editorial feedback but rather with a
> difference in views.  I think it's because you never meant for the
piece 
> to
> be critiqued but rather meant for the piece to be an expression of
your
> opinions.  I'm totally fine with freedom of expression, and as I've
said
> before, I agree with your position.  However, there was no need for
the
> concluding lines of your post below.  It's not that the dialogue on
this
> list needs to be relegated to bubble gum status.  It's just that:
first,
> there's a separate list dedicated to random chatter; and second,
there's a
> certain expectation by subscribers that the discussion will
concentrate on
> technique and not general reactions in the wake of major events. 
> Otherwise,
> I'd be more than glad to very explicitly share my thoughts on abortion
and
> claim I am merely using the list as a writing feedback forum.  I hope
my
> comments are taken in the spirit of constructive criticism they are
meant.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their 
> sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at 
> all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Judith Bron
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:29 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords
>
> Bridget, Thanks for the kind words.  Some on this list were not 
> supportive of the fact that I didn't believe that blaming an entire
> political group or
> any individuals for the actions of a madman belonged in our
> reaction to the
> senseless deaths of some and grave injury to others.  I was shocked to
> realize that many of you whom I also consider close friends
> took the piece
> to be hostile to those who might not agree that blaming one school of
> political thought was the only way to go in reacting to this
> brutal act.
> The other day I called a friend who holds an MA in Psych to ask
> exactly what
> was meant by schizophrenia.  I had a client with the disorder
> and my best
> way of explaining her problem was not very professional, but exact
> nonetheless.  She was nuts.  She was not hostel or aggressive
> in any way.  I
> used this client's disorder as a jumping off point to
> understand the animal
> who did this despicable act to law abiding citizens on a lovely
> Saturday
> afternoon.  My piece wasn't political, but I hoped it would
> help others to
> step away from the blame game in the Arizona affair.  Obviously
> most of you
> think that one political ad or political dialogue between two
> influential
> politicians was above board because it was obvious that my
> opinions don't
> jive with yours.  So lets talk fiction and descriptions of nice
> people at
> nice parties eating nice treats as authors.  Lets not get into
> anything that
> might offend some bleeding hearts.  JB
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:39:36 -0500
From: "Anita Adkins" <aadkins7 at verizon.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [stylist] article about publishing
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Hello,

I found this online, and thought some of you may find it interesting. It
deals with steps to getting published, which is really a summary of and
encouragement for the writing process.
http://www.fictionfactor.com/articles/sevensteps.html
Anita
Remember, Jesus Loves You.
Anita Adkins
81 E. Mechanic ST
APT 207
Frostburg, MD 21532
p: 301-689-5212
c: 301-876-8669
aadkins7 at verizon.net

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:36:21 EST
From: LoriStay at aol.com
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [stylist] The tragic shooting of Gabrielle Giffords
Message-ID: <586f9.5c792cec.3a64a2b5 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Enough of this.   We all of us have our political opinions, and many of
you 
know mine are not shared by all.   This list has to do with writing, not

politics.   So enough!
Lori
In a message dated 1/15/11 7:28:41 PM, jbron at optonline.net writes:

> Bridget, Thanks for the kind words.? Some on this list were not
> supportive
> of the fact that I didn't believe that blaming an entire political
group 
> or
> any individuals for the actions of a madman belonged in our reaction
to 
> the
> senseless deaths of some and grave injury to others.? I was shocked to
> realize that many of you whom I also consider close friends took the
piece
> to be hostile to those who might not agree that blaming one school of
> political thought was the only way to go in reacting to this brutal
act.
> The other day I called a friend who holds an MA in Psych to ask
exactly 
> what
> was meant by schizophrenia.? I had a client with the disorder and my
best
> way of explaining her problem was not very professional, but exact
> nonetheless.? She was nuts.? She was not hostel or aggressive in any
way.? 
> I
> used this client's disorder as a jumping off point to understand the 
> animal
> who did this despicable act to law abiding citizens on a lovely
Saturday
> afternoon.? My piece wasn't political, but I hoped it would help
others to
> step away from the blame game in the Arizona affair.? Obviously most
of 
> you
> think that one political ad or political dialogue between two
influential
> politicians was above board because it was obvious that my opinions
don't
> jive with yours.? So lets talk fiction and descriptions of nice people
at
> nice parties eating nice treats as authors.? Lets not get into
anything 
> that
> might offend some bleeding hearts.? JB
> 
> 
> 

