[stylist] Another question for all

Thu Jun 16 11:27:23 UTC 2011

Another option would be for the division to have a Drop Box account 
which files could be posted in eh Public area for a designated time 
for folks to download. Its much simpler Just copy and paste the file 
in the folder and boom its available to all :). No special uploading. 
If you wish to do that, my referral link for it is below or I'm sure 
there's a straight up link.

http://db.tt/xZ1IxoQ

Brad

On 6/16/2011  05:37 AM Robert Leslie Newman said...
>Once our Division's site is up again, they all will be available there.
>Until then (which I think the site will be up in less than a week), I could
>send one or more of those MP3 files up onto  Send Space (have you used that)
>and you could download the file from there and listen to it on your
>computer. So which one or ones do you want to listen to?
>
>(You get a message from Send space with a link to go and retrieve the
>files.)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Pranav
>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:36 PM
>To: newmanrl at cox.net; 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Another question for all
>
>Robert,
>
>Can we listen to the recording over the Internet instead of using a
>telephone?
>
>Pranav
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Robert Leslie Newman
>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 1:34 AM
>To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Another question for all
>
>Jackie
>
>I've not seen anyone answer your question (like me, they were probably
>waiting for the next guy to do so). Anyway, pardon me for taking so long.
>And what I suggest is, that you take a listen to that recorded meeting. (I'm
>not sure that question was answered --- but I'm not certain it wasn't). Here
>is the info for you to listen to that recording via your telephone:
>
>Tel#- 1-218-339-4300
>ID#- 568839 "then the pound key"
>Reference#- 14
>
>**One other option to get your answer- I will send Margo your question. And
>so if you choose to go this route, write the best question you can and I'll
>cut and paste it into a message.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Jacqueline Williams
>Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 1:21 PM
>To: newmanrl at cox.net; 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: [stylist] Another question for all
>
>I am sad that I missed the phone session. There is a question that
>interested me very much. If any of you have notes from the conversation I
>would very much like to have you share them with me. Here is the question.
>1. What is the place of rhyming or other "form" poetry in today's publishing
>world? I think I stand about half and half so far, leaning toward the
>rhymed. Forms and rhyming seem to give me a huge shot in the arm when I
>cannot see what I am writing. Or at least it helps with the memory of lines
>and refrains I can send samples if there is interest in this subject.
>Thanks, poets.
>Jackie.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Robert Leslie Newman
>Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:02 PM
>To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Interesting article on Haibun
>
>I love all you guys too!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Jacqueline Williams
>Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:29 PM
>To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [stylist] Interesting article on Haibun
>
>Donna, Myrna, all,
>I am learning so much from all of you. Donna, thank you for your insight on
>posting a piece in the works on this site, and how it differs from
>publishing on-line.
>Myrna, I loved your Haibun. This surprised me because we had studied the
>form in my last poetry class before summer break. I am not good at nature
>poems so I did not save the handout to scan. Your piece was a wonderful
>melding of human-interest, pertinent to understanding of the blind, yet
>connected strongly to nature. So I am saving your included article, Donna,
>on the form.
>Shawn, I have studied your 40 word poems, and think they are great.
>Jacqueline Williams
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Donna Hill
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:32 PM
>To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>Subject: [stylist] Interesting article on Haibun
>
>Hi Friends,
>
>Spurred on by Myrna's excellent piece, I Googled Haibun and thought you
>might enjoy reading this. I'll list the URL and then copy the article below
>that.
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Donna
>
>From:
>
>http://raysweb.net/haibun_Ray/pages/haibundefinition.html
>
>Block quote
>
>Haibun Definitions
>
>
>
>Contemporary haibun is a combination of prose and haiku poetry, sometimes
>described as 'a narrative of epiphany'. Like English haiku, English haibun
>is
>
>evolving as it becomes more widely practiced in the English speaking world.
>
>
>
>In 1690, Basho Matsuo is said to have initiated the travel or diary haibun
>genre in a letter to a friend (Genjuan no ki, The Hut of the Phantom
>Dwelling)
>
>that concluded with a haiku. The letter referred to the period when Basho
>lived for several months on a hill on the southern shore of Lake Biwa east
>of
>
>Kyoto.
>
>
>
>Bruce Ross in an essay entitled "North American Versions of Haiku", in
>Modern Haiku, Winter-Spring 1997, states that haibun has "syntax that is
