[stylist] Awards and Coffee Cans

Fri Jun 29 14:47:57 UTC 2012

SBDC - at Clarion University, Clarion, PA

I was sent there through the OVR folks from the Erie office of Blind and 
Vision Services, Erie, PA.

The ball was dropped by everyone involved in sending me there. IT turnd out 
that after I sat through this for three days, I was told it was to get me 
off of disability and be self supporting - well, I am a retired professor 
and I have never been on disability in my life! So this program was not even 
for a person like me. But it sure did wake me up to what other blind people 
who go there in the future are in for...lost at sea!

Lynda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin.Williams2" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Awards and Coffee Cans

> What program was this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:17 AM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Awards and Coffee Cans
>
> Yes, the program I was sent to this week is a federal program. When I told
> the director "It seems to me that you really don't seem to have blind 
> people
> coming here for training, since you have no blind accessible equipment for
> us."  She paused and said, weakly, "well, we did have a blind man come 
> here
> once, with his dog. He just sat and listened."  Hmmmmm....sat and 
> listened"
> for three days"  Yep. Me, too.
>
> Well, the very interesting thing to me is that there was a deaf woman who
> sat next to me.  For her, they provided TWO interpreters who took 20 
> minutes
> sessions with her. One would interpret for 20 minutes, then the other 
> would
> step in and take over.  This was done the entire 3 days, 8 hours per day,
> for her. For me, all I needed was a computer that was equipped with JAWS 
> or
> Zoom Text and I would have been just fine - NOPE. They told me that it 
> costs
>
> too much money for those programs so they don't buy them.   I can't help 
> but
>
> wonder how much money it costs to provide two professional interpreters 
> for
> 3 days at 8 hours per day? Just sayin.
> Lynda Lambert
> 104 River Road
> Ellwood City, PA 16117
>
> 724 758 4979
>
> My Blog:  http://www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
> My Website:  http://lyndalambert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Awards and Coffee Cans
>
>
>> Eve,
>> our public libraries don't have assistive technology either. I suggest 
>> you
>
>> advocate for it as I plan to.
>> Yes it seems like the law of equal access isn't enforced. Yes federal
>> government will give disabled workers jobs, but not equal access to
>> training materials and often they get menial responsibilities because
>> software isn't accessible. My blind friends tell me that
>> online training isn't accessible. Yep the worst offender.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Eve Sanchez
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:16 AM
>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Awards and Coffee Cans
>>
>> Your training sounds both horrible and familiar. I am sorry you had to go
>> through that. Sometimes I do not understand the purpose of the ADA laws 
>> of
>> accessability. There are so many places that do not even try and it seems
>> okay. I often have my 5 year old granddaughter take me to the bathroom in
>> public because she could identify the women's while I cannot always do 
>> so.
>> There are rarely Braile or even raised identifiers around and as for
>> accessible technology... forget it. Our library has a full computer lab,
>> but nothing accessible and it is a public library that receives 
>> government
>> funding. I have heard that the federal government is the biggest offender
>> even. My brother and sister in law work for the IRS and they often have
>> the
>> same problems you met up with- going to trainings and not having anything
>> they can access. I went to the bank yesterday and they now have new 
>> number
>> pads that are touch. The teller asked me to put in my pin and I told her
>> there were no numbers. Until recently they had tactile number pads. Why
>> did
>> they get rid of them? They have the laws, I just wish they would enforce
>> them. Eve
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Lynda Lambert
>> <llambert at zoominternet.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I am so excited for you in this move. It is an enormous step into a new
>>> life! So glad you are now connected to a new group already. Those are 
>>> the
>>> things that really help. When I moved to California, I very quickly 
>>> found
>>> some really great friends at the school where I worked, and I also found
>>> a
>>> church that I loved. I am still in touch with folks from there after all
>>> these years - I left there in December 2002, to begin a new job here in
>>> January 2003.
>>> I honestly believe that you have a divine gift for writing.
>>>
>>> My three days at the OVR training was so bizzarre that you would have 
>>> had
>>> to be there to even imagine it. They had NOTHING for me to be able to be
>>> successful with the course - no JAWS, no ZoomText, no scanner, no 
>>> nothing
>>> for a blind person This was my worst fear, and I kept having the feeling
>>> that this was going to happen. I had checked with my OVR people and 
>>> asked
>>> them to be sure they were prepared for me - but no. Seems the workshop
>>> folks never had a blind person there before. They just talked over me as
>>> if
>>> I was not there most of the time - it was really not a very nice
>>> experience. And, in addition to all this, I was not even qualified to be
>>> there as I am not, and never have been, on SS Disability. This program 
>>> is
>>> to get people to develop a business and grow it over a 3 year period to
>>> get
>>> them OFF disability....sheesh! I am retired, aged 69 next month, and on
>>> Social Security for old folks like me. All this after I sat on a hard
>>> chair
>>> for 8 hours a day, for three days - OMG, I am so sore, my back hurts so
>>> much! And, all the information was on power point, which of course I
>>> cannot
>>> see! My husband is so mad - he had to give up three days of his life to
>>> take me there, and sit through those 3 days with me. Not a great
>>> experience, I have to say.
>>>
>>> I am looking forward to going on the GIRLZ Art Retreat on July 8th - so
>>> much.
>>>
>>> OH, good news, while I was away - I WON an award for one of my encrusted
>>> beaded Talismans in a juried art show. Very good news after my horrid 3