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:50:25 EST
From: LoriStay at aol.com
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [stylist] fiction
Message-ID: <592cb.67f0f4fb.3a64a601 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

This was a great little piece.   I had no problem figuring out the
speaker 
was female.
Lori
In a message dated 1/15/11 11:44:58 AM, justin.williams2 at gmail.com
writes:

> 
> >
> > 1,425 Words
> >
> >
> >
> > Just Call Me Al
> >
> 

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:58:53 EST
From: LoriStay at aol.com
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
Message-ID: <59a47.7d5a0bd2.3a64a7fd at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Bridget, if there is a Staples, or Office Max in your area, they will
carry 
the envelopes with the clasp.
My magazine came through just fine.
Lori

In a message dated 1/15/11 11:33:28 PM, bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:

> According to the rules for mailing "free matter for the blind," 
> packages must be openable by carriers so they can double check if the 
> material inside meets the proper stipulations for free matter.? The 
> flaps should have been tucked in, but I followed the guidelines for 
> mailing free matter.
> 
> I am looking for manilla envelopes that have a clasp since this kind 
> of packaging can be opened, but would be more secure for material 
> inside. Oddly enough, I have not found these envelopes anywhere yet.
> 
> I apologize, but this, according to the rules, is how I should mail 
> them.
> 
> 

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:03:32 EST
From: KajunCutie926 at aol.com
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
Message-ID: <44b63.1d1d648d.3a64a914 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Mine did as well... I've been meaning to let you know but I am  still 
de-stressing from the last two weeks... a very trying time for my
family...  no 
problems at all with how my issue came ..))
Myrna

In a message dated 1/16/2011 2:00:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
LoriStay at aol.com writes:

Bridget,  if there is a Staples, or Office Max in your area, they will 
carry 
the  envelopes with the clasp.
My magazine came through just  fine.
Lori

In a message dated 1/15/11 11:33:28 PM,  bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:

> According to the rules for  mailing "free matter for the blind," 
> packages must be openable by  carriers so they can double check if the

> material inside meets the  proper stipulations for free matter.  The 
> flaps should have been  tucked in, but I followed the guidelines for 
> mailing free  matter.
> 
> I am looking for manilla envelopes that have a clasp  since this kind 
> of packaging can be opened, but would be more secure  for material 
> inside. Oddly enough, I have not found these envelopes  anywhere yet.
> 
> I apologize, but this, according to the rules,  is how I should mail 
> them.
> 
>  
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:11:06 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
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When mailing free matter for the blind can you write or type it on the
front 
of the envelope or do you have to have a rubber stamp?  If you need the 
stamp, where do you get it?  JB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today

Bridget, if there is a Staples, or Office Max in your area, they will
carry the envelopes with the clasp. My magazine came through just fine.
Lori

In a message dated 1/15/11 11:33:28 PM, bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:

> According to the rules for mailing "free matter for the blind," 
> packages must be openable by carriers so they can double check if the 
> material inside meets the proper stipulations for free matter. The 
> flaps should have been tucked in, but I followed the guidelines for 
> mailing free matter.
>
> I am looking for manilla envelopes that have a clasp since this kind 
> of packaging can be opened, but would be more secure for material 
> inside. Oddly enough, I have not found these envelopes anywhere yet.
>
> I apologize, but this, according to the rules, is how I should mail 
> them.
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:16:54 -0600
From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today
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You can find the stamps in some of the blindness gadget magazines or
their
websites- like Maxie Aids or L S & S. And really, I am sure you can just
write it up there the stamp would go. 