>dominated
>
>by images" and cites Makoto Ueda's four characteristics of haibun:
>
>
>
>1) a brevity and conciseness of haiku
>
>2) a deliberately ambiguous use of certain particles and verb forms in
>places where the conjunction 'and' would be used in English
>
>3) a dependence on imagery
>
>4) the writer's detachment
>
>
>
>Ken Jones, in a book review posted in Blythe Spirit suggested the following:
>
>
>
>A haiku collection can be reviewed within a broad consensus of discourse.
>But in the more eclectic haibun tradition there are no such recognized
>markers.
>
>Reviewers and editors therefore need to set out some criteria so that their
>readers are aware of the standards to which they are working. Here I have
>used
>
>four sets of criteria. They are based on Basho's view of haibun as haikai no
>bunsho - 'writing in the style of haiku'.
>
>
>
>First, I would expect direct, concrete, economical imagery, infused with
>life and energy and eschewing abstraction and intellection. The editors
>refer to
>
>'sensibility and revelation rather than narrative and disclosure'.
>
>
>
>Second, I would expect haibun prose to be light handed, elusive, open-ended,
>playful and even ironic, 'in the style of haiku'. And at a deeper,
>existential,
>
>level should we not expect something of that ambiguity and mystery found in
>the best haiku? Presumably this is the 'narrative of an epiphany' which the
>
>present editors claim to have sought.
>
>
>
>Third, just as haiku are literature in miniature, with their own internal
>and external disciplines, so should we expect haibun also to have the
>complexity,
>
>subtlety and unfolding of literary artifacts. Corresponding to the feeling
>of the 'haiku moment' is the emotional experience which itself appears to
>write,
>
>energize and organize the haibun for its writer.
>
>
>
>Finally, at least as a bonus, we might hope to find something of Haruo
>Shirane's 'vertical axis' of myth, literature, history - and life in the
>postmodern
>
>...
>
>
>
>From: Ken Jones, A Review of Up Against the Window: American Haibun and
>Haiga, Volume 1, ed Jim Kacian and Bruce Ross, Blythe Spirit, v11 No 2, June
>2001
>
>
>
>Paul Conneally, Haibun Director of the World Haiku Club, defines current
>English haibun as: "Prose that has many of the characteristics associated
>with
>
>haiku-present tense (and shifts of tense though predominant voice
>'present'), imagistic, shortened or interesting syntax, joining words such
>as 'and' limited
>
>maybe, a sense of 'being there', descriptions of places people met and above
>all 'brevity'. The haiku ... should link to the prose but is not a direct
>
>carry on from the prose telling some of what has already been said - no - it
>should lead us on - let our mind want for more, start traveling."
>
>
>
>The Haiku Society of America [HSA] has posted the following definition of
>haibun: "A haibun is a terse, relatively short prose poem in the haikai
>style,
>
>usually including both lightly humorous and more serious elements. A haibun
>usually ends with a haiku. Most haibun range from well under 100 words to
>200
>
>or 300. Some longer haibun may contain a few haiku interspersed between
>sections of prose. In haibun the connections between the prose and any
>included
>
>haiku may not be immediately obvious, or the haiku may deepen the tone, or
>take the work in a new direction, recasting the meaning of the foregoing
>prose,
>
>much as a stanza in a linked-verse poem revises the meaning of the previous
>verse. Japanese haibun apparently developed from brief prefatory notes
>occasionally
>
>written to introduce individual haiku, but soon grew into a distinct genre.
>The word "haibun" is sometimes applied to longer works, such as the memoirs,
>
>diaries, or travel writings of haiku poets, though technically they are
>parts of the separate and much older genres of journal and travel
>literature. [From
>
>the HSA Definitions Web site]
>
>Block quote end
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>=======
>Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.
>(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17690)
>http://www.pctools.com/ =======
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/jackieleepoet%40cox
>.net
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/newmanrl%40cox.net
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/jackieleepoet%40cox
>.net
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/newmanrl%40cox.net
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/contact%40pranavwri
>tes.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/newmanrl%40cox.net
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Writers Division web site:
>http://www.nfb-writers-division.org <http://www.nfb-writers-division.org/>
>
>stylist mailing list
>stylist at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for stylist:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/lists%40braddunsemusic.com
>
>
>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
>signature database 6213 (20110616) __________
>
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
>http://www.eset.com

Brad Dunse

Concerned about the expense of your life destination?
...If you don't flat out enjoy the journey, it already costs too 
much. --Anonymous

http://www.braddunsemusic.com

http://www.facebook.com/braddunse

http://www.twitter.com/braddunse