>>> days adventure - so glad something good happened anyway.
>>>
>>> I will attach a photo of my granddaughter Angel with the winning piece -
>>> they took the photo for the local newspaper.
>>>
>>> Talk to you soon. Lynda
>>> Lynda Lambert
>>> 104 River Road
>>> Ellwood City, PA 16117
>>>
>>> 724 758 4979
>>>
>>> My Blog:
>>>
> http://www.**walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.**com<http://www.walkingbyinnervi
> sion.blogspot.com/>
>>> My Website:  http://lyndalambert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Awards and Coffee Cans
>>>
>>>
>>>  I have the list of five words sitting next to my bed and do intend on
>>>> getting to it someday as well. haha   Funny how we have so many
>>>> different
>>>> cultures within one little country while over in places like Europe 
>>>> they
>>>> have many many countries on one little continent. haha      I have also
>>>> never had anyone creamated, but I have often heard the term and like I
>>>> said, I didnt start out to write this thing. It was just there. Cool
>>>> huh?
>>>> So I have not moved to Arizona yet (next week), but I have already
>>>> joined
>>>> a
>>>> new writing group in Cottonwood. I made contact with the groups leader
>>>> last
>>>> night and she laughed hysterically throughout the whole conversation.
>>>> She
>>>> thought it was funny that someone from 'Pocatello, Idaho' was calling 
>>>> to
>>>> join her group. (She had looked at the caller id before answering).
>>>> Funny
>>>> things are all around, great inspiration for us if we take the time to
>>>> absorb it. ;) Eve
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Lambert
>>>> <llambert at zoominternet.net
>>>> >**wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Jackie, this is GREAT NEWS - TOOT TOOT TOOT away, girl. You deserve 
>>>> the
>>>>> KUDOS and the Hooray's. You have EARNED the honors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eve, thanks for clarification. haha  it was fun to try and figure it
>>>>> out
>>>>> -
>>>>> I really never even thought of ashes in the cans, but I was pretty
>>>>> close
>>>>> on
>>>>> the flowers and the house decor. I really liked the poem very much, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> the
>>>>> images were so very clear - I could see them as I read. You are so
>>>>> right,
>>>>> cultural history enters into our interpretations. I cannot think of
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> in my family who was cremated, so it is not anything I am familiar
>>>>> with -
>>>>> and never thought of it for the coffee cans. Nice work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still want to do the 5 word poem, but have not had a chance to even
>>>>> sit
>>>>> down to think about it - but don't rule me out just yet -
>>>>> maybe...maybe.
>>>>> Lynda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Kuell" <ckuell at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Awards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations, Jackie--that's wonderful news.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Williams" <
>>>>>> jackieleepoet at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:25 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] Awards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am truly a happy camper today, and forgive me if I blow my own horn
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just received five awards through the mail yesterday from the 
>>>>>>> NFSPS
>>>>>>> 2012
>>>>>>> Annual Contest. It stands for the National Federation of State 
>>>>>>> Poetry
>>>>>>> Societies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None of them were a first, second, or third place, which means no
>>>>>>> money,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> there was a 1st, 2nd, one 5th, and two 7th place Honorable Mentions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have recently attached two of these to my e-mails to you. Medicine
>>>>>>> Wheel,
>>>>>>> which was "Our American Indian Heritage Award,  and "Rocky", which
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the topic of When bad things happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will only burden you with one attachment. Mainly because I thought
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> hilarious that it got an award. It was from the League of Minnesota
>>>>>>> Poets
>>>>>>> Award, and the category of long free verse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In it, I have taken the name of an angle worm. Who asked me about
>>>>>>> anthropomorphic poems? Not sure this is one, but I was trying also 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> portray the voice of one dead, a Spoon River.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The bright spot is that with an honorable mention, I can submit the
>>>>>>> poem
>>>>>>> again with the confidence that it is a good one that might be in 
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> tweak or two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In only one of the five were the judge's comments included. In her
>>>>>>> remarks
>>>>>>> she stressed the importance of not having even one error in 
>>>>>>> spelling,
>>>>>>> punctuation, or usage. In her category there were 257 poems, and
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> with even one error was automatically discarded because it was so
>>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>>> to winnow out even the ones with  perfect form, so that she could
>>>>>>> concentrate on content, form, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is doubly difficult when you use a screen reader to accomplish
>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>> am sure you all know. But I would encourage you to try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone wants the information on next year's contest, I will be
>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>> it for myself, and could make an attachment. The problems, the
>>>>>>> scanner
>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>> makes mistakes in spelling or skipping some things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I missed the phone conference on Sunday. As Lynda has said,
>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>> contact means a great deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jackie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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