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:11 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today

When mailing free matter for the blind can you write or type it on the
front of the envelope or do you have to have a rubber stamp?  If you
need the stamp, where do you get it?  JB
----- Original Message -----
From: <LoriStay at aol.com>
To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] For Your Information Received the Stylist Today

Bridget, if there is a Staples, or Office Max in your area, they will
carry the envelopes with the clasp. My magazine came through just fine.
Lori

In a message dated 1/15/11 11:33:28 PM, bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:

> According to the rules for mailing "free matter for the blind,"
> packages must be openable by carriers so they can double check if the 
> material inside meets the proper stipulations for free matter. The 
> flaps should have been tucked in, but I followed the guidelines for 
> mailing free matter.
>
> I am looking for manilla envelopes that have a clasp since this kind
> of packaging can be opened, but would be more secure for material
inside.
> Oddly enough, I have not found these envelopes anywhere yet.
>
> I apologize, but this, according to the rules, is how I should mail
> them.
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:17:25 EST
From: LoriStay at aol.com
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [stylist] marking free matter on the envelope
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You can mark "free matter for the Blind' on the envelope in ink, but it 
will get more respect if you have a stamp.   the stamps can most likely
be 
ordered from places that sell blindness related items.   I believe I had
one 
made up at a printer.   It says;

FREE MATTER FOR THE BLIND
 and PHYS. HANDICAPPED
Domestic Mail Manual 135

I've also seen them saying, 'May be opened for postal inspection.'

The contents of free matter must be either in Braille or Large print, or
on 
cassette or other audio media.   The envelope should not be sealed.   If

sending a large print letter in a regular envelope, tuck in the flap.
I 
sometimes moisten it to stick to the letter itself to prevent it from
falling 
out, but the envelope is still open.

Lori 

In a message dated 1/16/11 3:10:51 PM, jbron at optonline.net writes:

> When mailing free matter for the blind can you write or type it on the
> front
> of the envelope or do you have to have a rubber stamp?? If you need
the
> stamp, where do you get it?? JB
> 
> 

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:09:32 -0600
From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [stylist] Visual cortex
Message-ID: <DA14E366EFB849EB83ECF3BD22AA7E79 at JazminRainPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response

When we were testifying to the board about braille I mentioned that
reading 
braille stimulates the visual cortex in the brain. I can't even remember

where I got that bit of research but there it is.

Atty

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:18:02 -0600
From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] fiction
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I knew she was female too.

Atty

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:03:58 -0500
From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
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Jim,
    In your message, you state there are well researched differences
between 
how the human mind  interacts with hard copy text vs with a virtual 
document." I would certainly be interested in reading more about this.
Would 
you please provide us with references to this information?

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process

> there are well researched differences between how the human mind
> interacts with hard copy text vs with a virtual document.
> that hard copy has a huge array of cues, gnemonic keys, shapers, etc.
> the virtual document often just seems less real, less easily recalled,

> less easily operated on within the mind.
> jc
>
> At 08:23 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote:
>>Bridget, I do understand... for me though it's the transition from
>>holding
>>a book and reading it to using the earphones and mp3 player... There
is
>>something about the smell of the pages and the feel of them that can't
be
>>replaced.  I enjoy my audio books but every now and again I have to
find a
>>book with larger print to read...My kids call it 'Mom's ink fix'
>>
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 1/15/2011 8:18:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>>I miss  writing with a pencil, I must admit!  *smile*  I had  
>>notebooks and notebooks filled with material--all in pencil.
>>
>>Slate  and Style help with the tactile feeling, but I still miss my
>>pencils!   LOL
>>
>>Bridgit
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:32:04  -0500
>>From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
>>To: Writer's  Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [stylist]  Writing process
>>Message-ID:  <AA5B49499C03407CA8C164D336EF22F2 at dell5150>
>>Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; 
>>reply-type=response
>>
>>I think this thread verifies the phrase, "Different  strokes for 
>>different folks."  Every writer has to find the zone  where they're 
>>most comfortable
>>writing.  Judith
>>----- Original  Message -----
>>From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
>>To: "Writer's  Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Friday, January 14,  2011 12:23 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>>
>>
>> >I write  like mad the first draft then go back and re-write.
>> >
>> > One of my  favorite writers, Clive Barker, writes many of his first

>> > drafts in pencil. He is an incredable writer.
>> >
>> > That  would be like writing your first draft with a slate. lol
>> >
>> >  Shutters.
>> >
>> >  Atty
>> >
>>
>>
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:49:23 -0600
From: "Cheryl Orgas & William Meeker" <meekerorgas at ameritech.net>
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Ending the story with the two girls hand-in-hand, the reference to new
love, and the possibly suggestive name of the bar "Chicken Bones" makes
me think it could be a lesbian/gay/biker bar.  And the bartender's
questionable gender piques my interest.  This story introduces a variety
of non-traditional life-styles.  Could there be another dimension to
this story?

