[stylist] Visual illusions

Tue Feb 21 22:25:44 UTC 2012

My eyes get exhausted and then I get really nasty headaches.  Seems like if 
I am out in a crowd and there is a lot of motion going on around me, they 
get very exhausted. I guess they are like a camera that is constantly trying 
to focus - my brain still ttries to focus on things and it does not happen.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eve Sanchez" <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Visual illusions

I forgot to ask how the rubbing of eyes fits in here. You said your eyes
get tired and you rub them a lot. Same here. Does that mean something? Eve

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Lynda Lambert 
<llambert at zoominternet.net>wrote:

> the fireworks come from the back of the eye and can completely take out
> your retina - so yes, a retina specialist would be the best choice I 
> think.
>
> Good LUCK to you!!! I hope it goes very well  and that perhaps you CAN get
> a little help.  After four years, I still go every 6 months to the retina
> specialist as he is keeping an eye on my situation. I have had to have a
> couple of emergency visits before the 6 months was up, but I am so glad to
> know we are keeping on top of the situation and it helps me to be fully
> informed and not guessing. I like to know exactly what is going on - then 
> I
> can deal with it.
>
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:02 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Visual illusions
>
>
> Wow, the simularities are incredible. I also had trouble reading to my
> class as I did every day and had to have my aid read. Still in deniel
> though I could not recognize people as I could not see their heads
> (presumably I am shorter than you). I always feel as if my eyes are tired
> though I am well rested. I find it interesting and kinda funny that we are
> mirroring each other. I go to the doctor next week and this is a different
> doctor than the glaucoma specialist who refused to acknowlege my retina
> issues so maybe I could talk to him about a referral. Dont know if 
> anything
> could be done at this point, but I guess it is worth keeping on top of.
> Thanks for sharing. Eve
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Lynda Lambert <llambert at zoominternet.net>
> **wrote:
>
>  AFter four years of sight loss, Eve, I am just beginning to get the
>> fireworks. I go to a retina specialist - was sent to him immediately when
>> my first symptoms started happening. The fireworks, in my case, are the
>> jelly at the back of the eye beginning to harden and tear. I see the
>> fireworks only on the peripheral outside of my right eye. He said that
>> this
>> happens to everyone as they age - I am 68 years old.  He told me the
>> tearing has started, but I will know when it really rips loose as I will
>> see an enormous flash of light - and this will mean it has torn loose. He
>> said the danger is that sometimes when it tears loose, it takes the 
>> retina
>> with it. At that point, I would have only a week to have surgery to 
>> repair
>> it. If not repaired, then that eye would be totally dark, no sight , no
>> light perception at all.  Right now, the flashes are slight but they get
>> my
>> attention. I see them only at night when I am outside in the dark with my
>> dogs. They are there during the day, but of course I cannot see them due
>> to
>> the amount of day time light.
>>
>> Like you, I was having a hard time seeing for ahile - a few months. I 
>> used
>> to rub my eyes, and thought I was just tired. In class, some days I could
>> not read the text I was teaching, and I recall telling the students "I am
>> having a hard time seeing today." I would ask them to read the poem to 
>> the
>> class, where normally I would have read them to the class. Later on,
>> closer
>> to the big event that took my sight, I began to see only half of a
>> person's
>> face - they would disappear from the eyes up. I would see only the bottom
>> half of their faces. That is when I went to the eye doctor - who
>> immediately knew something major was hapening and immediately sent me to
>> the hospital for blook work and to the retina specialist within 24 hours.
>> I
>> had waited nearly 3 weeks from the time the faces disappeared and the
>> sight
>> blurred, before I went to the doctors. Talk about denial! I was just sure
>> all I needed was some rest and a good night's sleep. Wrong!
>>
>> Lynda
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:12 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Visual illusions
>>
>>
>>  ++I know those colors well. I see them often and that was one of the
>> first
>> indicaters for me that something was wrong. That and my sudden inabiliy 
>> to
>> read. I had great difficulty driving also and a big part of it was the
>> distraction of what I called 'fireworks'. My doctor did say it had to do
>> with my retina seperating, but was not concerned. He kept telling me that
>> I
>> needed to worry more about my glaucoma but of course he was a glaucoma
>> specialist. Would almost prefer total dark than sporatic colors as it is
>> distracting and often startles me when it starts as I reflexively try to
>> figure out what is causing movement. Would love to hear more about your
>> findings. It is curious that all the people that seem to experience this
>> are the naturally visual artistic people (me too). Eve
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Lynda Lambert <llambert at zoominternet.net
>> >
>> **wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Yes, this fits what I see...cartoon or movie scenes in movement and full
>>
>>>  vivid and very moving color. Very high energy imagery! They are talking
>>> and
>>> very animated, but I do not hear anthing. It is all visual illusions. I
>>> have to say, I keep this to myself - as far as friends and family go,
>>> they
>>> know nothing of it. Besides, most people expect an artist to be a bit
>>> strange anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> I did have an experience one morning a few years before my sight loss
>>> problems though. I still think there is a connection to what happened to
>>> me
>>> that morning, and with my eventual sight loss.
