[stylist] Off-Topic Discussions

Tue Jun 7 22:27:55 UTC 2011

To Donna and list,

I would like to plead for you, Donna, and the people of the list, for their 
understanding of my reply on off-topic messages.

All I was trying to say was that I would like to be notified in the subject 
line if something is an off-topic message. I won't speak for Paul and Neil, 
but in general, people of the list are welcoem to discuss whatever they 
like. All I am respectfully asking is that us who would rather just focus on 
writing be aware that something is unrelated to writing.

Please also understand, I am not a person to make waves. I am not a 
confrontational person. Even replying to Neil's original post... I had to 
take a deep breath, because I know that some would misunderstand me. And for 
Donna, I speak very seriously about this, it makes me feel very bad to see 
you apologizing to me. I never wanted an apology. I was only trying to raise 
my hand and agree that it would be nice to have an OT in the subject line.

I would like to continue to be on good terms with people of the list, so 
again I reiterate, I am not saying I don't want to be informed of blind 
issues. I am a blind person, of course I want to know what is going on in 
the rest of the world with blind people. But all I was trying to point out 
is that since this list is specifically called the writing stylist that it 
would be helpful to know when a topic has nothing to do about writing.

This is where I apologize and respectfully, humbly ask for a pardon on any 
misunderstanding and turmoil my last e-mail might have caused.

Sincerely,
Natalie

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From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:49 AM
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [stylist] Off-Topic Discussions

> Natalie,
> My apologies. As I stated in my replies to Neil and Paul, I thought
> blindness related topics were on topic and wasn't interested in starting a
> discussion. I was simply responding to the request of a fellow NFB member
> and writer to spread some information.
>
> Too bad we can't talk about stuff that involves how our fellow blind
> Americans are trying to advance opportunities for blind people. In this
> case, I happen to know that the person would really like some input on
> writing petitions and figuring out how to do hash tags on Twitter.
> Donna
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nat Barrett
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:04 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Off-Topic Discussions
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> May I tentatively raise my hand as someone else who has wondered the same
> thing? I think it's fine to have off-topic discussions, but I would like 
> to
> vote for people to put OT in the subject line followed by the subject, so
> that I can bypass it if I choose.
>
> I would also like to say I'm not attempting to make waves or anything. But
> last week I nearly sent an e-mail identical to Neil's that stated about OT
> messages. I do hope the rest of the list takes this into consideration.
> (smile)
>
> Natalie
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "PAUL BAVER" <pebaver at verizon.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:26 AM
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Off-Topic Discussions
>
>> Hello Neil I am in full agreement with you, I also joined to learn, and 
>> to
>
>> read some of the very great information that this organization should, 
>> and
>
>> does offer. Neil you and I will be getting in a lot of trouble, 
>> commenting
>
>> this way, because there seams to be a control factor, by some members 
>> that
>
>> always seam to have there own agendas, or rag to chew on, I have no 
>> answer
>
>> why, but I guess with any organization  , or group, that's a problem that
>> we all will be forced to deal with. Thank you Neil for a very concerned
>> observation. Paul E Baver
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Neil Butters" <neil.butters at sympatico.ca>
>> To: <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:56 AM
>> Subject: [stylist] Off-Topic Discussions
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to address the use of this mailing list for off-topic
>>> discussions, such as the recent NYC Blind Vendors postings and other
>>> non-writing related topics.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't this list be restricted to writing topics only? I'm getting a
>>> little bit tired of being flooded with off-topic back-and-forths,
>>> political commentary, arguments and the like that belong elsewhere. Does
>>> anyone else feel the same way? Shouldn't these posts be discouraged, or
>>> am I missing the point of this list.?
>>>
>>> One way we could deal with it, if people want such off-topic diatribe to
>>> continue, would be to include the "Off-topic" designation in the subject
>>> to tell readers that the post has nothing to do with writing. This
>>> doesn't really solve the "problem," though, since we could still receive
>>> many off-topic messages.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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