Bill Meeker

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:10 PM
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: [stylist] fiction

In the first paragraph, he describes the unlady-like-squatting.  I agree
that the narrator sounds more masculine, but we are given their gender
in the beginning with that description.

I would like more characterization to make this character more
believable, but we are aware of her gender up front.

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:14:34 -0600
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I too enjoyed the story. And as was suggested, a little bit more info at
a few key points would be nice- I really didn't know the first character
being presented was a woman until a ways in (you'd think the reference
to the squatting thing would have been the point that tripped my
thoughts to female, but I really thought it was a guy doing that
thinking, and sure maybe being a little sexist in his description. 

(Those little add-in references of smell or sound that an author can
use, sure can add to the feel of a story.)

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:26:17 -0600
From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>,
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Hi Marian,
though it's a little dated, my masters thesis included some of this. I
will look for that file and send it to you. primary issues of difference
have to do with the physical experience 
of holding, reading, and perceiving the shape of text, in three 
dimensions.  these provide keys to get back to information that has 
been read.  means the info is more readily accessible for the mind to 
work on it.
hard copy even has smell, weight and sound associated with it. jc

At 05:03 AM 1/17/2011, you wrote:
>Jim,
>    In your message, you state there are well researched differences
> between how the human mind  interacts with hard copy text vs with a 
> virtual document." I would certainly be interested in reading more 
> about this. Would you please provide us with references to this
information?
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>
>
>>there are well researched differences between how the human mind
>>interacts with hard copy text vs with a virtual document.
>>that hard copy has a huge array of cues, gnemonic keys, shapers, etc.
>>the virtual document often just seems less real, less easily 
>>recalled, less easily operated on within the mind.
>>jc
>>
>>At 08:23 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote:
>>>Bridget, I do understand... for me though it's the transition from 
>>>holding a book and reading it to using the earphones and mp3 
>>>player... There is something about the smell of the pages and the 
>>>feel of them that can't be replaced.  I enjoy my audio books but 
>>>every now and again I have to find a book with larger print to 
>>>read...My kids call it 'Mom's ink fix'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 1/15/2011 8:18:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>>bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>I miss  writing with a pencil, I must admit!  *smile*  I had  
>>>notebooks and notebooks filled with material--all in pencil.
>>>
>>>Slate  and Style help with the tactile feeling, but I still miss my
>>>pencils!   LOL
>>>
>>>Bridgit
>>>
>>>Message: 1
>>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:32:04  -0500
>>>From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>To: Writer's  Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist]  Writing process
>>>Message-ID:  <AA5B49499C03407CA8C164D336EF22F2 at dell5150>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; 
>>>reply-type=response
>>>
>>>I think this thread verifies the phrase, "Different  strokes for 
>>>different folks."  Every writer has to find the zone  where they're 
>>>most comfortable
>>>writing.  Judith
>>>----- Original  Message -----
>>>From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
>>>To: "Writer's  Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, January 14,  2011 12:23 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>>>
>>>
>>> >I write  like mad the first draft then go back and re-write.
>>> >
>>> > One of my  favorite writers, Clive Barker, writes many of his 
>>> > first  drafts in pencil. He is an incredable writer.
>>> >
>>> > That  would be like writing your first draft with a slate. lol
>>> >
>>> >  Shutters.
>>> >
>>> >  Atty
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:42:43 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
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Jim and all, I was thinking about this last night.  When reading hard
copy 
and you see "Boy" your eyes recognize it immediately and your brain
tells 
you "boy".  My assumption is that when reading braille and you feel the 
letters "Boy" your brain tells you the same thing.  A braille reader
once 
told me that when he thinks about the spelling of words he "visualizes"
the 
braille letters.  Just a thought, Judith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's 
Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process

> Hi Marian,
> though it's a little dated, my masters thesis included some of this. I