>>>
>>> I was going to be lecturing that morning on Classical Greek Sculpture 
>>> and
>>> culture to nearly 200 students. Just before I was to begin, I walked out
>>> to
>>> the podium to be sure my lecture notes were there, and that the
>>> microphones, recorder, and slide projecter were all set to go.  I looked
>>> down at my typed notes and as I looked at the page, there was no text
>>> there
>>> at all. The page, instead, was alive with brilliant neon colored and
>>> moving
>>> geometric shapes. The words and text had turned into a virtual light 
>>> show
>>> of moving shapes and neon colors. I immediately went back to the media
>>> area
>>> just off the stage, where two of my colleagues were making sure all the
>>> recording stuff was ready for my lecture. I walked in and asked them to
>>> please pray for me. They asked, what is wrong?
>>>
>>> I told them "I cannot see. I cannot see anything on the papers of 
>>> notes."
>>>
>>> It was now time for me to walk onto the stage and begin the lecture. I
>>> walked out and took my place behind the podium, switched on the mike at
>>> my
>>> waist. I thought, "This is going to be the most horrifying day of my 
>>> life
>>> because I cannot see anything.  I will have to just begin the lecture
>>> from
>>> my memory, and go as far as I can." But, I knew I would never be able to
>>> deliver that lecture without notes - 55 minutes of very detailed
>>> information, with dates, places. No way could I do this!
>>>
>>> All I can remember of it was that I stepped out from behind the podium,
>>> walked forward toward the students seated in the audience, and opened my
>>> mouth to begin the lecture.
>>>
>>> I was in a dream it seemed. But it was no dream. It was really 
>>> happening.
>>>  I continued to talk, and somehow, I don't even remember any more
>>> details,
>>> as I walked back to the podium, I could again see text. The neon was
>>> gone.
>>> I have no idea how long it was before I could see that text - I was in a
>>> state of shock, I am sure.
>>>
>>> I told several doctors about this experience, and nobody seemed to think
>>> it was anything serious. I later read about this type of thing hapening
>>> when people had migraine headaches. I have had migraine headaches for
>>> many
>>> years. And, when I lost my sight, it was after a number of days of very
>>> severe migraine headaches. I do not think there is a coincidence in this
>>> -
>>>
>>> Have any of you here had any kind of visual experiences like this?
>>>
>>> Lynda
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Williams" <
>>> jackieleepoet at cox.net>
>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad, Donna, Lynda, and others,
>>> Yes, synesthesia is the one where often letters, or even musical notes
>>> are
>>> seen in color. The other is a syndrome starting with B. It may be
>>> Barnet's
>>> syndrome. It is when you actually see scenes in movement and full color.
>>> I
>>> was seeing yellow butterflies for a time, and then northern lights of
>>> chartreuse green. The retinologist told me about it, and I think I have
>>> it
>>> in my computer. I till look. Yes, it is easy to think we are crazy at
>>> times.
>>> But isn't it exciting in some ways to feel we have secret visions that
>>> few
>>> can share?
>>> More later.
>>> Jacqui
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Brad Dunsé
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:17 AM
>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>
>>>
>>>  * synaesthesia?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> ... It is like my brain sending short animations to me this
>>>> way - very very animated and colorful. I think there is a term for this
>>>> -
>>>> cannot think of it at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> It is like I live on two levels - two realities - most of the time. My
>>>> husband has told me we do not even live on the same planet!
>>>>
>>>> Lynda
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Jackie and Lynda,
>>>> > I too relate to the visual learning thing. When I first received 
>>>> > audio
>>>> > books
>>>> > (freshman year of college), I had a heck of a time staying awake. To
>>>>
>>>> this
>>>>
>>>
>>> > day, I have vivid visual images and still construct visual images of
>>>
>>>> > things
>>>> > I'm trying to learn. Often when I'm reading Braille, the dots jump >
>>>> into
>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>
>>>
>>>  > visual center as bright colored lights. Sometimes, the images are so
>>>
>>>>  > bright,
>>>> > that my eyes squeeze shut -- even when they're already shut. Weird, >
>>>> huh?
