[stylist] Not Choice but Destiny, a sestina, per Lynda

Thu May 31 18:15:02 UTC 2012

Eve,
First, thank you for your considered thoughts on "Not Choice but Destiny. I
agree that it might be difficult to understand without re-reading and
catching the three generations it tried to capture. Also, I agree that
deep-set convictions might cause a barrier to understanding.
However, as poets, our function should be, I think, to shake up everyone's
deeply held convictions. Enough so that these convictions are revisited with
deep thought and research.
As for Mesa, I can no longer say it is a suburb of Phoenix, for it is now
the third largest city in Arizona, it is just east of Phoenix. To get from
Phoenix to Flagstaff, you can take Route 17 and fly to Flagstaff with all
the trucks, or take the route through Sedona, and enjoy the scenic sights
and stay in Sedona. I do not remember the exact mileage, but it is not
either close, or further than a one day's drive. Since I have not driven for
more than six years, I suggest you get the mileage from a triple A, or from
the computer. 
The president of NFB is located in Tucson. His name is Bob Kressmer.
Recently the e-mails have been restricted, but next time I get one, I will
try to forward it. If that does not work, I will copy and paste  it to you.
Just remember, Arizona is not a deeply popular state at the moment, with its
legislative promotions of wide open gun rights, its anti-immigration stance
with Joe Arpaio at the helm, and the red-neck bias in politics, and on and
on.
If I were younger, and more able I would move to Oregon which is a
bell-weather state and progressive in nature.
Welcome, anyway.
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:06 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] Not Choice but Destiny, a sestina, per Lynda

Jacquilne, Two things: First, no your opinion was not immediately clear.
The reader has to think to understand... which is good. Especially with a
subject like this as so often people are predisposed to a set opinion of
their own without consideration of anything. Thinking may be the only way
to get into their minds. So if your poem could touch and possibly influence
even one person then that would be a wonderful thing. Well done.   Second,
you live in Arizona? Is Mesa anywhere near Sedona? I am not great with
geography. I have been trying to get a hold of the state president with no
luck. Want to make contacts as I am hopefully making the move in little
more than a month. Would be great if we are close. Namaste, Eve

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jacqueline Williams
<jackieleepoet at cox.net>wrote:

> Lynda,
> I will attach my one and only sestina again. I started with a theme in my
> mind. I am not sure I picked the words first. I think I did after
following
> some suggestions in the Writer Magazine, on how to choose words.
> It is perhaps a timely poem right now since gay and lesbian marriages  are
> a
> national issue. It is also a reflection of my scientific bent in keeping
up
> with all things having to do with the influences on the human being,
> genetics, environment, etc. Also, I have at least five good friends who
are
> either homosexual, or have children who are, and the suffering this caused
> by not acknowledging their true natures. Also, the continued suffering
they
> experienced if they did come out took it out of the realm of choice, for
> me.
> I am not sure my belief has come through in an understandable way. My best
> friend's son, who is a well-known doctor, was the inspiration for this.
> Jackie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:08 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Lynda's Tips for Successful Sestinas
>
> Jackie,
> I do not remember a sestina that you contributed?
> How did I miss that?
> Can you send it to me?
> Sometimes I miss attachments so maybe that is what happened. I would have
> commented, I am sure, if I had read it. So sorry.
>
> Lynda
>
>
> Lynda Lambert
> 104 River Road
> Ellwood City, PA 16117
>
> 724 758 4979
>
> My Blog:  http://www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
> My Website:  http://lyndalambert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jacqueline Williams" <jackieleepoet at cox.net>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Lynda's Tips for Successful Sestinas
>
>
> > Lynda,
> > I have studied your tips and find it novel in a few respects, that is
not
> > exactly fitting the definition. While I am aware that it does not have
to
> > be
> > iambic or pentameter, it does seem to insist on a particular meter and
> > length in each line. In other words, one line may not have four meters
of
> > iambic, and the next three meters of trochaic.
> > I would like your comments on this as well as the other's poet's
> > understanding this quality of a sestina.
> > To me the challenge is not only making the line ending come out
> > contributing
> > to terrific content, but keeping a consistent pattern in the lines.
> > The sestina I submitted to this group had one comment, and it made me
> know
> > the message of the content did not at all come through. It somehow got
> > translated as having to do with my son dying, and had nothing to do with
> > him
> > at all. So I know I have much work to do.
> > However I would like clarification on the rules first.
> > Thanks, Jackie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:49 AM
> > To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> > Subject: [stylist] Lynda's Tips for Successful Sestinas
> >
> > I have attached a document with my tips for writing a good Sestina poem.
> > I
> > think it is an exciting form of poem and have written and had published
> > many
> > Sestinas.
> > Hope this helps you in your own journey.
> > Lynda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynda Lambert
> > 104 River Road
> > Ellwood City, PA 16117
> >
> > 724 758 4979
> >
> > My Blog:  http://www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
> > My Website:  http://lyndalambert.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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