> will look for that file and send it to you. primary issues of 
> difference have to do with the physical experience of holding, 
> reading, and perceiving the shape of text, in three dimensions. these 
> provide keys to get back to information that has been read.  means the

> info is more readily accessible for the mind to work on it. hard copy 
> even has smell, weight and sound associated with it. jc
>
> At 05:03 AM 1/17/2011, you wrote:
>>Jim,
>>    In your message, you state there are well researched differences
>> between how the human mind  interacts with hard copy text vs with a 
>> virtual document." I would certainly be interested in reading more
about 
>> this. Would you please provide us with references to this
information?
>>
>>Fraternally yours,
>>Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR"
>><n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:15 PM
>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>>
>>
>>>there are well researched differences between how the human mind
>>>interacts with hard copy text vs with a virtual document.
>>>that hard copy has a huge array of cues, gnemonic keys, shapers, etc.
>>>the virtual document often just seems less real, less easily
recalled, 
>>>less easily operated on within the mind.
>>>jc
>>>
>>>At 08:23 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote:
>>>>Bridget, I do understand... for me though it's the transition from
>>>>holding
>>>>a book and reading it to using the earphones and mp3 player... There
is
>>>>something about the smell of the pages and the feel of them that
can't 
>>>>be
>>>>replaced.  I enjoy my audio books but every now and again I have to
find 
>>>>a
>>>>book with larger print to read...My kids call it 'Mom's ink fix'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 1/15/2011 8:18:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>>>bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>I miss  writing with a pencil, I must admit!  *smile*  I had  
>>>>notebooks and notebooks filled with material--all in pencil.
>>>>
>>>>Slate  and Style help with the tactile feeling, but I still miss my
>>>>pencils!   LOL
>>>>
>>>>Bridgit
>>>>
>>>>Message: 1
>>>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:32:04  -0500
>>>>From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>>To: Writer's  Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist]  Writing process
>>>>Message-ID:  <AA5B49499C03407CA8C164D336EF22F2 at dell5150>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; 
>>>>reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>>I think this thread verifies the phrase, "Different  strokes for 
>>>>different folks."  Every writer has to find the zone  where they're 
>>>>most comfortable
>>>>writing.  Judith
>>>>----- Original  Message -----
>>>>From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
>>>>To: "Writer's  Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Friday, January 14,  2011 12:23 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I write  like mad the first draft then go back and re-write.
>>>> >
>>>> > One of my  favorite writers, Clive Barker, writes many of his 
>>>> > first  drafts in pencil. He is an incredable writer.
>>>> >
>>>> > That  would be like writing your first draft with a slate. lol
>>>> >
>>>> >  Shutters.
>>>> >
>>>> >  Atty
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:44:40 -0600
From: "James H. \"Jim\" Canaday M.A. N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
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judith,
you just described the major reason in nfb that we promote use of
braille: direct access to the language.  indeed, I often do the same
thing, 
remember what the braille looks like to help with spelling. that
physical experience serves as the key to get at that information. jc

At 08:42 AM 1/17/2011, you wrote:
>Jim and all, I was thinking about this last night.  When reading
>hard copy and you see "Boy" your eyes recognize it immediately and 
>your brain tells you "boy".  My assumption is that when reading 
>braille and you feel the letters "Boy" your brain tells you the same 
>thing.  A braille reader once told me that when he thinks about the 
>spelling of words he "visualizes" the braille letters.  Just a thought,
Judith
>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. 
>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>; "Writer's 
>Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>
>
>>Hi Marian,
>>though it's a little dated, my masters thesis included some of this. I

>>will look for that file and send it to you. primary issues of 
>>difference have to do with the physical experience of holding, 
>>reading, and perceiving the shape of text, in three dimensions. these 
>>provide keys to get back to information that has been read.  means the