>>>> > Donna
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>   > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org > [mailto:stylist-bounces@****
>>>> nfbn**
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>>>> bounces at nfbnet.org <stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> >]
>>>> On
>>>> > Behalf Of Jacqueline Williams
>>>> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:53 PM
>>>> > To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>> > Subject: Re: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Linda,
>>>> > I am so glad that you answered me in such detail. Your life story 
>>>> > both
>>>> > before and after blindness is fascinating and inspiring. When someone
>>>> > shares
>>>> > the detail of the transition, I think we all learn something more >
>>>> about
>>>> > ourselves.
>>>> > The part of your story I relate to the most is the part of being a
>>>>
>>>>  visual
>>>>
>>>
>>> > learner, and the difficulty of transitioning to having to live in the
>>>
>>>> > auditory modality.
>>>> > There are so many other similarities.
>>>> > I know that all members on the list will be enheartened by your 
>>>> > story,
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>
>>> > how you came to grips with that steep learning curve.
>>>
>>>> > When I get through this mountain of new e-mails, I will try to send >
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>
>>> > few poems, the first I wrote using JAWS and the most difficult I have
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ever
>>>>
>>>
>>>  > attemped using the computer. A day does not go by without learning
>>>
>>>>  some
>>>> > little new detail that makes it a bit easier.
>>>> > With respect and gratitude for sharing.
>>>> > Jackie
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
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>>>> nfbn**
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>>>> >]
>>>> On
>>>> > Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 7:16 AM
>>>> > To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>> > Subject: Re: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>> >
>>>> > Good Morning Jackie,
>>>> > thanks for your comments on my poem (in a separate email) and on my
>>>> > website.
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree with the comments that I need to change the last thought in >
>>>> the
>>>> > poem, as some others have suggested. I am THINKING about it.
>>>> > You know how that is - things just stick in your mind until you know
>>>>
>>>>  what
>>>>
>>>
>>> > to
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > do next. I was in that state of mind all night long, as I was 
>>>> > thinking
>>>> > about
>>>> >
>>>> > making pottery today, and thinking about HOW I would do it. Going 
>>>> > over
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>
>>> > over the process in my subconscious mind - maddening! lol
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > My website and blogs:
>>>> > I had very extensive knowlege about how to do websites and blogs >
>>>> BEFORE
>>>> > sight loss. I had two blogs and have had this website for many years.
>>>> > (I
>>>> > am
>>>> > a former professor of Fine Arts and Humanities, at Geneva College,
>>>>
>>>> Beaver
>>>>
>>>
>>> > Falls, PA)
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I had two other blogs before this one. I wrote about one of my >
>>>> passions,
>>>> > knitting. I did it for relaxation and to share
>>>> > information/patterns/finished
>>>> >
>>>> > projects on the blogs.
>>>> > It was a nice getaway from my professional life -
>>>> >
>>>> > My website? I have been an actively exhibiting fine artist for well >
>>>> over
>>>> > 35
>>>> > years. The website was where I shared images of my paintings, wood 
>>>> > cut
>>>> > prints, upcoming show information, and my travel/study trips to 
>>>> > Europe
>>>> > every
>>>> >
>>>> > summer. The website was a recruiting tool for that program. I lived 
>>>> > in
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>
>>> > Alps in austria every summer until 2008 (I lost my sight in the fall 
>>> > of
>>>
>>>> > 2007). I took college students to Austria for a month every summer.
>>>>
>>>> While
>>>>
>>>
>>> > there I worked in my art studio in a village outside of Salzburg. I
>>>
>>>>
>>>> taught
>>>>
>>>
>>> > classes every morning Monday - Thursday until noon. Our class worked 
>>> > in
>>>
>>>> > the
>>>> > studio, and each day we took trips all over the area and did writing 
>>>> >  >
>>>> and
>>>> > art
>>>> >
>>>> > at a different location every day. On weekends, I took the students 
>>>> > to
>>>> > a
>>>> > different country - Italy for the Redintore Festival every year in >
>>>> July.
>>>> > Czech Republic, where we visited small villages and of course, 
>>>> > Prague.
>>>> > Germany, many many places in Germany including Hamburg, Luneburg,
>>>>
>>>> Munich,
>>>>
>>>
>>> > and more.
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > This is how I knew HOW to make a website - through marketing my own >
>>>> art
>>>> > and
>>>> > my Drawing and Writing in Salzburg courses.
>>>> >
>>>> > When I lost my sight - overnight - I was completely LOST. For five
>>>>
>>>> months
>>>>
>>>
>>> > I
>>>
>>>> > really sat in a chair and listened to Public Radio as I did not know 
>>>> >  >
>>>> how
>>>> > to
>>>> > do anyting at all. My husband brought me books on CDs from the local
>>>> > library - I was completely LOST and no one knew what to do with me. >
>>>> It
>>>> > took
>>>> >
>>>> > five months of very hard work to learn that there was such a thing as
>>>> > rehab
>>>> > for blind people - and finally, after an existance that was >
>>>> meaningless,
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>
>>> > got to go to a rehab center in Pittsburgh.