>>info is more readily accessible for the mind to work on it.
>>hard copy even has smell, weight and sound associated with it.
>>jc
>>
>>At 05:03 AM 1/17/2011, you wrote:
>>>Jim,
>>>    In your message, you state there are well researched
>>> differences between how the human mind  interacts with hard copy 
>>> text vs with a virtual document." I would certainly be interested 
>>> in reading more about this. Would you please provide us with 
>>> references to this information?
>>>
>>>Fraternally yours,
>>>Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
>>>N6YR" <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:15 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>>>
>>>
>>>>there are well researched differences between how the human mind
>>>>interacts with hard copy text vs with a virtual document.
>>>>that hard copy has a huge array of cues, gnemonic keys, shapers,
etc.
>>>>the virtual document often just seems less real, less easily 
>>>>recalled, less easily operated on within the mind.
>>>>jc
>>>>
>>>>At 08:23 PM 1/15/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>Bridget, I do understand... for me though it's the transition from 
>>>>>holding a book and reading it to using the earphones and mp3 
>>>>>player... There is something about the smell of the pages and the 
>>>>>feel of them that can't be replaced.  I enjoy my audio books but 
>>>>>every now and again I have to find a book with larger print to 
>>>>>read...My kids call it 'Mom's ink fix'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In a message dated 1/15/2011 8:18:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>>>>bpollpeter at hotmail.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>I miss  writing with a pencil, I must admit!  *smile*  I had  
>>>>>notebooks and notebooks filled with material--all in pencil.
>>>>>
>>>>>Slate  and Style help with the tactile feeling, but I still miss my
>>>>>pencils!   LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>Message: 1
>>>>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:32:04  -0500
>>>>>From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
>>>>>To: Writer's  Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist]  Writing process
>>>>>Message-ID:  <AA5B49499C03407CA8C164D336EF22F2 at dell5150>
>>>>>Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; 
>>>>>reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>>I think this thread verifies the phrase, "Different  strokes for 
>>>>>different folks."  Every writer has to find the zone  where they're

>>>>>most comfortable
>>>>>writing.  Judith
>>>>>----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
>>>>>To: "Writer's  Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Friday, January 14,  2011 12:23 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >I write  like mad the first draft then go back and re-write.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > One of my  favorite writers, Clive Barker, writes many of his 
>>>>> > first  drafts in pencil. He is an incredable writer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That  would be like writing your first draft with a slate. lol
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Shutters.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Atty
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>Writers  Division web site: http://www.nfb-writers-division.org 
>>>>><http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:45:16 -0500
From: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>
To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>,	"Human Services List"
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Dear All,
    I am wrapping up an article for submission to a major peer-reviewed
journal and need some guidance citing federal law. If anyone with an
expertise in APA style can answer my questions, I would greatly
appreciate the input. In my article, I refer to the ADA and need to cite
it within the text and, of course, on my reference page. Below is one
example from the text of the article and how I have cited it within the
text.

The expressed intention of Congress was "to provide clear, strong,
consistent, enforceable standards addressing discrimination against
individuals with disabilities" (42USC 12101 Section 2(b)(2)).

Is this a correct form of the in-text citation? Federal laws and rules
appear in the Federal Register. Is this the reference I would use in my
reference page? Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

fraternally yours,

Marion Gwizdala

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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:58:47 -0500
From: Judith Bron <jbron at optonline.net>
To: "Marion Gwizdala, M.S." <marion.gwizdala at verizon.net>,	Writer's
	Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] APA Style: Citing Federal Law
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When referring to references within the text I believe you are correct.
You 
mentioned you will also have a reference section or page.  I've read 
articles on other subjects and when denoting a source they use this
format. 
Judith
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> Dear All,
>    I am wrapping up an article for submission to a major peer-reviewed
> journal and need some guidance citing federal law. If anyone with an 
> expertise in APA style can answer my questions, I would greatly
appreciate 
> the input. In my article, I refer to the ADA and need to cite it
within 
> the text and, of course, on my reference page. Below is one example
from 
> the text of the article and how I have cited it within the text.
>
> The expressed intention of Congress was "to provide clear, strong,
> consistent, enforceable standards addressing discrimination against 
> individuals with disabilities" (42USC 12101 Section 2(b)(2)).
>
>
>
> Is this a correct form of the in-text citation? Federal laws and rules
> appear in the Federal Register. Is this the reference I would use in
my 
> reference page? Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
> fraternally yours,
>
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:07:56 -0600
From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Writing process
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Probably because of the spacial issue.

I know that by knowing how long a foot is, or walking a room and knowing
it 
is twenty feet, helps me determine  how big someones yard is without
walking 
it.

Some things are just too big to see with our hands!

I love pencils. I like the sound, the way they feel, and writing print
in 
general.

But it's an old want. I have plenty of new ones. lol

Color me silly,
Atty

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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:24:54 -0600
From: "The Crowd" <the_crowd at cox.net>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [stylist] Thinking of words
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When I think of words I immediately think of their color. I have
graphemic 
synesthesia and my numbers and letters are in color, but secondly comes
the 
mind seeing of the word and sometimes mine are braille simbols,
sometimes 
printed letters and sometimes a mix of both.

Anyone else do this?

Curious now,
Atty

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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:43:32 -0500
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
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Yes, I do, and the ability has helped me more easily remember phone
numbers, credit card numbers, etc.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam
Ewing 

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When I think of words I immediately think of their color. I 
have graphemic 
synesthesia and my numbers and letters are in color, but 
secondly comes the 
mind seeing of the word and sometimes mine are braille simbols, 
sometimes 
printed letters and sometimes a mix of both.

Anyone else do this?

Curious now,
Atty

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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:56:43 EST
From: KajunCutie926 at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Thinking of words
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Atty, I don't quite do it that way but I seem to be able to read  past 
typos without much difficulty... I think it might be partly because,
though  I 
don't read Braille primarily, I do know Braille.. and I think I somewhat

translate the misspelled word into a Braille contraction and really do
not see  
the typo...like looking at the word as a whole instead of each letter as
a 
part  of a whole.  Yet, what I find totally odd is that I can turn this
off 
when  proofreading work.  Friends will send me the 'often gone around' 
emails  with lists of typos asking you if you can figure out the
words... never a 
 problem for me...
but I also use visualization to remember things as well.. and I  have
been 
told I have an audio data base in my brain   I repeat a  phone number or

bank card number and it's stored away... worked much better when  I was
younger 
though I will admit that  

In a message dated 1/17/2011 9:44:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
jsorozco at gmail.com writes:

Yes, I  do, and the ability has helped me more easily remember phone  
numbers,
credit card numbers, etc.

Joe

"Hard work spotlights  the character of people: some turn up their
sleeves, some turn up their  noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam
Ewing 

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When I think of words I  immediately think of their color. I 
have graphemic 
synesthesia and my  numbers and letters are in color, but 
secondly comes the 
mind seeing  of the word and sometimes mine are braille simbols, 
sometimes 
printed  letters and sometimes a mix of both.

Anyone else do  this?

Curious  now,
Atty

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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:44:22 -0500
From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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Atty,
There is a wealth of scientific evidence of this. I used Krish Sathian's

study at Auburn U. when I wrote my series on Braille Literacy for 
American Chronicle, but I've seen references to other studies elsewhere 
and have a friend who participated in several different studies 
including one at a university in Oregon. There is also evidence that in 
blind people audio reading also stimulates the visual cortex, but the 
tactual/visual cortex connection in blind people seems to be even
stronger. Donna

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On 1/16/2011 9:09 PM, The Crowd wrote:
> When we were testifying to the board about braille I mentioned that
> reading braille stimulates the visual cortex in the brain. I can't 
> even remember where I got that bit of research but there it is.
>
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:52:31 -0500
From: "Anita Adkins" <aadkins7 at verizon.net>
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Hello,

Yes. I always have.  The picture is one single unit for me rather than a

letter-by-letter vision. It has color, and it is always in contracted 
Braille. Colors are associated with this picture because I have a
different 
color for each letter. Perhaps, this is why I can also quickly jump
through 
days or months when hunting for a future date in my mind because I can
use 
color and counting at the same time on the journey. Interestingly, I
have 
been able to identify colors on Uno cards before, but I would guess I am

color blind since I couldn't tell you what color something is if you
showed 
it to me. I imagine the uno card deal was because blue and green are
smooth 
colors. With glasses, green was different-looking than blue. Red is dark
and 
yellow is light, and both are grainy colors to me. So when I say I have
a 
different color for each letter, I cannot identify these colors;
however, 
they are varying shades of light and dark, smooth and grainy. And, if
the 
book I am reading is interesting enough, I do not picture the words on
the 
page at all, but the vision of what scene the words are portraying, for
ex., 
a man walking in a dark alley or a bunch of children on a playground. I 
wonder how sighted people do that since they would both have to see the
word 
and envision the scene. When I envision something, I am not sure, but I 
think my eyes are closed or squinting, at least. In fact, typing this
email 
is an automatic process for me as I am not picturing the words I type,
but 
the scenes that result from the words being typed, in most instances.
Have a great day. Anita