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > There, I learned that I could do things again. But the realization >
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>
>>> > had in an instant gone from teaching and lecturing on a very high >
>>>
>>>> level,
>>>> > and
>>>> >
>>>> > had plunged to a level that was less than kindergarden became very >
>>>> clear
>>>> > to
>>>> > me. You were so right about the LEARNING CURVE - it is the steepest
>>>> > learning
>>>> >
>>>> > curve I have ever experienced, just to begin to live again and do the
>>>>
>>>> most
>>>>
>>>
>>> > basic things. I was at the center for 15 weeks, and did very well. I
>>>
>>>>
>>>> still
>>>>
>>>
>>> > had no computer skills, and that took another year or two for me to
>>>
>>>>
>>>> begin
>>>>
>>>
>>> > to
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > work on the computer again...It was two years before I could start >
>>>> that
>>>> > blog
>>>> >
>>>> > that you saw. And, I can now post things on my website, do photos, 
>>>> > and
>>>> > list
>>>> > exhibitions as I need to have them there.
>>>> >
>>>> > Everything about me and my life was VISUAL. I am a visual learner, a
>>>> > visual
>>>> > thinker, and a visual person. I still am! Sight loss has greatly >
>>>> altered
>>>> > how
>>>> >
>>>> > I see things, but it still has to be visual for me to "get it." My
>>>>
>>>> weakest
>>>>
>>>
>>> > area was always learning anything through listening. Even when I
>>>
>>>>
>>>> attended
>>>>
>>>
>>> > a
>>>
>>>> > lecture, or read a book, I had a pencil in my hand and I was 
>>>> > writing -
>>>> > making it all VISUAL.  I still have to find ways to make what I hear
>>>>
>>>> into
>>>>
>>>
>>> > an
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > image in my mind - so I can remember it or learn new things. That 
>>>> > will
>>>>
>>>> not
>>>>
>>>
>>> > change - it is my core. For me, a poem is first a visual work of art. 
>>> >  >
>>>
>>>> It
>>>> > has
>>>> >
>>>> > form, shape, and organization. And, each poetry book is a work of 
>>>> > art,
>>>> > first
>>>> >
>>>> > of all. I collect books by Contemporary poets, especially American
>>>>
>>>> poets.
>>>>
>>>
>>> > My
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > library walls are filled with books of contemporary poetry - and in 
>>>> > my
>>>> > mind
>>>> > it is fine art. It is visual both in appearance and when we listen to
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>
>>> > words. I am crazy about post modern poetry and literature - I used to
>>>
>>>> > teach
>>>> > it at the college.
>>>> >
>>>> > Well, I did not know I would write such a long post, but you asked, 
>>>> > so
>>>> > I
>>>> > answered. After all, I am used to doing lectures so I LILKE to >
>>>> discuss
>>>> > things of interest.  lol
>>>> > Lynda
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Jacqueline Williams" <jackieleepoet at cox.net>
>>>> > To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:15 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Linda,
>>>> >> What an inspiring website. Who helped you with your website? It is 
>>>> >>  >>
>>>> hard
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> imagine accomplishing this with  no or low vision.   I would say 
>>>> >> that
>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>
>>>  >> are a     speed-learner.
>>>
>>>>  >> Are you familiar with Reiki? Just thinking about how beautiful the
>>>> >> symbols
>>>> >> would be if done in beading. Though they are not made available to 
>>>> >> an
>>>> >> untrained practitioner.
>>>> >> Jackie
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org >> [mailto:stylist-bounces@****
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>>>> On
>>>> >> Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:24 AM
>>>> >> To: Zgal at Zoominternet.net
>>>> >> Subject: [stylist] Art is God's Voice
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Friends,
>>>> >> Just published a new blog article this morning.
>>>> >> You might enjoy it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://walkingbyinnervision.******blogspot.com/2012/02/art-is-****<http://blogspot.com/2012/02/art-is-**>
>>>> <http://blogspot.com/2012/**02/art-is-**<http://blogspot.com/2012/02/art-is-**>
>>>> >
>>>> gods-voice.html<http://****walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.****
>>>> com/2012/02/art-is-gods-voice.****html<http://**
>>>> walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.**com/2012/02/art-is-gods-voice.**html<http://walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com/2012/02/art-is-gods-voice.html>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We are getting some nice snow here this morning. It is so 
>>>> >> refreshing.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>>  >> and I walked through the woods along the creek this morning - such a
>>>
>>>> >> beautiful day!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Lynda
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Lynda Lambert
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>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
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