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Subject: [stylist] Thinking of words

> When I think of words I immediately think of their color. I have 
> graphemic
> synesthesia and my numbers and letters are in color, but secondly
comes 
> the mind seeing of the word and sometimes mine are braille simbols, 
> sometimes printed letters and sometimes a mix of both.
>
> Anyone else do this?
>
> Curious now,
> Atty
>
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:57:15 -0500
From: Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net>
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Atty,
When I think of words, I sometimes "see" the print and other times the 
Braille. My experience with seeing colors is mainly while in the act of 
reading Braille. Often I have an overwhelming sensation of light -- to 
the point of squeezing shut already closed eyes.  Sometimes the dots are

different colors, always very bright. I don't notice any consistency 
between the way these colors correspond to specific letters. I used to 
be more aware of colors associated with specific keys in music -- for 
instance, yellow for the key of D, blue for E. Not sure what that's all 
about, though I find it facinating, and sometimes in Braille a bit 
distracting.
Donna

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On 1/17/2011 10:24 AM, The Crowd wrote:
> When I think of words I immediately think of their color. I have
> graphemic synesthesia and my numbers and letters are in color, but 
> secondly comes the mind seeing of the word and sometimes mine are 
> braille simbols, sometimes printed letters and sometimes a mix of
both.
>
> Anyone else do this?
>
> Curious now,
> Atty
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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:21:13 -0600
From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Thinking of words
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I too generally see color associated with words and numbers. Mostly the
colors appear to be consistent. Like the word "word" is always red. The
number 1 is white, 3 is yellow.

Braille dots are also all the same color - brownish gray. 

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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:25 AM
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Subject: [stylist] Thinking of words

When I think of words I immediately think of their color. I have
graphemic synesthesia and my numbers and letters are in color, but
secondly comes the mind seeing of the word and sometimes mine are
braille simbols, sometimes printed letters and sometimes a mix of both.

Anyone else do this?

Curious now,
Atty

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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:41:17 -0600
From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
To: "writers nfb" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [stylist] Monthly Telephone Gathering- January reminder
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Reminder- RE: Our January Telephone Gathering 

The Topic: Technical Writing (from an expert in the field)

Date: January 30th (call info at the bottom of message)

Dear Members:

I am writing with a reminder to attend this months telephone gathering.
We are fortunate to have lined up an expert in the field of "Technical
Communications," or Technical writing. 

Here is a BIO sent to us by our guest, Char James-Tanny. This lady I
believe will prove to be a very interesting speaker. If you can work
your schedule to make it, I bet it will be worth your while, no matter
if you have a desire to become a technical writer or not. 

Bio:

Char James-Tanny is president of JTF Associates, Inc. and has thirty
years of experience as a technical writer and technical communicator.
She speaks around the world on topics including Help authoring concepts
and tools, accessibility, social media, web standards, collaboration,
and technology. Char has been a Microsoft Help MVP since 2002 and is a
senior member of the Society for Technical Communication.

Description:

In the early 80s, most people thought tech writers were the people who
wrote the programs. A lot has changed since then: "technical
communication" is now the recognized field and "technical writers" is
now recognized as a distinct profession by the US Department of Labor's
Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

During this informal session, learn more about technical writing: what
it is (and isn't), how it differs from creative writing, what types of
companies use tech writers,  what educational opportunities are
available, and how to keep up with the latest information. The last half
of the session will be open for questions and answers.

*****

Time: 8:30 Eastern; 7:30 Central; 6:30 Mountain; 5:30 Pacific 

Number to call: (218) 339-4300

Code:  568839 (followed by the pound sign)

Robert Leslie Newman

President- NFB Writers' Division

Division Website

http://www.nfb-writers-division.org

Personal Website-

http://www.thoughtprovoker.info

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